THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION: Big Business Pushing for a Single Unified North American Regulatory Regime

THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION: Big Business Pushing for a Single Unified North American Regulatory Regime

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The proposed Canada-U.S. trade and security perimeter agreement supports the process of deregulation. This new bilateral undertaking is being sold as vital to the safety and prosperity of both countries. A North American security perimeter goes well beyond keeping the U.S. safe from any perceived threats. It is a means to secure trade, resources and corporate interests. Much like the whole deep integration agenda, regulatory harmonization is taking incremental steps with the goal of achieving a single unified North American regulatory regime.

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The Trilateral Commission has divided up the world into sections: The European Group , the Asian Group, and The North American Group. What does this mean: Our nation will no longer be a NATION we will loose our sovereignty and become a STATE along with CANADA AND MEXICO. So: there are no borders, there are no illegal immigrants. It is beyond horrible, beyond monstrous! America no longer America? There will be a new Constitution, a Parliament, and Judicial Offices established. Each country should remain SOVEREIGN NATIONS!

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reply to post by NWMA2012


im not from usa or the area, but perhaps it'll tie in with the nwo looking for one world currency.

or introduction of the amero


en.wikipedia.org...


ive always kind of thought the way world finances are it'd be a great stepping stone for one world currency

S & F


However, I do not look at this as being horrible, as I used to along with many other people a few years ago.

As you start to see more of the 'big' picture, you start to see how a NWO is not so bad after all ( I even have a thread on this NWO...Not such a bad idea in which you can see brought out many closeted NWO supporters...

Even as the OP mentioned the ramifications of the NAU and the NWO, there was no mention of something that didn't sound as close to world peace as you can possibly get.

I am aware of the wrong doings and lies that come from TPTB in trying to unify the world...In my opinion, this is done because too many people stand opposed against the notion of a NWO.

Originally posted by NWMA2012there are no borders, there are no illegal immigrants.

SERIOUSLY?! I fail to see a problem with that.

Originally posted by NWMA2012It is beyond horrible, beyond monstrous! America no longer America? There will be a new Constitution, a Parliament, and Judicial Offices established. Each country should remain SOVEREIGN NATIONS!

We're all humans on ONE planet. And we'll never get off this rock and evolve being divided into economic and warring factions the way we are now. I'm a proud American and consider myself patriotic. But above that I'm human and sometimes you gotta think big picture. America is GREAT, it's been the best country on the planet so far and I'm proud of that. Does that mean it can't get any better? Does it mean a better way, a better constitution, a better country can't exist or come into existence? No it doesn't. My father taught me one very important lesson growing up. And that is no matter how good you are. No matter how great you are. Not only can you fall. But there is and will always be someone or something better. Maybe not now, not tomorrow, not next year... But eventually there will be.

It's all a big psyops game folks. TPTB WANT us to remain separate warring nations. They want us to continue to see differences in each other. It's what gives them power and keeps them in control. They don't want us united in any way.

Originally posted by Terrormaster
They don't want us united in any way.

So why are they uniting us?

reply to post by Rockdisjoint


They aren't, that's just it... It's all psyops. They make it sound like a big conspiracy so we get up in arms about it and play right into their hands.

Originally posted by ButterCookie
I am aware of the wrong doings and lies that come from TPTB in trying to unify the world...In my opinion, this is done because too many people stand opposed against the notion of a NWO.

Oh really? I guess you are blind for today's power abuse by the TPTB. Do you realize that politicians, especially in the US, are led by lobbyist bribes? Financial regulations were abandoned because of the Wallst Lobby, look where that brought us. The Federal Reserve acts in the interest of a few rich elitist families, not in that of the American people. Not to speak of the Israeli lobby through AIPAC, which dictates foreign policy. The pharmaceutical lobby that ensures horrific diseases like cancer are not to be cured. Have I mention the oil corporations and the military industry? You are not really so naive to think that mankind is still dependent on this sticky black substance, now do you? They have the clean alternatives locked away in their saves and they will only be commercialized when the world runs out of oil.

You see, mankind has the ugly nature of being greedy. Some more than others, but it's part of most people's nature. TPTB are going to satisfy their desire for power, greed and dominance. That's why one united world will never work. Besides, we can't let go of border thinking: e.g. you are first a Texan, than an American, than a North-American, then a Westerner and then a citizen of the world. There would always be a struggle between us and them e.g. Americans vs Mexicans.

Originally posted by Terrormaster
reply to post by Rockdisjoint

 

They aren't, that's just it... It's all psyops. They make it sound like a big conspiracy so we get up in arms about it and play right into their hands.

Centralized power and control seems to work in their favor, why wouldn't they want that? It's a corporatist wet dream.

