‘Climate Scientists’ Release Profane Video Bashing Deniers

I left the Church of Al Gore when I realized that politicians stood to make a buttload of money with carbon credits.
My suspicions were then validated when all the stories of fraud and lies began to surface in the scientific community.

Originally posted by mc_squared
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and easily debunkable but constantly rehashed simpleton memes to perpetually derail this conversation into anything BUT a scientific one.
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You are really going to use skeptical science, and the lies and "simpleton hoaxes" they try to shave down people's throat?... You might as well also link to "FakeClimate.org" I mean "realclimate.org" where Michael Mann, Jones, et all are directors and spew the same lies and BS...

Let's see some of the CLAIMS made by "skeptical science"...

Skeptic Argument vs What the Science Says
1 "Climate's changed before" Climate reacts to whatever forces it to change at the time; humans are now the dominant forcing.
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Wow...really? so humans are more powerful than nature, the Sun, the Solar System, and the entire galaxy?... Some people would call this having a "God-complex"...

Let's continue...

2 "It's the sun" In the last 35 years of global warming, sun and climate have been going in opposite directions

NOT...

Since the late 1970s, the amount of solar radiation the sun emits, during times of quiet sunspot activity, has increased by nearly .05 percent per decade, according to a NASA funded study.

"This trend is important because, if sustained over many decades, it could cause significant climate change," said Richard Willson, a researcher affiliated with NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Columbia University's Earth Institute, New York. He is the lead author of the study recently published in Geophysical Research Letters.
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In this study, Willson, who is also Principal Investigator of NASA's ACRIM experiments, compiled a TSI record of over 24 years by carefully piecing together the overlapping records. In order to construct a long-term dataset, he needed to bridge a two-year gap (1989 to 1991) between ACRIM1 and ACRIM2. Both the Nimbus7/ERB and ERBS measurements overlapped the ACRIM 'gap.' Using Nimbus7/ERB results produced a 0.05 percent per decade upward trend between solar minima, while ERBS results produced no trend. Until this study, the cause of this difference, and hence the validity of the TSI trend, was uncertain. Willson has identified specific errors in the ERBS data responsible for the difference. The accurate long-term dataset, therefore, shows a significant positive trend (.05 percent per decade) in TSI between the solar minima of solar cycles 21 to 23 (1978 to present). This major finding may help climatologists to distinguish between solar and man-made influences on climate.

NASA's ACRIMSAT/ACRIM3 experiment began in 2000 and will extend the long-term solar observations into the future for at least a five-year minimum mission.

www.nasa.gov...

Was the Sun's activity only increasing during the 24 year of research, from 1978-2002 mentioned above and only until the end of the research in 2002?... No...

Although not documented here, it is interesting to note that the overall level of magnetic disturbance from year to year has increased substantially from a low around 1900 Also, the level of mean yearly aa is now much higher so that a year of minimum magnetic disturbances now is typically more disturbed than years at maximum disturbance levels before 1900.

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www.ngdc.noaa.gov...

The increase in Solar magnetic storms do tells us that the Sun's activity had been increasing until at least the end of 2005-2006, which is the CONTRARY to what you and your idols claim...

Let's continue... Let's see what other LIES "skeptical science" is trying to sell... I guess they must have learnt from Mann, Jones, et al...

"It's not bad" Negative impacts of global warming on agriculture, health & environment far outweigh any positives.

According to whom?... History has shown us that first of all if the Earth would really continue to warm it would be beneficial, not negative to health, agriculture and the environment...

BTW, the claim that higher atmospheric CO2 levels are bad for the environment is also a LIE...

Successful indoor growers implement methods to increase CO2 concentrations in their enclosure. The typical outdoor air we breathe contains 0.03 - 0.045% (300 - 450 ppm) CO2. Research demonstrates that optimum growth and production for most plants occur between 1200 - 1500 ppm CO2. These optimum CO2 levels can boost plant metabolism, growth and yield by 25 - 60%.

www.planetnatural.com...

"It's cooling" The last decade 2000-2009 was the hottest on record.

