"Terror" attacks and the United states of america ?

I have been watching and reading the latest events to unfold regarding the recent execution in pakistan, reading the reactions of patriotic americans, revelling in the blood of supposed revenge, the question i would like to discuss with the ats community is

WHY DO YOU THINK ISLAM IS TARGETING AMERICA.

Do people just wake up in the morning and say America must die, or do the middle east have a reason for the acts that they have been accused of, let us look at the reported death of bin laden , America have entered a foreign country with their military and executed a man who has always denied being involved with 9/11, no trial, how do American citizens think that these actions will sit with the rest of the world, especially the muslim community? what if he was innocent? how will we ever know?, how can justice be served without a fair trial?, we even afforded the nazi's a trial before they were convicted, if only to get some answers.

DO PEOPLE THINK THAT AMERICAS PAST FOREIGN POLICIES HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEIR CONFLICTS TODAY,

try and keep it civil and to the point please, this is not a usa hate thread

Originally posted by THELONIO
we even afforded the nazi's a trial before they were convicted, if only to get some answers.

The nazi's, being part of a militarized country and serving under the flag of Germany is the difference and they fall under the Geneva Convention. OBL, claims no country nor is he a soldier and does not fall within the guidelines of the Geneva Convention. Cannot compare apples and oranges. There is a distinction that has to be made here. The world is not black and white, and there are exceptions to every rule, whether we like it or not.

reply to post by Skewed


apples and oranges are both still fruit, i understand what you have said but America does still recognise the taliban and alcaida as a military group to declare war on, the taliban were ruling in afghanistan and were still seen for some reason as terrorists, anyone who joined the fight against the invasion were called insurgents or combatants but never recognised as possible freedom fighters, if you look at occupied france during ww2, how did the germans view the french resistance?, did they see them as freedom fighters or terrorists, compare that with the views of the allies, the resistance spent their time carrying out acts of terrorism against the occupying force

The answer is a unequivocal yes.

I know that I don’t have the ability to give you a full and brief history on the motivations of terrorists but there are many good books on the subject. however if we look at one specific case, Osama Bin Laden it does illustrate how American foreign policy does lead to acts of terrorism. In the case of OBL’s grievances against America, most of it comes from his ideology but a example of how American foreign policy enforced this would be the events of the first Gulf war. During the early 1990’s America became worried that oil supplies from Saudi Arabia would become compromised so sent troops into Saudi as a deterrent. This in turn angered OBL who took the view that infidel forces had no right to have a presence in the “Land of the two holly places” and that this was blasphemy. Not only did this move from the Americans cause OBL to become angry with America but also his native Saudi.

In addition to this we also have more general foreign policy that understandable angers many in the Middle East, primarily the support of Israel but also the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the use of torture and the lack of support for states like Iran. Past interventions like the coup in the 1950’s in Iran, presence in the Palestinian territories and also what they see as being a “westernisation” of some Arabic states such as Egypt and Dubai. The list when you think about it does become really quite extensive

reply to post by THELONIO


OBL had a family, wives to care for and kids to feed, but he was the enemy and he got what he got. Tough shi.....crap.

Last night, I tuned into this one radio talk show host who, even tho he's 'conservative', isn't a GOP shill. I enjoy him often, EXCEPT he is obsessed with fear-loathing-hatred for the Islamic boogiemen. He swallows wholesale, lock-stock-&-barrell, the "war on global terror" koolaid. Thus he gets on these shill rants for that. A shame. It is people like that who, once they achieve power positions in the US government, ARE THE ONES who bankrupt this country, with their unending "war on terror" "for as long as it takes" against the Islamist boogiemen, and they deem this 'priority' as so important, they say, Let everyone in the US drop dead of starvation for it. Every citizen must make sure to find out if any candidate, even ones running for local dogcatcher, hold this terrible destructive bankrupting ignorant dangerous murderous stance. And then NEVER vote for that character.
The US created the Taliban during the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan, anyway. Just ask Ted Bin Laden. If he isn't dead. (Which, lotsa luck finding out the reality of all that.)

reply to post by simone50m


The Taliban was not formed until 1994 by that time the CIA had long since left Afghanistan after the cold war. They did not have a hand in the formation of the Taliban.

Originally posted by kevinunknown
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The Taliban was not formed until 1994 by that time the CIA had long since left Afghanistan after the cold war. They did not have a hand in the formation of the Taliban.

John Rambo did have a hand in starting the taliban up though, he did it in Rambo 3.
Seriously though I reckon the CIA DID help form the Taliban to fight against the Russian's. They might have had another name. but,,,,, it was still the taliban and the CIA still started them.