How do you achieve apathy

Apathy (also called impassivity or perfunctoriness) is a state of indifference, or the suppression of emotions such as concern, excitement, motivation and passion. An apathetic individual has an absence of interest in or concern about emotional, social, or physical life.

- complete loss of feelings. What IF complete loss of feelings, emotions is the way we should live? Feelings are things that make everything worse, and... sometimes better. But look everywhere around you, look at world we live in, what do you think? What do you think prevails? Now, when you think about it, wouldn't it be great to lose all of it? It would make society so much better. Feelings are what puts us down. That is why there are wars, hate, people judge others, they are greedy, etc.

Lets look at movie Equilibrium for example, isn't the society much better than one now?



In my opinion, it was.

Now, how do we achieve apathy?

If we were truly apathetic we wouldn't care if we lived or died and would just never get out of bed and starve to death. If we could pick and choose our apathies, yeah, that'd be wonderful.

While I agree it would make society a lot better, wouldn't it better if there was some way to rid ourselves of all 'bad' emotions? Just a thought ofcourse

ehh who cares

Meditation can go along way, think long and hard, speak/act only rarely

Originally posted by David291
While I agree it would make society a lot better, wouldn't it better if there was some way to rid ourselves of all 'bad' emotions? Just a thought ofcourse

It would, I think a drug was developed not long ago that makes you forget bad memories. From what I remember. But there always will be new experiences, and not always good.
Regarding a drug that removes bad emotions, not yet, from what I know. Could come in handy

Play World of Warcraft...


... and then realize you have lost a few months of your life...


...but you get over it

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I suppose something a long those lines would be needed in the future, unless somehow humanity decides we can get a long no matter what. It would be great if that was the case but well, at the moment that looks quite impossible.

Calm down and smoke a joint. Society can only get worse never better. Without having feelings for things i think it would get much worse. Maybe when we are all brainwashed zombie cannibals feelings will become void.

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I can see your point to a certain degree, but without emotion thats part of our "individual" self we are giving up. True it's only a part of the ego but imagine art (or lack of, equilibrium was an awesome movie btw) and imagine the things people are passionate about that would never come around. I guess you can argue at what cost though?

I would imagine if the world were to lose the emotions that get us in trouble we would become much more self sustaining and concerned about our future.

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EpicMealTime ftw!

Originally posted by Bdizzl3
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I can see your point to a certain degree, but without emotion thats part of our "individual" self we are giving up. True it's only a part of the ego but imagine art (or lack of, equilibrium was an awesome movie btw) and imagine the things people are passionate about that would never come around. I guess you can argue at what cost though?

I would imagine if the world were to lose the emotions that get us in trouble we would become much more self sustaining and concerned about our future.

Our indivituality would indeed disappear, but what is art,music,etc. for? That all are just people's way of expressing their emotions. It isn't really good for anything IMO. It doesn't have a practical use. Why spend time doing something that is useless anyway?
If there was a society like in movie Equilibrium, people would be doing only what is necessary, what is useful for society, and not spend time doing things that are useless... you know, that would mean advancement.

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How do you achieve apathy

Believe that all things are exactly how they're supposed to be...

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Some people call it ego death. I like apathy. The term seems to describe it a lot better.

I get the feeling that the enlightened human being wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

Originally posted by Farnhold

Our indivituality would indeed disappear, but what is art,music,etc. for? That all are just people's way of expressing their emotions. It isn't really good for anything IMO. It doesn't have a practical use. Why spend time doing something that is useless anyway?
If there was a society like in movie Equilibrium, people would be doing only what is necessary, what is useful for society, and not spend time doing things that are useless... you know, that would mean advancement.

You should redo your avatar in grayscale. It doesn't accurately reflect your personality as it sits there right now with all that color, and stuff. Maybe you could use a scene shot from that movie The Road. With a lot of ash and dead trees and corpses. That'd probably be the ticket. Nice and vacant.

I agree that some level of disconnect is needed in the world today. I wouldn't necessarily call it apathy, though.

Sometimes becoming emotionally charged is draining to the spirit. Walking around too connected to the goings on in this world may lessen our abilities to grow in a spiritual and emotional sense.

No feeling love, happiness, peace, joy,pleasure?

I would be feeling pretty low, with out that....

Emotions are not the problem. They are there for a reason. Let them be. The trick is to accept your emotions for what they are but don't make decisions based on them. Just because something makes you happy doesn't mean it's good for you and vice versa with bad feelings. Emotions are just the sprinkles on your ice cream. Sometimes their good sometimes not so good, sometimes you get too much others not enough. The world we live in is the result of a lot of people making rash decisions based on their crazy egos and emotions.

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Our indivituality would indeed disappear, but what is art,music,etc. for? That all are just people's way of expressing their emotions. It isn't really good for anything IMO. It doesn't have a practical use. Why spend time doing something that is useless anyway?
If there was a society like in movie Equilibrium, people would be doing only what is necessary, what is useful for society, and not spend time doing things that are useless... you know, that would mean advancement.

I sort of think you're pulling our legs, but I'll play along.

Haven't seen Equilibrium, but the trailer made me think their society is rather dystopic, and far from what anyone would want.

By the way, art and music may help express emotions, but that's not all there is about them. Art, music, poetry...these things help us express and communicate our thoughts and feelings about greater realities that lie beyond merely eating and breathing and working.

In fact, a lot of "science" began as a kind of intuitive grasp of things that lay beyond what was seen. Those small glimmers of the reality beyond our senses often required a more comprehensive expression than spoken language could provide.

In a sense, "languages" had to be invented to express these other things. Mathematics. Music. For each, a language had to be developed to properly speak of the things involved.

You mention what is "useful" for society. We don't entirely know what that is! But history has apparently ruled that even things as "frivolous" as poetry, and artwork, are apparently "useful" in some way.

Reading between the lines, I see the suggestion of the "worker's utopia" as being desirable, and so much the more so if people could cancel their emotions somehow. Again, history has ruled that such fantasies are actually quite horrible when attempts are made to foist them upon people. Communism may be a nice idea in theory, but it's probably no coincidence that the past century offered up too many examples of utter failure when it came to implementation.

And that's exactly what we should expect to see. Since the notions of a noble "apathy", along with the stamping out of individuality, are completely out of tune with human nature, as we find it, with emotions, etc., such systems would all be doomed to failure.

Lastly, the notion of "advancement". To render the human race incapable of empathy, in pursuit of a utilitarian "apathy", would be so ridiculously dehumanizing, that any so-called "advancement" under such circumstances would become an absurdity. But, we would never get that far. With a foundation of sand, nothing could last very long at all.

Society can only be built based on humanity as it is, not as we might like it to be. "Goals" for societal advancement are fine, and could have obvious merit, but the foundation must be reality, not fantasy. We are not robots, and never will be.

JR

I recently came up with a new word for our pharmacy in San Diego. We no longer sell pharmaceuticals and only sell homeopatic/herbal/vitamin-mineral/flower essence remedies. We didn't want to be called a pharmacy and the word apothecary descend from the word apathy. To drug or suppress the emotions. I cam up with the word empothecary which is to help empower-embrace and support empathy. We trade marked the name under Arcana Empothecary.

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