Originally posted by NWMA2012


The Trilateral Commission has divided up the world into sections: The European Group , the Asian Group, and The North American Group. What does this mean: Our nation will no longer be a NATION we will loose our sovereignty and become a STATE along with CANADA AND MEXICO. So: there are no borders, there are no illegal immigrants. It is beyond horrible, beyond monstrous! America no longer America? There will be a new Constitution, a Parliament, and Judicial Offices established. Each country should remain SOVEREIGN NATIONS!

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No illegal immigrants, how is that horrible? That works both ways, you can freely work where you want and live where you want.

Your also forgetting the Middle Eastern union.

If you also look inside those "unions" there is more "unions", EU has unions within it "Nordic Union" comes to mind.

Why are American's so against being able to freely move about? On one hand they demend to control the world and be awesome on the other, don't anybody dare go there as it is THEIRS and you cannot immigrate there.

I can see why high power people say that America is the problem to a new world.

It is and it is being delt with.

What is it with American's that they just cannot get along and be equals in a one world?

Personally I would LOVE to see the END of America, the world has had enough of them.

Huff puf greeed profit greeed huff puff.

Let's not pretend to be surprised. Although the Supreme Court gave businesses full personhood status and more rights than an individual (as they now have rights without responsibilities like actual humans), corporations have no national allegiance. If big business thought its profits would increase by China annexing the U.S., it'd be for it in a heart beat.

Originally posted by Rockdisjoint


So why are they uniting us?

Because bigger groups are easier to divide politically. Its easier to make sure government can ignore the wishes of the people the larger the "unit" is, (from family, to tribe, to city/state, to nation/state, to big trade unions.)

The larger the group, the harder it is to reach consensus and organize to take action. The more likely it is that people within the group will have conflicting interests and desires, and thus the easier it is to play them off each other and in essence, ignore them all with propaganda and trickery.

Ie;

"Well yes we know that YOU wanted this, but look at this poll. You were outvoted by such and such a margin by the other guys. Dont hate us, hate them."

A move to one world government is a horrible idea. It ensures that the people will have no voice.

Originally posted by Terrormaster
reply to post by Rockdisjoint

 

They aren't, that's just it... It's all psyops. They make it sound like a big conspiracy so we get up in arms about it and play right into their hands.

We could state that being indoctrinated to think it's a good thing is a psyops in itself. They absolutely loathe individuality and separatism.

Originally posted by Mdv2

Originally posted by ButterCookie
I am aware of the wrong doings and lies that come from TPTB in trying to unify the world...In my opinion, this is done because too many people stand opposed against the notion of a NWO.

Oh really? I guess you are blind for today's power abuse by the TPTB. Do you realize that politicians, especially in the US, are led by lobbyist bribes? Financial regulations were abandoned because of the Wallst Lobby, look where that brought us. The Federal Reserve acts in the interest of a few rich elitist families, not in that of the American people. Not to speak of the Israeli lobby through AIPAC, which dictates foreign policy. The pharmaceutical lobby that ensures horrific diseases like cancer are not to be cured. Have I mention the oil corporations and the military industry? You are not really so naive to think that mankind is still dependent on this sticky black substance, now do you? They have the clean alternatives locked away in their saves and they will only be commercialized when the world runs out of oil.

You see, mankind has the ugly nature of being greedy. Some more than others, but it's part of most people's nature. TPTB are going to satisfy their desire for power, greed and dominance. That's why one united world will never work. Besides, we can't let go of border thinking: e.g. you are first a Texan, than an American, than a North-American, then a Westerner and then a citizen of the world. There would always be a struggle between us and them e.g. Americans vs Mexicans.

edit on 18-5-2011 by Mdv2 because: (no reason given)

I don't think that anyone would mind a unified world. But one held by big business and the big banks, as well as the eugenics nuts, does not seem the way to go.
A totalitarian,Orwellian regime would never give anyone freedom. Give tptb a chance and everyone not in the top 5% is slated into sheeple slavery to our own demise if we let it happen.
There is a better way where everyone becomes accountable and puts every being on this planet on a level playing field.
Then we could concentrate on being a positive, forward thinking race achieving a type 2/3 society.

Originally posted by ionsoul

I don't think that anyone would mind a unified world. But one held by big business and the big banks, as well as the eugenics nuts, does not seem the way to go.

I think a lot of the people who think a "NWO" or one unified world government is good, dont really see that they are not unifying themselves with us, but against us. Corporations and bankers and other driving forces are not making things into "Oneness." But "twoness." Them, against us. They are just setting it up so that they are a small cohesive group (who can reach consensus and organize to action easily) against a very large divisive group who cannot reach consensus and organize to action easily.

They are also consolidating the worlds resources and power into THEIR hands, not "the worlds hands" and also the media outlets and all communications and even military forces.

It really should be very clear to anyone looking at the issue, that this "twoness" is very lopsided, and isnt likely to work out well for "the people."

