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Comet Elenin Smoking Gun? White House Letter Addresses Potential "Impending Asteroid Collision with

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posted on May, 14 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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wondering....

I'm finding lots of people claiming this thing is going to be huge, changing trajectory, slamming into us, lalala - then I'm inding lots of people who are saying it doesn't even exist, that amateur astrologers can't find it at the supposed coordinates that NASA says its at....

brown dwarf? conspiracy? head spinning?

any thoughts? anyone?



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by noordmo

Comet Elenin Smoking Gun? White House Letter Addresses Potential "Impending Asteroid Collision with Earth"


beforeitsnews.com

John Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, or OSTP, outlines plans for "(A) protecting the United States from a near-Earth object that is expected to collide with Earth."
(visit the link for the full news article)


Where is the smoking gun? This problem is known for a years.

Also is there any seriousness behind claim that "comet is the reason for the earthquakes"?



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 06:30 PM
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I'm finding lots of people claiming this thing is going to be huge, changing trajectory, slamming into us, lalala - then I'm inding lots of people who are saying it doesn't even exist, that amateur astrologers can't find it at the supposed coordinates that NASA says its at....

brown dwarf? conspiracy? head spinning?

any thoughts? anyone?


A lot of people are claiming a lot of ridiculous things. It is not behaving in a way that is at all unusual for a comet. If you don't trust NASA, you can check with Aerith.net, which post the latest photographs and observations from amateur and professional astronomers all over the world:

www.aerith.net...

Incidentally, please do not confuse astrologers with astronomers. Astronomers actually observe and study the sky. Astrologers make predictions based upon the movements of the planets. They can charitably be described as "artists." The comet is a comet. A brown dwarf would be clearly visible to the naked eye. Conspiracy, yes, but not on the part of the scientific community.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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if you ask me i think our creator isnt gona let that happen we have made it this far ehhhh. i can see it geting worst but i dont think they and when i mean they i mean gods aliens the people in the earth the people in higher dimensions just to name a few wont let that happen. know what i mean? i think we mean alot to some other beings who for all we know have been protecting us from being extinct this whole time.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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I think what the people claiming it doesnt exist are saying is that NASA is setting us up to use it as an excuse for global problems - I can't really believe this since there's no proof and plenty of naysayers that solar/galactic events have anything to do with earthquakes - there's plenty of earthquakes every day that exclude solar/galactic activity

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You're absolutely right, that was my mistake - I did mean astronomers - and after I asked the question here, I did find plenty of pictures of Elenin - apparently I was looking at old data where people said it didn't exist
so I will withdraw that question



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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It really does fit with the niberu story but maybe I only saw manipulated stories of it.
But that thing seems to move really fast compared to us, so life on it...maybe it's because i'm not a scientist, but I don't think it's possible.

I'll look at the sky if possible that evening



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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So this article came out Jan 30, 1983, and on March 23, 1983, Ronald Reagan gave his "Star Wars" speech... Star Wars Speech 3/23/83



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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We will not have a single collision with a comet!
We will have multiple collisions, a massive meteorite shower when we pass through Elenin/Nibirus tail. This is why the elites have their bunkers completed, why the seed banks exist and why all the misinformation and disinfo agents regularly appear on sites such as these. Highly intelligent individuals who have nothing better to do with their time but constantly reappear to disinform those trying to find answers.
Answers that could be the difference between life and death.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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We will not have a single collision with a comet!
We will have multiple collisions, a massive meteorite shower when we pass through Elenin/Nibirus tail. This is why the elites have their bunkers completed, why the seed banks exist and why all the misinformation and disinfo agents regularly appear on sites such as these. Highly intelligent individuals who have nothing better to do with their time but constantly reappear to disinform those trying to find answers.
Answers that could be the difference between life and death.


Why? Because you say so? Because you saw it on a YouTube video with scary music? Because you read it on the webpage of a faith healer who has a Bible Prophecy book he wants to sell you? Nibiru did not arrive in 2003; it will not arrive this year either.
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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 09:05 AM
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people are entitled to their beliefs, regardless of how scary or not scary the music on youtube is - its best to oppose people in a well thought out, intelligent manner - insults never taught anyone anything

I dont believe in nibiru either - but really these 2 comets coming close together is going to be unpredictable - people tend to fear the unknown

Honestly though, I think its suspicious ... I can't imagine all the contractors are lying about underground bunkers - if only 1 of them is telling the truth thats a lot of millions being spent on a maybe



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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How do comets cause earthquakes?



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by 547000
How do comets cause earthquakes?


