Are Aliens Here Among Us? Exploring Possibilities Between Aliens, The Illuminati, and PBB

reply to post by Andelise


I'd like to know more about the NWO agenda concerning that particular group of greys. The only "proof" I ever see is people refering to some strange eye twitch by a news reporter or something... I don't buy it.

Do you know any religious or historical texts, or even current ones, that discuss the greys being slaves to the reptilians of Alfa Draconis?

reply to post by Thermo Klein


Hey Thermo - Yes, it was INDEED a lot - and of course I have only shared here on this thread a tiny snippet of the entire, rather epic and archetypal dream. Later, when I read Black Elk Speaks, and also the Book of Revelations, I recognized aspects of my 4-year old dream in it.

I agree with you that children are closer to the penetrative veil, aka, The Doors of Perception. I have a theory that severely traumatized children may have even more penetrative abilities. As Leonard Cohen once wrote: "There is a crack in everything; that's how the light gets in."...

Thanks for your comment.

reply to post by Thermo Klein


@ Thermo again: I will send your question (anonymously) to my South American friends straight away to see what they say! Then, rest assured, I will get back to you with their answer. I myself am inquiring of others here on ATS if they have heard of any of this, as this entire concept of the Reptilians and Grays is nearly "ho-hum" news in South America at this point - they just assume it is all true, those that ascribe to such ideas.

reply to post by Thermo Klein



Thermo, my South American contacts say that the historical text to refer to is the Sumerian Tablets. Sound familiar to you? -Ande

reply to post by Thermo Klein


Also, Thermo, do you believe that "The Grays" are connected in any way to Project Blue Beam (assuming "The Grays'' in fact exist)?

For ALL those who are interested: A colleague in South America was kind enough to send the following link to the Sumerian Tablets that reportedly discuss Aliens here on earth among us now, The Reptilians in particular. I am still reading it myself. We can discuss as everyone likes once perused.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

The "4D" Earth exists parallell to the "3D" Earth, we live and interract amongst aliens, they have thier own cities and dwellings, and have a certain degree of overlap with our soceity. They basically engineered our primitive ancestors so we could have some of thier abilities, however, we lack the wisdom that thier souls have to be able to ascend to their level. If we were allowed to cross to thier level we would almost instantaneously become "Service To Self" as in thier domain there is no "free will" and we would be able to act out all our carnal desires in thier realm, causing untold havok.

And remember, that which threatens the homeostasis of the system will be r/ejected from the system...I personally relish the feeling of being resoundingly r/ejected. There is, of course, a system in place here on ATS, with little rules, and the Big Brother Mods.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

The reptilian and other entities, which are manipulating our world by possessing "human" bodies, operate in frequencies between the Third and Fourth densities. These are referred to as "hidden spaces and planes unknown to man", in the apparently ancient Emerald Tablets, which I quote from in "Children of the Matrix". For simplicity, I refer to this "between world" in my books as the lower fourth dimension.

These reptilians and their allies have corrupted Earth DNA with their own and this genetic infiltration lies dormant until it is activated by the vibrational fields generated by the Illuminati secret society rituals, and others in the public eye like the carefully designed coronations and official ceremonies of many kinds, including even the UK State Opening of Parliament and certainly those of the various religions.

Once activated, the DNA opens the body to possession by these reptilians and other beings, and this is what is happening, for example, to Freemasons in the rituals that most of them deliver parrot fashion while having no idea of their vibrational significance. This is why the Illuminati are so obsessed with knowing a person’s bloodline. They know which have the potential for this activation and possession and which do not. The Mormon Church genealogical data base and now the DNA data banks are designed to identify those with the bloodline.

These are the people who are given jobs and roles that serve the Illuminati agenda, while most of them have no idea what is really going on and what they are being used for. Their DNA is then activated and they go through a change of character (a phrase I have heard so many times in relation to such people once they advance in the system) and a very different consciousness takes over their mental and emotional processes.

This is why it is so important for everyone to stay well clear of ritual, no matter how innocent it may appear on the surface.

Aliens/UFO phenomenon is a hoax, it's a massive cover-up to hide the manipulation of humanity by inter-dimensional entities, these entities are in constant contact with few ruling elites at the top of illuminati hierarchy. These entities can appear in any form i.e human, reptilians, greys, pleiadians etc, many ancient indigenous cultures have several mythologies associated with these beings. The main aim of western imperialism backed by masonic and other secret societies was to destroy any knowledge regarding these inter-dimensional entities. The members of secret societies - freemasonry, order of the skull and bones, knights of malta, the fabian society all evoke these entities through rituals, but might not be aware of that.
Dr. Hynek was a Alien\UFO debunker employed by the govt., but later he found out that the lights floating in the sky are actually beings coming from other dimensions.
www.spotlightministries.org.uk...