Calling what is "two" "one" is just a marketing trick. Their goal isnt, and never will be, oneness. "Uniting" us in powerlessness, poverty, and helplessness is NOT in our best interests.

I think the first thing we have to consider when discussing this topic is who benefits from consolidated governance and revenue control.

I can't deny that in a "Star Trek" world, where "money" does not exist, and global governance operates in the context of a universe of possibilities and potential, the idea is solid and attractive.

However, our world differs dramatically from that ideal.

First, we have developed a 'ruling class' of citizen whose ranks are replete with self-appointed elites and those who are prosperous enough to buy their way in. The bulk of their machinations are oriented towards protecting their position and posterity; seizing the means and force to secure their concept of control, that it may continue unchallenged. For some of these global leaders, the idea revolves around whatever 'doctrine' of the future they consider most beneficial to everyone in their social circle. For others the drive comes from heavy indoctrination by those they have learned never to question. For others it is about vainglorious celebrity and status. For the infinitesimal minority it may be about such concepts as 'humanity' and 'freedom' which the majority view as a means to move public opinion using farce and theater to effect.

Second, we have an entrenched cabal of cartels and combines who whole-heartedly embrace global economic domination as their objective. These have used the prestige of the economic relevance of their enterprise to make certain that they are included among the plans of the first group as inescapable. Monetary religion proselytized by economic priesthood, confidence-based games of chance, and the apparent elevation of corporate status to statehood, have brought them to appear 'married' to the first group - such has been their success.

Third, we have lost our ability to trust a vital institution which seems increasingly to exist only in name, "The Press." The media group is central to the needs and plans of the first two groups, they ride on the coattails of the first two groups to secure their never ending status as 'the eyes, ears, and voice" of the people, who are daily subject to a barrage of misinformation, and bread and circuses.

Assume if you will, if only for a moment, that these three groups represent what will become the 'stewards' of a world government.

Do you think you will have a voice?
Do you expect that anyone responsible for the well-being of billions will have any real idea what it means to be subject to their rule?
Do you expect your nation's values to "reign supreme" over whatever new social paradigm becomes dominant?
Do you expect to be respected as a human being who's life has value?

Or is it more likely that you will be told what 'your voice' says?
Do you think living in a rarefied atmosphere of elite leadership might detach future leaders from being able to relate to the 'common' populace?
Isn't it possible that those things we think are self-evident, such as personal rights and freedoms will be superseded in the name of expedience for governance and control?
Doesn't it seem probable that the 'common people' will be evaluated in the context of governance, as resources (human resources?) to be plugged into actuarial tables and models which will determine exactly what you are 'entitled' to?

I shouldn't forget, that there is an elusive and nebulous group that may exist. One that is the architect of the 'new' order. If such a group doesn't exist, the peril remains the same. If it does, it's worse... because the fact that they remain hidden demonstrates the nature of their relationship to you and I, the common citizens. We don't matter enough even to tolerate confrontation or inquiry....

New World Order, Global governance, and all such concepts appear to be a direction which will ensure the prosperity of the first three (or four) groups. Meanwhile those of us who have come to admire self-governance, personal sovereignty, and perhaps most importantly "the pursuit of happiness" are not in that equation.

When a global governance scheme is presented which is based upon the principles of equality for living human beings, I will be more inclined to hope that it can be a good thing. Right now it is simply another construct - like money - where the true benefactors are the few thousand (perhaps hundreds) people who control this world.

reply to post by Maxmars


i think this bit of anti-obama stuff, actually explains why removing alpha type personalities from society is a bad thing. listen very carefully to what he's saying

(ignore his anti-obama stuff, and just listen to the rest of it)

if you see nothing wrong with this than my friend your decisions are based on information that paints less than the whole picture.

this is indeed in the interest of profits and not for the benefit of anyone but a few rich families.

the US government is way too big the way it is, we don't need an even bigger, all encompassing one. that is nothing but corruption.


i do see tho, how some people believe a pure "one world government" is actually in our best interest. i would say you are correct if and only if it is full of pure, honest, positive intentions. but factor in the elitist human element and ours is not at all and never will be

Originally posted by pjp14

i do see tho, how some people believe a pure "one world government" is actually in our best interest. i would say you are correct if and only if it is full of pure, honest, positive intentions. but factor in the elitist human element and ours is not at all and never will be

Its spillover from the spiritual idea of "oneness" as I see it. Without any cold, hard, rational looking to see if what is being called "one world government" actually has anything at all to do with their fantasies of "oneness."

And it doesnt. Its not even really oneness. The problem with people is that they do not like long complicated puzzles. They like short easy slogans. This allows all sorts of double speak to fly under the radar.

personally, i'm not even sure the big money people are the
ultimate problem in all this.