'El Monstruo': The cartels have a tank

'El Monstruo': The cartels have a tank

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The Blog Del Narco reports that the tank was captured two weeks ago after a firefight outside Ciudad Mier in northern Mexico. The vehicle had a top speed of 68 mph, and could carry 12 people — but had no side shielding for its tires, which ultimately led to its end.

It's not the first time the drug cartels have turned to armored vehicles to augment their forces; this heavy-duty armored truck was captured last year. And Mexican officials have said they expect similar monsters are already lurking in the countryside.

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I just wanted to post this to remind Americans that they have problem lurking closer to home. Problems that may be far more threatening to them then terrorism, Libya and so forth.
I once had a firm belief that much of Mexico lived in sheer Anarchy, however now I would beg to differ... To me it seems that Mexican are living under an invisible dictatorship where the drug cartels reign using violence and fear.

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I am posting this to also remind people of a problem bigger than the mexican drug cartels...That the CIA funds, and supports these cartels. So I wonder where they got the tank?

you beat me to it. Interesting they have a few. Plus I heard through the grapevine they are buying old military hard ware from Ukraine/Russia so tanks and maybe some fighter jets in the future for the cartels. Remember they make more money than most governments of the planet. America is the #1 consumer of their product. They make more money than Mcdonalds/Burger king and every single pizza place in America combined.

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www.blogdelnarco.com...

Check out the new tank its on first or second page. They are getting more high tech, you have the old version. The new 2.0 version is real nice for a tank.

was it sold to the gangs
by our own atf

gun runner was the name
or fast five

fast and furious
our borders our crossed

with armed invading
drug dealers

guard the opium in a desert
thousands of leagues away

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The new tanks even have a cappacino machine in them.

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have the got the batmobile dudes building these tanks?

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Hey guys want to see some thing really cool. And what's up dude.

www.youtube.com...


Also the cartel in that video is actually admit-tingly trained by the CIA. They allegedly deserted the army of mexico 50 of them now they are up to a few thousand. But all trained by the CIA. Look at the tactics in the video. That is not a gang. That is a military black ops shoot out.

By the way the previous video was sponsored by Chevy.

So, you are comfortable with prohibition policy, just not all the people's reaction to it?

What the US does about prohibition is your preferrence, I assume. www.abovetopsecret.com...

The US has a major demand/market for the product. Mexicans are very enterprising people, they just have more of a "free-enterprise" system than the US does. The cartels appear to be more persistent to play their role in this than the Mexican government does for fighting the US's Drug War.

It would be nice for all this nonsense to stop. Maybe if you could convince the American people to "Just Say No" then all the cartels could play with their tanks and trucks more quietly.

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I'm not sure what exactly you are asking, but if it is on the lines of drug legalisation then I am all for it. I believe alot of these problems could be solved by legalizing drugs and ending this stupid 'war on drugs" in America.

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The Mexican people are some of the most hardworking enterprise people in the world. If Americans can fall prey to drug profiting, how can we even blame humans like us for doing the same thing. I agree with you. It's not a culture or race thing, it's a human thing. Besides taking drugs only causes violence when they are in a state of prohibition. That violence would never happen if you could just order it like normal products. No business person likes violence, but all business people will protect their interests.

Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
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I'm not sure what exactly you are asking, but if it is on the lines of drug legalisation then I am all for it. I believe alot of these problems could be solved by legalizing drugs and ending this stupid 'war on drugs" in America.

OK, we don't have to dance then. On these topics I see a lot of folks watch the fire being lit then turn up the A/C when it gets hot. Just makes me wonder what they're cooking.

Prohibition creates many agendas for many people.

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Trained by the CIA for what?

It should be no secret that the CIA is very utilitarian. The enemy of our enemy is not our friend - but can certainly be exploited as a valuable asset - especially where a direct confrontation is undesirable, politically.

Why try to train the peasantry to rise up and overthrow the government when you can convince an already existing paramilitary force that it's a good idea to try?

In either case - the drug cartels are becoming quite a problem. While I doubt the groups deeper in the country have many affiliations with the groups causing the problems near the border, they are an issue that needs to be addressed.

The real solution to the problem is to put a stop to demand for their product (coc aine). That's easier said than done... unless we legalize production and sale in the U.S. (Cocaine is a rather reasonable drug to outlaw, though - near-instant acute addiction of life-destroying madness) - they pretty much are guaranteed the corner market.