I believe for them to do so, they have to actually hit the planet
not sure how their bunkers will help them in the event of an earthquake since both are underground though... hmm....
edit on 15-5-2011 by Forevever because: the gov sucks



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:00 AM
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people are entitled to their beliefs, regardless of how scary or not scary the music on youtube is - its best to oppose people in a well thought out, intelligent manner - insults never taught anyone anything


I agree, that's why I have pointed out countless times that any body massive enough to cause the tectonic plates to shift would wreak havoc with the ocean's tides. I have pointed out that the Sun's electromagnetic field is so massive that not even Jupiter's seems to have much effect on it. I have pointed out that earthquakes are daily events, so naturally you can find some sort of earthquake for any random celestial event. I have shown how the fear mongers have deliberately lied and twisted the truth. Take a look:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...


I dont believe in nibiru either - but really these 2 comets coming close together is going to be unpredictable - people tend to fear the unknown


There are uncounted thousands of comets drifting through the solar system at all times. There is absolutely nothing unusual about two of them being visible around the same time. They are just dirty snowballs. People who fear the unknown need to learn more about the world around them, that way they will have less to fear.


Honestly though, I think its suspicious ... I can't imagine all the contractors are lying about underground bunkers - if only 1 of them is telling the truth thats a lot of millions being spent on a maybe


You yourself said that people fear the unknown. The sad fact is that there are a lot of ignorant rich people.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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You yourself said that people fear the unknown. The sad fact is that there are a lot of ignorant rich people.


you got me, can't argue with any of that! and thank you for your well thought out post

I also been saying that astrological events do not cause earthquakes in another thread
no one seems to want to hear that.... in spite of evidence I provided

as far as comets hitting the earth... it could happen any second by a comet we can't even see yet - and no one seems to grasp really how far 22 million miles is (I think thats what I read is the closest Elenin will be)

still, you can't deny we got plenty to fear in the terms of the unknown, we just can't let it dominate our lives

someone (possibly on this forum) once said "Have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out"



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Would this coincide with the apparent story that Christ will return on May 21st?

After reading some news that says 'Templars say Christ has returned and will reveal himself on May 21st'. They also say something quite revealing. 'All will see him in the sky through the clouds coming down from heaven'.

Now if you think at to what Jesus actually is which is the personification of a star that makes sense. A Star or Comet will come down to Earth on May 21st and everyone will see it coming through the clouds.

Yikes!!



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:24 AM
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Some have been saying these comets, asteroids... are creating earthquakes and that's why the bunkers are being built for the elite. Why would you try to hide UNDERground during a massive earthquake? I would much rather be out in the open and not facing the possibility of having to dig through megatons of debris to get out. I know NORAD is built on giant springs to absorb the shock of a close strike. These are supposed to be earth changing quakes and those bunkers would have to be built on a MASSIVE scale to withstand what's supposedly coming and probably still wouldn't make it.
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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by stevcolx
Would this coincide with the apparent story that Christ will return on May 21st?

After reading some news that says 'Templars say Christ has returned and will reveal himself on May 21st'. They also say something quite revealing. 'All will see him in the sky through the clouds coming down from heaven'.

Now if you think at to what Jesus actually is which is the personification of a star that makes sense. A Star or Comet will come down to Earth on May 21st and everyone will see it coming through the clouds.

Yikes!!


LOL the rapture
doesnt matter to me, I'm going to hell anyway
if it comes in the form of a blue beam - don't go!!!!! just in case..

I don't think Elenin is scheduled to be anywhere near us till November (someone can correct me if I'm wrong)

Just for the record though, taking your question a little more seriously - its highly unlikely since these people also predicted the rapture in 1994 - if 500 million people go missing (thats how many he claims) then we can look forward to October 21st as the date Elenin will likely slam into our planet (he said it'll be 6 months after the rapture the world ends)

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by stevcolx
Would this coincide with the apparent story that Christ will return on May 21st?


No! I'm here now god dammit!

IRM



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Actually we are missing the boat on the comet discussion. It is not likely the comet head is going to impact earth but what's in the tail of the comet that is going to impact earth. If we took it it straight on with the comet head then we would be finished. But from what I understand, a comet itself is a mass of rock and ice particles (I assume many of them quite large) that extend over a large area. We could get hit with something inside the comet.

If we did get hit with a rock from the comet then 5000 years from now the cave dwellers would say that we were hit by comet Elenin when in fact we were just hit by part of the comet. For the record books though (you know the plates of metal and cave walls) they would be right. We got smacked by Elenin.



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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Nope....you have a false mind's eye impression of what a comet really looks like.

The so-called "tail" isn't solid, nor a threat in any way. It is just the same very, very tenuous ethereal material as the coma....it is the coma, being spread out by the pressure of the Solar wind....the particles emanating from the Sun.

The coma, and tail, are so thin that on Earth they would be considered a very good vacuum .... it is difficult to create a "perfect" vacuum in laboratory conditions on Earth. The tail and coma are that thin, and pose no danger at all.



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