Is God Glad Osama Bin Laden is Dead?

Well, not his God at least!

But really, for those of you who go to church what are you talking about when this subject comes up?
And the subject must come up, even if it is briefly.

I am agnostic but from what I have seen religions do through history, I would say your gods are happy he is dead!
But don't let me speak for you, tell me what you think. . .

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God, The Cosmic Oneness, The Great I AM, etc...

Does not care about our affairs. If God existed in the form that most believe... He is a Loving and All-Knowing God... why would he smile upon this?

Think about it... Especially you Xtians that respond.

Bin Laden is now God's personal Bacon Eating Butt Monkey...

Talk about your silly threads...

reply to post by AnteBellum


Actually I don't speculate on what God thinks.
I speculate more on who he is and if he is there.

All I know is that I would be glad when I don't have to sift through these b.s. Osama threads.

I am my own god. I don't care if Osama is dead or not. This man is irrelevant to my everyday life.

reply to post by illuminatitanimulli


I know I hate them also. It doesn't matter now whether he is dead or not or if there is proof or not.
There is never going to be closure to this because they tossed the body away.

But back to the thread, I just want to know how other religious minded people are thinking on this subject. It interests me in how religion deals with such topics for it has social implications that arise in all aspects of life.
Again, being agnostic I can't really trust my opinions for this because they are greatly biased given my subjective stance on religion as a whole.

Neither is god
happy nor
angry!
God
IS
!

reply to post by newcovenant


You legend.

Nice dog too

reply to post by AnteBellum


Dear AnteBellum,

I rarely attend church anymore; however, I am a Christian. You specifically asked what believers thought, so I will answer as a believer and not for all believers as our answers should be as varied as those of non-believers, we are not of one mind either.

I believe if one dies they go to a deeper reality unless they refuse to. I believe in free will. Everybody dies so it is not something to be feared, it is simply leaving here to go somewhere else. If we choose to be our own God, then we choose to be the only one in the universe. If we choose relationship then we go to be with others and God. If this is correct then why would he rejoice or be upset by any death? It is nature and everyone will die.

If the assumption is that Osama Bin Laden has a special place in hell or that God is happy that we are no longer bothered by him then why allow anyone who is imperfect to exist in the first place? People rejoiced that Bin Laden was killed because they believe he did evil and "he got what he deserved". That is a human response, revenge. Put another way, should we rejoice when someone gets what they deserve or when they turn from evil? Would people have been happier if Bin Laden had renounced terror and led his followers to give up their war?

Dear OP -

You do know that his god and your god are exactly the same god -- you do know that right.

Originally posted by AnteBellum
Well, not his God at least!

But really, for those of you who go to church what are you talking about when this subject comes up?
And the subject must come up, even if it is briefly.

I am agnostic but from what I have seen religions do through history, I would say your gods are happy he is dead!
But don't let me speak for you, tell me what you think. . .

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IMO God is never happy with murder.
I haven't been to church for a while, but I seriously doubt that people in New Zealand churches are discussing OBL!
Vicky

reply to post by Vicky32


Islam's God doesn't condemn killing, and infact wages war on Kufirs until the only religion is Islam.

To say that God doesn't condone killing is to say you understand the thoughts and wishes of God - How do you?

This is why it's such a rediculous notion to suggest that "GOD is on our side" for war - I hate people who push that.

Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by Vicky32

 

Islam's God doesn't condemn killing, and in fact wages war on Kufirs until the only religion is Islam.

To say that God doesn't condone killing is to say you understand the thoughts and wishes of God - How do you?

This is why it's such a ridiculous notion to suggest that "GOD is on our side" for war - I hate people who push that.

I think you know nothing about 'Islam's God'...
I don't say 'God is on our side' in war, I am against war and always have been. (Fixed up your spelling there for you, no need to thank me, it was distracting me badly.)
How do I know and understand the wishes of God? The Bible and Church tradition, which was always against war until recently.

reply to post by Vicky32

I think you know nothing about 'Islam's God'.

How do you know? Do you know i'm wrong? Have you read the scripture? Or just formed an opinion?

I know nothing abou the God of Islam? It only takes is a small around of reading, and confirming the arabic translations to conclude that Allah is n

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Please tell me i've quoted out of context, tell me i'm wrong about Allah again.

How do I know and understand the wishes of God? The Bible and Church tradition, which was always against war until recently.

Not up until the recent has "The bible" and "chuch tradition" started to condemn acts of war. A quick study of the history of religion shows that congressman justified there wars through "GOD" And preiests did not disagree. It comes from the same idiotic age where men thought geological events were dictated by the deity (as punishment)

The God in the abrahamic scripture condones the entiring killing of a race of people - "The The Amalekites"

Thanks for correcting my spelling, always thankful for that. For your conjecture and judgement, i give you no thanks.

reply to post by awake_and_aware

The God in the abrahamic scripture condones the entiring killing of a race of people - "The The Amalekites

Wrong... God never condones killing... Places you read that in the bible were written by men with agendas, Not by God. God didn't write the bible so any attempts at claiming God condones murder in the bible is complete nonsence.

I have everything to thank him, my life changed after the 9/11 and I'm happy with who I am, if he had not done that I would not be here.

Originally posted by awake_and_aware


Not up until the recent has "The bible" and "chuch tradition" started to condemn acts of war. A quick study of the history of religion shows that congressman justified there wars through GOD. And priests did not disagree. It comes from the same idiotic age where men thought geological events were dictated by the deity (as punishment)


Thanks for correcting my spelling, always thankful for that. For your conjecture and judgement, i give you no thanks.

edit on 8/5/11 by awake_and_aware because: (no reason given)

Well, you'll be glad that I fixed your spelling again!

How do you not get that I am not talking about the USA, and its brief history? I could not care less about what Congressmen did, thought or said. The USA has been at war throughout its entire history. So of course Congressmen wanted war, but whether they justified it by reference to God, I don't know (and actually I doubt it..
In fact you're being illogical and inconsistent. The USA has existed only since 1776 (?) and afaik men never thought that geological events were dictated by the deity, much less after 1776!
Some links for you
Wikipedia overview
Mennonite page
Specific to Sept 11
Interesting argument

reply to post by Akragon

1 Samuel 15:3 HCSB Now go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy
everything they have. Do not spare them. Kill men and women, children and infants,
oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

Samuel 15:3 - - please feel free to do your own research before spouting ignorance.

reply to post by Vicky32


LOL - Thanks for the spelling correction - You're like my ATS proof-reader. Thanks for mentioning it (again) though.

So a link to an article explaining Pacifism contradicts the history of preachers on the Christian right wing actively condoning wars by inferring "GOD"? Nice argument, Vicky.

You forget that groups like the Westboro Baptist Church actually believe in the fundamentals of the bible, They are CONSISTENT with their beliefs, they don't cherry pick. They are the way they are because they truly believe "the word of God".

They don't just change their religions moral and ethical teaching because of modern social pressure. They are consistent. That's about the only compliment i can give them; For believing in something so jaw-droppingly retarded, but believing it ALL - Not just some of it.

Thanks again for being my personal spell-checker - Feel to mull over this one too.