I'm also not sure if that grows too well in these latitudes - so it may be a moot point, anyway.

Never the less - these guys are well funded and ... while I wouldn't call those contraptions "tanks" - they are certainly armored vehicles. We're going to have to start equipping border patrol with LAW and Javelin anti-tank systems if things keep up like this.

Actually - forget that, just get it over with and Annex Mexico, crimp the problem closer to its source, and tell South America to get its house in order or we'll unleash a swarm or locusts, or something. Cracked-out locusts are menacing, no?

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Cocaine is non addictive. It's actually medical fact. I cnnot quit cigs no matter how hard I try. In my ollege years quitting coc aine was easy, I stopped. No withdrawels, or side effects. Cigs I cannot.

So yea coc aine is non addictive, even in freebase/crack form. It is no more addictive than a good time at a theme park. Sure people go to theme parks a ton, but we do not say they are addicted to the heart pumpin rides. That is all coc aine is a heart pumpin ride for adults.

Some people have issues, but those are the same mental midgets that would have issues with becoming addicted to anything.

Anyhow most illegal drugs besides heroin are not that addictive. Meth and Heroin are evil. Rest are just along for the ride.

CIgs are way more evil than most drugs out lawed. But the white man controls that money.

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So yea coc aine is non addictive, even in freebase/crack form. It is no more addictive than a good time at a theme park. Sure people go to theme parks a ton, but we do not say they are addicted to the heart pumpin rides. That is all coc aine is a heart pumpin ride for adults.

So - Yea - you're a bit out of touch with reality.

www.thegooddrugsguide.com... aine/addiction.htm

It's an orgasm in a line. You're full of it.

Some people have issues, but those are the same mental midgets that would have issues with becoming addicted to anything.

Look - I'm all for eugenics. If you can't handle it - you have no reason to burden other people with your pitiful existence.

Don't suddenly act like you care about them or about some system rights or law. I simply realize that it's to our mutual advantage to do our best to keep "mental midgets" from hurting themselves - as their bad and destructive addiction tends to fund some not-so-nice people - such as the drug cartels listed here.

Again - you can argue that legalizing production would solve problems, but it would really only redirect them. Ego-drugs like coc aine are very profitable and make their producers very powerful - people will do just about anything for their next hit once addicted and forget about everything else. That kind of destructive force interferes with a functional lifestyle and generally leads to an inherent abuse on behalf of the producers. It leads to "warlords" developing - just as we see in Mexico.

Opium may as well be legal throughout much of the middle east. The Taliban and many segments with in Al Queida are funded by the opium industry. Opiates are very similar in function to coc aine and have many of the same effects on lifestyles. We see war lords form around the production of "ego-drugs."

This even goes for Meth - while much more localized since production is diffuse among individuals - many of the crimes around here involving weapons are related to meth dealers and users - often over territorial issues. It's leading to the development of localized gangs and is going to become a severe law enforcement problem in the moderate future.

About the only one that isn't worth having outlawed is cannabis. Though I still don't understand why people choose to smoke it - about the most senseless way to exploit the chemistry of a plant. There are some other, more obscure or less-public drugs that are derivatives of '___' (such as "2CP" ) that really have a lack of sufficient research to tell what is going on - from a government perspective, I'd rather it be required that a drug be demonstrated harmful enough and enforceable enough to warrant outlawing than to take the opposing stance of requiring drugs to demonstrate themselves safe. From an ideological perspective, I don't understand the concept of people wanting to consume substances that alter their brain chemistry - and find it highly unnecessary, and even childish.

I fail to see a tank in this article/video.

In the video that was referenced, I see a scrap heap with spray paint on it, that may or may not have a hard turn-over on a cold morning.

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Sigh.. so you sound like an expert on drugs, I have tried all myself. And most of my friends have too. I can tell you it is not addictive, You have been brainwashed by the gov. Good job. On a funny note
www.slashfood.com... aine/

Sugar found to be more addictive than coc aine.

Fn Hershey has been pushing sugar on our kids all these years. What does your large vocab have to say about that. LOL

Looks like an APC, not a tank. And what's the deal on the cartels buying jets? Why? these guys are a business. They are about making money for the boss. Jets are expensive and get shot down if you don't know how to use them right, but if they are expanding from drugs to terrorism, maybe they want to use the drugs to buy jets to crash into some federal buildings or school buses in So Cal or something? Now that would constitute a good reason to "escalate" the war with the drug lords I guess. Very sinister CIA overtones here. Not.