Israeli forces have fired on protesters at borders of Palestinian Territories, Syria, and Lebanon

reply to post by babybunnies


Here come the tanks, probably to be followed by jets and shelling, as we have seen before.

Shooting unarmed protesters is just sad, let alone tanks

Press tv

Wow the Jew haters on this site. You guys are completely disgusting. These very people faced annihilation less than a hundred years ago. Complain that they removed people from their homes. The very people you morons are defending are killing each other and anyone else they can get access to.

These people kill themselves in violent acts every day.

Originally posted by Shaiker
Wow the Jew haters on this site. You guys are completely disgusting. These very people faced annihilation less than a hundred years ago. Complain that they removed people from their homes. The very people you morons are defending are killing each other and anyone else they can get access to.

These people kill themselves in violent acts every day.

Ahhh... the holocaust references. Last I checked, Arabs had NOTHING to do with the holocaust.

The Israelis have violated god knows how many mandates but we back them. They continually push their borders out but we back them. They have been involved with espionage against the United States but we back them. They have admittedly bombed barracks and buildings around the world posing as Arabs and we turn a blind eye. They attack a US flagged ship in international waters, and we ignore it and continue to back them. They falsify information to get us to fight their wars for them, and we do it. They kill a US citizen in cold blood in international waters and we back them. We give them billions of dollars a year, not to mention free military weaponry (ie: F22's).

Can you please show me one thing we get from Israel? How does our relationship with them benefit the US one single bit? Please honestly, explain it to me. Because I'm confused.

And before you even begin. No, I am not a jew hater. But I do abosfrickinlutely HATE Israel.

reply to post by DerekJR321


Read your history , the Arabs were aligned with Hitler and provided many operations for him. In fact the leader of Palestine during ww2 number one man in intelligence was an SS officer.

Originally posted by Shaiker
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Read your history , the Arabs were aligned with Hitler and provided many operations for him. In fact the leader of Palestine during ww2 number one man in intelligence was an SS officer.

Read YOUR history. More JEWS helped the SS than Arabs. And I'll leave that there.

The point I see is, why is it not ok for places like Libya to fire on protestors? Why do we enforce no fly zones there to protect the people? Are we going to do the same now if Israel starts killing more people? Of course not.

And it doesn't matter if the protesters are coming from elsewhere. Can you prove to me that every Libyan protester is from Libya?

Originally posted by DerekJR321

Originally posted by Shaiker
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Read your history , the Arabs were aligned with Hitler and provided many operations for him. In fact the leader of Palestine during ww2 number one man in intelligence was an SS officer.

Read YOUR history. More JEWS helped the SS than Arabs.

That sure is the truth, many helped make the selections of who would go to the camps and who wouldn't.

Very disturbing.

reply to post by DerekJR321


So we should not have any security on the mexican border to protect our citizens?
You should not lock your doors to protect your home from invasion
The difference between this and Libya is so clear yet you cant comprehend?

The people protesting and historically have endangered the lives of everyone in the world are threatening their citizen safety.

I wouldn't be opposed of Israel just breaking out the nukes and annihilating these people because they are detrimental to a free peaceful society.

Originally posted by Shaiker
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So we should not have any security on the mexican border to protect our citizens?
You should not lock your doors to protect your home from invasion
The difference between this and Libya is so clear yet you cant comprehend?

The people protesting and historically have endangered the lives of everyone in the world are threatening their citizen safety.

I wouldn't be opposed of Israel just breaking out the nukes and annihilating these people because they are detrimental to a free peaceful society.

Well... I'll address your response one by one.

1) We don't have very much security on the Mexican border. They cross into our country every day practically unimpeded. There was also a recent story about how the DEA actually supplied guns to people in Mexico. The Mexican drug cartels are getting out of control. And we certainly DON'T do enough to protect our citizens from the dangers. Oh the government talks a big talk, saying they will get more Border patrols, or put up a fence. But they haven't. And they won't.

2) Of course I lock my doors from home invasion. The difference between that reference and what is going on is this. If I broke into YOUR house, kicked YOU out, does that give me the right to shoot you if you stand outside the window yelling and complaining?