Compared to what?... According to the GLOBAL record the Medieval Warm period and Roman Warm Periods were WARMER than now yet these were times when humans thrived. Also during the Medieval and Roman Warm periods atmospheric CO2 levels were LOWER than now yet it was warmer than now, so there is another source MORE powerful than mankind that causes warming...

5 "There is no consensus" 97% of climate experts agree humans are causing global warming.

Are we really going over this again?...

6 "Models are unreliable" Models successfully reproduce temperatures since 1900 globally, by land, in the air and the ocean.

The models that are unreliable are those that claim that the warming is caused by atmospheric CO2 because they don't take in consideration many natural factors that do affect the climate yet the anthropogenists claim it is all because of anthropogenic CO2 when there is no evidence for this...

EVERYTHING that website claims is nothing but LIES built upon LIES.

If I were to respond to every lie they make I would be here all night.

Abrupt Climate Changes have happened MANY times, and many have occurred a lot faster than the one we had been experiencing.

Originally published in Science Express on 19 June 2008
Science 1 August 2008:
Vol. 321. no. 5889, pp. 680 - 684
DOI: 10.1126/science.1157707
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The last two abrupt warmings at the onset of our present warm interglacial period, interrupted by the Younger Dryas cooling event, were investigated at high temporal resolution from the North Greenland Ice Core Project ice core. The deuterium excess, a proxy of Greenland precipitation moisture source, switched mode within 1 to 3 years over these transitions and initiated a more gradual change (over 50 years) of the Greenland air temperature, as recorded by stable water isotopes. The onsets of both abrupt Greenland warmings were slightly preceded by decreasing Greenland dust deposition, reflecting the wetting of Asian deserts. A northern shift of the Intertropical Convergence Zone could be the trigger of these abrupt shifts of Northern Hemisphere atmospheric circulation, resulting in changes of 2 to 4 kelvin in Greenland moisture source temperature from one year to the next.

www.sciencemag.org...

The global record SHOWS CLEARLY that the Medieval and Roman Warm Periods were WARMER than now, yet the NATURAL Climate Change deniers aka the AGW believers want to deny what hundreds, upon hundreds of research done over several decades actually say...

What the record shows us the temps that have occurred in East Asia.

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The Sargasso Sea Temps.

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Alaska/north America.

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What the real temperatures in Europe say contrary to the Hockey Stick lie, and Mann, Jones et al lies..

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Originally posted by Sparky63
I left the Church of Al Gore when I realized that politicians stood to make a buttload of money with carbon credits.
My suspicions were then validated when all the stories of fraud and lies began to surface in the scientific community.

And hey, have you noticed how the NATURAL Climate Change deniers aka AGW believers want to believe the governments, politicians, policy makers, jornalists, and scam scientists who were trying to push for a global government using the AGW scam, and are now claiming the scam artists like Mann, Jones et al did nothing wrong?...

The AGW scam was made to tax us more, and to push for a global government for global control with the excuse of "fighting Climate Change", and the same people who were pushing for this "global control" are the ones claiming the AGW scammers did nothing wrong...

Seriously, do we have to point out the stupidity of such a claim?

So I guess everybody missed the recent bit that the sun is going into a minimum and we are likely headed for an ice age? I don't like cold much, lets make a bit more co2 and see if it helps

Originally posted by Chett
So I guess everybody missed the recent bit that the sun is going into a minimum and we are likely headed for an ice age? I don't like cold much, lets make a bit more co2 and see if it helps

Hi Chett,

Back in the 70's when the scare de jour was global cooling, that's exactly what was proposed--pumping CO2 into the atmosphere to head off the next ice age.

The ice age will come when it comes and there's nothing we can do about it except adapt.

Originally posted by Chett
So I guess everybody missed the recent bit that the sun is going into a minimum and we are likely headed for an ice age? I don't like cold much, lets make a bit more co2 and see if it helps

I guess I'll have to stay under the covers and snuggle with the wife more. An ice age might not be that bad after all!
Maybe my Florida real estate will finally increase in value as all the Yankees head south.

One of the links I posted is broken. The one that shows magnetic disturbances in the Sun have been increasing until the end of 2005 or beginning of 2006. Here is the right link.

www.ngdc.noaa.gov...