Naked news arouses anger

Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
This is the first time this type of news will be broadcast in my country, if it gets approved.

Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
It is shown on national tv here mate, free to everyone that has a tv set and reception.

It is not pay per view here. Freely available.

VVV

Did I miss something? Did they just approve and air it within the last hour...?

Look guys, i am not anti nudity on tv. Please don't missunderstand me.

I am talking from the viewpoint of the collective in my country. Like i said, very old school, very conservative, and off course there will be a bit off uproar about this matter here. But then it will die down, and be forgotten, and the show will go on.

This is nudity, and not pornography, and thus i don't have a big issue with it. There are however people out there that will have a big issue with it.

What you guys are saying are all true. Kids these days are exposed to nudity, at very young ages, but in the back off my mind, there is still a moral issue about this that concerns me.

VVV

reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep


Please don't take anything I said as me claiming to be for nudity on basic cable. I am against it. I think it's fine how it is.

There was a time a female in a bikini on TV was considered taboo, but it got edged into TV shows and became the norm. What next? Nudity? Then what? Sitting down watching the Superbowl with my parents, to see a Pepsi commercial come on with full-blown penetration? That would be disturbing.

If anyone here says they are for nudity on public TV because it gives kids an understanding of the human body, then why not show all-out decapitation videos and brutal rape scenes to give them a greater understanding of the world and the horrors in it? A line SHOULD be drawn... the other side of that line is up to the parents to expose their children to through education and the dreaded "talk".

I don't mind nudity and gore, but keep it on the subscription channels.

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
PS I saw the "naked news" when I was like 12, and it wasn't the first time I saw a pair of tits nor was it all the exciting compared to other things out there.

Well, you are currently on a conspiracy website...something drove you crazy

It was probably the psychedelics that made me realize what garbage the "normal" perception really is

Well, that and when you grow up mostly on your own in a small town, you can really only laugh at what most "normal" people consider to be serious problems, like nudity on TV. Spike TV would be a hundred times better if it wasn't censored to be "acceptable viewing" for 14 year olds.

reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep


The best way to counter the perversions of society is to eliminate them

not eliminate nudity, but rather, make it no big deal, then suddenly seeing a nip on the tele is about as exciting or unusual as seeing a foot.

then a kid may grow up and instead of fixating on seeing nudity as the epicenter of lifes point, will instead be curious about the mindset of people.

Its only interesting when its hidden

reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep


The truth is, there are still tribes out there in the world that still walk around naked or close to it next to children. In modern society though I can see why this would be a problem in the first place, especially with naked news. You bring up an interesting subject here 3V. $&F!

I don't see too much harm in this as it's just meant to be entertainment. It's not like it's the BBC who are adopting this policy.

Upon seeing your thread, I did a little ''research'' on this and saw a clip or two. While it's amusing and entertaining for a short time, I think it would get pretty boring rather quickly.

I don't really get the protecting the children angle, either. It's only natural for children to be curious about these things, especially when society makes nudity such a taboo.

Besides, I'm pretty sure - with the internet being so ubiquitous in modern life - that most children will see naked women doing things a lot less banal than reading the news !

reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep


You see, I don't understand this one bit. We ALL are born into this world naked, and most of us suckle off of our mother's own naked breast, and yet we are now relegated to the idea that seeing naked people anywhere is somehow an abomination? I just don't get it.

Now I'm sure that some will say, "that's totally different!! She's feeding the baby" To that I'd have to ask, if it's okay then, why is it not okay anytime after that? Why is it that people feel the need to shelter their children from nature? The natural, naked form of another human being doesn't always have to elicit a sexual response from people. We've become programmed to be that way, as a result of the rampant media bombardment over the course of the past several decades. Being naked is not always about sex. For proof of this, I ask another question: Is it a sexual act to bathe? I don't think so, but that must be done in the nude to be done effectively.

I guess I only have one thing left to ask here.... When are people going to grow up, and start acting like the mature people that they are supposed to be??

ETA: A couple more things... this whole issue brings to the fore an interesting point that I feel should be made. People are being encouraged to find the human form to be something to be hidden from plain sight. This causes people to have low self-esteem, which could result in several things, not the least of which are eating disorders, obesity, etc etc etc... At what point do we, as a society, say no more sheltering our children? If they don't learn it from their parents, they're gonna learn it somewhere. Wouldn't you parents out there like to know that YOU were the first ones that your children came to when it came to matters of "the birds and the bees", and not some peer they have at school? I know I would. Better they learn the truth from me, than some nonsense from someone who knows as much or less than they do!!

TheBorg

Its been around a few years now.. Pity I gave up television years ago - thats one program I'd WATCH

reply to post by TheBorg


Your logic seems sound... at first.