3) I guess I don't comprehend because I see no difference. At least I see no difference in what we are being told. In Libya we were enforcing a no fly zone because they were dropping bombs and attacking protesters with their Air Force. We said it was our job to protect the people. Israel has constantly fired on anyone in Gaza, men, women and children. If you live in Gaza you better pray your not an 11 year old girl with a backpack. You will be systematically assassinated. But fear not, because the person assassinating you will get a medal and a commendation. In my eyes I see no difference in protecting the people. Gaza itself is an isolated prison. What the Israelis are doing there is no better than what the Nazi's did. Your so quick to bring up the Holocaust, can you not see that? Gaza is one big concentration camp.

4) So, what your saying is, it is the protesters fault for getting killed because they were protesting? I guess that shouldn't surprise me based on your last statement.

5) Just remember if Israel "broke out the Nukes" the other countries who have em would too. What you propose is nothing short of a Nuclear holocaust. Aside from Syria and Egypt trying to take back land that Israel illegally occupied, that's the only time I've really seen any aggression by an Arab nation against Israel. I'm not talking about suicide bombers or the Israeli made Hamas firing model rockets across the way and taking out someones mailbox. I'm talking about Military on Military. I can't say the same for Israel. They have been the aggressors in so many things since Israel was formed. And all I ever hear is "they have a right to defend themselves". Don't the Palestinians have a right to PROTEST the FACT that Israelis on a daily basis destroy their crops, destroy their source of irrigation, take over their homes, kidnap citizens, shoot people for no reason???

I think so. The only thing I really need to say is three words. Three words can sum up pretty much everything I am trying to convey.

OPERATION CAST LEAD

Thank you and goodnight.

reply to post by DerekJR321

Yes Palestinians do have the right to protests. If they want change they can believe in they can start by electing someone without terrorist ideals. Wait that would mean they could not elect anyone there because they all follow a faith that believes Jew should be obliterated. This ideal surfaced long before Israel was settled again.Think it had something to do with a pedophile named muhammed

Originally posted by Shaiker
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Yes Palestinians do have the right to protests. If they want change they can believe in they can start by electing someone without terrorist ideals. Wait that would mean they could not elect anyone there because they all follow a faith that believes Jew should be obliterated. This ideal surfaced long before Israel was settled again.Think it had something to do with a pedophile named muhammed

Nobody in power in Israel at this time could be considered better than ANY terrorist. They might believe that Jews should be obliterated. I'm sure many Arabs don't like Israel for the things they have done. Jews believe they are the chosen people. That they are better than any "goyims". We are only put on this earth to be their servants, their slaves. Gee.. that kind of sounds familiar. Sounds kind of like the whole "Master Race" idea. Interesting.

Lets tell a little story shall we?

Lets say you live in a certain area that is 20 acres. A bunch of people come and decide that your land is their land. So they take you and squeeze you into 10 acres. A few years later they decide you have too much land and so they squeeze you down to 5 acres and keep the remaining 15.

The world complains about this. But you know, those people who took your land, they just don't care. A few years go by again and now they decide, hell... you only deserve 1 acre. And they take the remaining 19 for themselves.

Then they decide, that you living on that 1 acre, well your a threat. So they surround you on that acre of land and block any incoming goods in the name of security. No food, or medicine. Nothing. Because its too dangerous. So you do what you can to get by on that 1 acre. You start planting crops and growing food. But the people don't like that, so every few days they come by and destroy your crops. Occasionally, people living on what used to be your land, come into your remaining acre and decide certain things you have belong to them. So they are just going to take it. And if you complain, they will have their military come over and take care of you.

Now your getting mad so you stand up for yourself, only to get slapped down because how dare you protest. Those people were generous enough to give you 1 acre. The world complains again but the people who took your land, they say everything is fine. They have a RIGHT to have your land and if you complain, they have a right to kill you.

63 years go by. 63 years of you living on this one little acre. The people living on your land decide to hold a big celebration, patting themselves on the back for stealing your land. This makes you angry so you decide to protest. Other people who are your friends, they come from neighboring land. Well, the people who took your land don't like this, so they shoot and kill them before they even get to your property. Thats right, they kill them on THEIR land. Then they start shooting at you.