To me, it seems ridiculous that super intelligence would travel great distances to do relatively stupid things like stop cars, collect soil samples, and frighten people." (Jacques Vallee, Revelations, p. 290). After 30 years of serious UFO research, Hynek finally adopted the theory that UFOs are from another dimension, or a parallel reality (Bob Larson, UFOs and the Alien Agenda, p. 93).

Dr. Hynek's work was never published, because truth is always suppressed in our society. The sham organizations like SETI are setup to spread disinfo about the alien/UFO contact, they know the truth about so called ET's. But to confuse the masses they portray themselves as searching for intelligent life (non-existent) on other planets.
www.youtube.com...

reply to post by Andelise

There is supposedly an alien race living amongst us earthlings who are known by the name "The Reptilians"; they are reportedly from Alfa Draconis. The Grays (Zeta Rettculi) are the Reptilians' slaves, and the Grays are the ones that deal with The Illuminati. Then (or so this particular theory goes), there is another race of "good" aliens called EBES: These look like grays but are very old looking, like Yoda. And the ORIGINAL Annunakis, some say, are from the Pleiadian and the Andromedan realms.

You make some valid points, friend. I too have come to believe that our original creators were the Annunaki, and that they were in fact Pleiadians. Innanna was the grand daughter of Enki, I believe, and should be in line for the throne, as it were. Innanna was the mother of mankind originally, and perhaps this coming is a rescue mission? And ETs are living on Earth, I have actually seen a few myself. Here lately I have been seeing a lot of people that just don't look, or act, human.

reply to post by SystemResistor


Hey, SR! I am inclined to agree with you here. I have a friend who channels and his material feels intuitively "on the mark" to me. Between this, and dreams I've had, I ascribe to the multidimensional, parallel reality view as well. But, would you go beyond even 4 dimensions here? How about 5, 9,or 11? And what might that "look" like to us humans, experientially?

reply to post by illuminazislayer


Great to hear from you, STB. See my reply to System Resistor. I agree that ETs exist in parallel realities. I have always intuitively sensed this. I ask SR a few questions in my reply. Would love it if you added your thoughts here as well. And I appreciate any thoughts you have on how Project Blue Beam might tie in here. Thanks, Ande

reply to post by autowrench


Good to have you here, Autowrench. Hey, did you read the link I posted of the supposed Sumerian tablet translation? Sounds like it might strike a cord with you. What's your thoughts on ETs possibly existing in parallel alien realities, in other dimensions?

Originally posted by Andelise
reply to post by Thermo Klein

 

Thermo, my South American contacts say that the historical text to refer to is the Sumerian Tablets. Sound familiar to you? -Ande

oh, you mean the ancient clay tablets translated by Zecharia Sitchen about the Annunaki and the Sumerians in te Lost Book of the Enki? nope, never heard of 'em!

Originally posted by Andelise
reply to post by Thermo Klein

 

Also, Thermo, do you believe that "The Grays" are connected in any way to Project Blue Beam (assuming "The Grays'' in fact exist)?

I hesitate to use the term "believe" because I don't really have any proof or evidence of such a thing... but my general feeling is that one race of greys are tied in with the Bilderberg/illuminati/NWO people, which means they're tied in with the use of PBB. I wouldn't even mention it if it wasn't a direct question though

reply to post by SystemResistor


At the end of each of our lives we can look back at the choices we made. We DID make each and every one... it is only our perception of free will that exists because there's truly no way to prove we have it. Plus, if you believe in any type of enlightened being or deity which can see past, present, and future at the same time then free will is obviously not possible. One of the wonders of being human is that we are ignorant to the true nature of the universe - we believe we are separate individuals, when in actuality we are not - again only a perception.

That being said, is being aware and awake to the fact we are not individual and do not have free will choices make that non-human reality worse than humans have? I don't think so... if you knew you were simply part of a universal "whole" imagine the level of acceptance, the amount of love and connection.

reply to post by Thermo Klein


@Thermo and System Rider: This leads me in the direction of the Taoist implication of "NON-Action" - The "Non" is invariably split up by us humans into "Not" or "Not Not". It is not so. I have read much on Assagioli's concept of "Will" and "Self" - He grasps the subtleties in ways most do not.