We were also born into this world with nothing. Would you be comfortable walking down the street with your child, stepping over hundreds of naked homeless people? We also used to mate randomly like animals. Let's just start having wild sex in the middle of a super market. Maybe you should think twice before getting your child glasses, braces, life-saving medical treatment, and an education... because after all, we WERE born into this world naked, sickly, deformed, uneducated, and "broke".

I don't look at clothing as a shield covering up the disgraceful human body. I look at clothing as a form of evolution. We dropped the body hair and adopted clothing.

I like to think the human race has evolved beyond walking around naked, defecating on the sidewalk and clubbing each other over the head caveman style.

Wait wait wait , some of you actually think that in this day and age kids have actually any problems in seeing women naked ? And that this harmless show will actually increase the risk factor

reply to post by Adyta


I wasn't addressing the practical applications of clothing oneself. You and I agree totally on the evolution of man thing. I was merely trying to make the point that to think that being naked is always a sexual thing is total and utter bollocks. Why shelter children from the truth? This thread is about how this news show might impact a nation of people that haven't seen their style before, and how the children may be affected by seeing a man/woman undress while on the air..I just didn't know that nudity was somehow a "novel", or new concept.

To be totally honest, I've seen a few segments of the broadcast, and I must admit that it is oddly pleasing to watch, and not in the way that most think. It's simply pleasing, in the art appreciation sense, if that makes sense.

TheBorg

Why can't this be the other way around? I want to watch some buff men while watching my news...

reply to post by Adyta

I don't look at clothing as a shield covering up the disgraceful human body. I look at clothing as a form of evolution.

Ok, having sex in the middle of a supermarket is certainly uncivilized, but if people want to walk around naked, we shouldn't call them shameful and disgusting people. They are simply embracing nature...the only problem is the problem other people have about nudity. Nudist don't have a problem with it, it allows them to feel free. Yet other people shame them and say it's damaging for children or whatever. It's simply a stupid mind set imo. Kids are taight that nakedness and sex are these secretive and shameful acts only adults should know about. We even try to stop kids having sex when ever we can. We claim there's some sort of universal age limit and if they were to ever have sex before that age, it's a despicable act and they should be sorry, even if they used protection kids can be harshly scorned for partaking in sexual activities. We like to hide it all from the world, in the darkness of our rooms, trying to be quite so no one hears. Talk about absurdity, this ultimately pleasurable act is treated as if it were a blasphemous sin. WE ARE ANIMALS, yet we try to act as if we aren't.

reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep


its prolly a stunt to capture more aidience and commercials

reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep


I've seen Naked News, aside from the stripping its actually a pretty straightforward news program, I wouldn't even consider it pornography although it certainly walks the line. Love the use of the word arouse in the title though

I don't see how porn demeans women, I tend to admire women who put their bodies on the line to create adult entertainment, in many ways they are similar to athletes. So what next athletes are being objectified just for their physical talents and musculature, and what about BODY BUILDERS, all the fuss seems silly to me. As for the fear that kid's are watching, that's the responsibility of the parents to monitor what they watch.

reply to post by Adyta


Mandatory clothing or sex only in private is nothing more than social conditioning of our culture. There are (or were) cultures where walking around naked or sex also in public is viewed as the norm. There is no particular reason why our way should be better than their way, IMHO.

reply to post by TheBorg


I agree with you on the point of nakedness not always being sexual, but most of the time it would be. On TV it CERTAINLY would be sexual. In movies with nudity, 99% of the time it serves no purpose other than to excite viewers. Why do you think horrible films have a lot of nudity? It's the only thing that makes the movie even somewhat entertaining.

Also like I said before, the nudity would just be a stepping stone. Eventually, it would get boring, and producers would try to push it further by introducing hardcore porn scenes into basic TV commercials just to excite the viewer.

Here's an example. Nudity in movies has been around for decades. It's almost expected that movies are going to have at least some nudity in it. Just recently I saw a Hollywood movie with all-out close up penetration that served no other purpose than to just be there and excite people. The movie is called Antichrist.

reply to post by Avyuir


You can. There is a segment called "Daily Male" that features buff guys reporting the news.

reply to post by BlahBleh


Yes, we are animals, but it doesn't mean we should "embrace" that fact and start acting like savages. Dogs are animals. I have seen dogs have sex in the middle of the street... the same dog that eats the cat crap out of the litter box.

We're an intellectually evolved species and we should be held to a standard. If you saw a man walking down main street completely naked, which thought would pop into your head first? "Wow, look at him. What a free spirit, I admire that guy" or "WTF is wrong with him?".

Besides, if we were all to walk around naked... where would we keep our wallets?

reply to post by Titen-Sxull


I think people see it as being bad because many men get a false sense of how a woman's body usually looks, and tends to look at all women in a perverted fashion when they really shouldn't, and a lot of people find that disrespectful, because it shouldn't always be about a woman's body.

I wouldn't know though, because I'm not a man, that's just what I've heard many people say.

I say we allow for #ing at any random time. It's merely dogma that we shouldn't # whenever and whenever we want.