Because how dare you protest against a criminal stealing your stuff.

Like it or not, they elected Hamas. Who's business is it? Theirs. Not yours, not Americas, not Israels. We don't get to decide who gets elected in other countries. I'm sure certain countries in the world don't like the fact that Obama got elected. But thats life. And life goes on. You can either work to solve your issues, or put up a false front and go on killing and pillaging. And that is exactly what Israel does.

Originally posted by Shaiker
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Yes Palestinians do have the right to protests. If they want change they can believe in they can start by electing someone without terrorist ideals. Wait that would mean they could not elect anyone there because they all follow a faith that believes Jew should be obliterated. This ideal surfaced long before Israel was settled again.Think it had something to do with a pedophile named muhammed

Me thinks you and Israel need to look in a mirror before calling out others..

Oh, and wanting Israel gone or zionists gone does NOT equate to wanting all Jews gone..
That's a BS card overplayed nearly as much as the holocaust card...

Originally posted by Shaiker
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Yes Palestinians do have the right to protests. If they want change they can believe in they can start by electing someone without terrorist ideals. Wait that would mean they could not elect anyone there because they all follow a faith that believes Jew should be obliterated. This ideal surfaced long before Israel was settled again.Think it had something to do with a pedophile named muhammed

That would exclude all Israeli Politicians from being able to be elected!



There the terrorists.

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Perhaps re-settling Israel when the land was inhabited by people with diametrically opposed ideals wasn't the wisest thing. Though there's nothing we can do about that now. A majority of israelis and palestinians support a two-state solution, but the first step in that direction is obviously Israel returning land that was taken during the six day war. Regardless of what incited the conflict, Israels management of the territories since clearly conflicts with main clauses of the Geneva Convention. Regularly the international community discusses the matter, and regularly the US and Israel and a handful of other countries are the only ones in the world in favor of how things are being handled.

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and regularly the US and Israel and a handful of other countries are the only ones in the world in favor of how things are being handled.

I disagree..
The US and other countries do not favor Israel..
Only their corrupt, duel citizen leaders...

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As an informed american citizen against the way Israel has handled the occupied territories, I desperately wish that was true. I feel like the majority of americans aren't too informed on the issues and tend to support our government, especially when it comes to the military, with a bit of blind faith.

Israel is like a tumor in Middle East.

As this tumor spreads, the more death and destruction takes place.

These zionists are not going to return the Palestinian lands anytime soon as they believe they are the true owners of the lands from Nile to Eupharates.

The reason why israel is a 'scientific' 'thriving' nation is because it leeches of US and doesn't return anything back to the American tax payers. US will eventually financialy blow up as it's already under $15Tril debt while most of the gold and wealth is being transffered to israel thanks to loyal zionist pals like Ben Bernanke. Money didn't just dissapear into thin air in FD, it was all transffered. Soon Americans will realize how close they are to israel.

I think this is very disturbing...

I think of all the poor people on both sides of the fence being played off against each other by a few psychotic deviants and it makes my blood boil....

Semites unite!!

May the God of Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael and Jacob make Jerusalem truly the city of peace!

Originally posted by Shaiker
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Yes Palestinians do have the right to protests. If they want change they can believe in they can start by electing someone without terrorist ideals. Wait that would mean they could not elect anyone there because they all follow a faith that believes Jew should be obliterated. This ideal surfaced long before Israel was settled again.Think it had something to do with a pedophile named muhammed

Now you have real jews and then you have fake jews better knows as ashkenazi-jews. Also the zionistic movment who are to blame for so much problems half would be enough by far. pedophiles you say Well lets hav a look att who is infact such thing shall we.




And lets see who are the real nazi shall we




Take your BS and just...

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Our citizens? IT IS NOT YOUR STATE! if you wanna protect your citizents&state? the you will have to go back to russia.

Back on topic......

This is obviously an outrage...NATO should be condemning this...Israel just murdered protesters the same thing they accused Ghadaffi of doing and they're bombing him now. I just don't get why Israel gets a double standard every time.

Imagine if this had happened in Iran, the US media would be all over it by now accusing Ahmadinejad of genocide.