Do you guys have any personal sense of what the Taoist Sage "Lao Tzu" (likely in truth a composite character, if not actually fictional) might call this idea (reality, for some, I would imagine) of "Non-Action" as related to Thermo's most recent reply, and preceding discussions?

reply to post by Thermo Klein


P.S. Thermo: I really want to explore this idea of Grays and PBB - I will do that on my own and get back to you, but feel free to shoot any insights or possibilities you may have my way.

reply to post by Andelise


I don't have any sources handy but I feel there is plenty of proof that Roswell was indeed a crashed UFO. This is up for debate as usual but there's the guy who made the weather balloon announcement while holding a related paper that talks about "victims" and there's the recently re-surfacing FOIA docs that point to insider knowledge (some argue this very in-depth amazing story that it's a ruse because some guys initials are the same as another guys...). But I believe we have had access to greys and their ships since the 1940s.

I also believe various alien groups were in contact with our Military Industrial Complex all the way back to when Eisenhower warned us about them. They have power and technology and I believe they are in contact and getting technology from the greys.

This same group, backed by Bilderberg, which conrols the world through various means has every reason to incite world craziness and fear, reliance on fake leadership, etc by using something like PBB. The latter part is speculation but it fits right in with the way Bilderberg and NWO operate.

reply to post by Andelise

I see that most members are not being very helpful to you as far as pointing out the various sources for these "aliens on earth" stories. So let's take a few paragraphs to review some of the more major ones:

One group of sources is channeled data. ETs communicate through a human who writes down what they say. Similar to some stories about how the Bible was written or how the Vedas originated. This group includes:
The Billy Meier material.
The Ra material.
The Cassiopaea material.

And actually many others in addition to these. Each story is a little different, but they have similarities.

Another group of sources involves the interpretation, or re-interpretation, of ancient artifacts including ancient writings.
The "granddaddy" of this type of material is Erich Von Daniken. Though mostly a publicist, he has done some of his own research.
A famous interpreter of the Sumerian stories is Zecharia Sitchin. But there are several others.
There are others who concentrate on the Native American legends.
And there are still others who concentrate on archaeology, like Michael Tellinger and Michael Cremo.

Other writers concentrate on the Illuminati themselves and who they are. (But be careful of word origins; they can be misleading.)
There is another group that concentrates on the MK-Ultra program and related criminal activities. This is mind control type stuff, and gets into heavy abuse. Some people who have been interviewed include Duncan O'Finioan, Aaron McCollum, and "mauri" who wrote a book and posted a web version at
www.reflectionsinthenight.com...

Then there's another group that investigates abductions and is into regression therapy to restore blocked memories. Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs are just a couple of many researching that stuff.

There are a bunch of other people who have run into the ET connection "accidentally." Some of those people have been interviewed for Steven Greer's Disclosure Project. A lot of thse people don't want to get into the subject deeply, but just to report what they have seen. Others, like Bob Dean, have gotten more involved.
I found out about this by reading some of Hubbard's materials, but he was not really personally interested in the subject of contemporary ET contacts, so his data is more of the background variety.

On top of this there are a bunch of guys, mostly "New Age" types who think that everything's fine, that the ETs mean us no harm and only have our best interests in mind. I personally think these stories cannot be trusted.

The overall picture painted by all these people, in very general terms is as follows:

Life on earth as we know it originated off earth. Life has been present in the universe for at least millions of years. Beings have used many different things as bodies on down the track, including relatively inanimate machines, like puppets, and more mechanical things, like robots. Organic bodies are also an ancient invention, but only became the homes of their own inventors relatively recently (but still many many millions of years ago).
The game of finding a barren planet, seeding it with life forms, and creating a viable biosphere on it is an ancient one. Many of these "experiments" basically went wrong, creating societies capable of abnormal levels of greed and violence. These aggressor societies would go out and terrorize peaceful planets started by other groups, and Earth was one such victim of this. The most recent invaders left a hand-picked group on earth to continue to dominate it, which they have been doing to a greater or lesser degree for thousands of years. Apparently one of the old invader groups, know to most as the "Reptilians," along with their helpers the "Grays" have recently returned here for some mysterious reason. Some stories say they never really left, but have been living underground the whole time. But this time the peaceful ETs are also in the area, trying to mitigate the ill-effects of the Reptoids without being too overt about it, which seems to be a no-no.
So it's pretty well a major confused mess. You are invited to read up on all this and see which version of the story seems most believable to you!

reply to post by Andelise


Could you please share with us what some of these people are saying. I am very interested in the project blue beam theory.

Have a look at this thread below. It is a discussion on a recent apparition of the Virgin Mary. I have been actively participating in it and providing loads of video links, but no one can seem to get past the point of arguing over whether it is really happening or not.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I have also started a thread below with video links to a couple of other very famous sitings relating it to being a religious phenomena. I will state here, as I have done in the other threads, that I have personally witnessed phenomena at a day in Auckland New Zealand along with about 2000 other people, so for me it is not a case of if it is happening but what is happening.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I would love to hear other peoples opinions and see if people can connect the dots with these apparitions re a higher agenda.