MEET Iran's possible "New President"?

reply to post by OldCorp


I know that's classic
too funny

DP

reply to post by SLAYER69


I think I prefer an Iran with Mashaei in charge rather than the current one. Obviously Amhenijad likes this guy, heck his daughter married Mashaei's son so he is essentially family.

Mashaei seems like someone the Iranian people would rally around too. He is looking to see Iran move forward under the mantle of Iran's great history and not Islam...I am all for somebody who takes pride in their country's history and not at the expense of putting it's people under the jackboot of a religious and/or secular regime. Hopefully this guy won't get 'disappeared' before the next election.

Little snippet that caught my eye, not all Iranians are religious zealots....

Hardliners close to Khamenei have accused Mashaei of compromising the Islamic Revolution and the principles of Islam by focusing on Persian history. Mashaei infuriated conservatives in 2008 when he said that Iranians are "friends of all people in the world – even Israelis". He was also criticised for applauding at a ceremony in Turkey in which women performed a traditional dance. Women are not allowed to dance in Iran.

Source

reply to post by Schkeptick


He wasn't arrested. It states that several people close to the president and him were. As some members have already stated it reminds me of Putin takeover from Boris Yeltsin. Ahmedinejad has mis-managed the economy and allowed economic lapses to prevail. This has clearly caused an anger amongst the people like Boris Yeltsins(In alignment with the WBO, the IMF and the U.S treasury) un-popular and un-democratic economic and political reforms did. Infact if we were to hear of a minor attack(terrorist attack) on Iran by some kind of militant faction then it would be almost identical. However I don't believe that will occur.

This is very interesting, however I am dissapointed that the comparison to Hitler have already started even when no one on this forum really knows enough about him to pass such judgement. I'm interested in what this means for U.S and Israeli relations in regards to Iran.

Originally posted by SpeachM1litant

I'm interested in what this means for U.S and Israeli relations in regards to Iran.

Good point about relations between the West and Iran. I read a thread here at ATS the other day where Israel came right out and said something to the affect that if Iran had nukes it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

I'm starting to tend to agree with that stance. The USSR and Red China faced off against the US/West with Nukes during the Cold War and if one side made the mistake of launching all sides would lose.

Hi all,

Sorry if the spelling is wrong...
Wasn't there some talk about some Maitreya (sp?) is believed to be on the Earth in the last days, or something? Forgive my inability to convey what I mean articulately enough though...so many "prophesies."

Is the Ayatollah (sp?) guy all mad because somebody is supposed to come and be more supreme than himself? And the arresting of these "sorcerers" seems just surreal. One would think that if one is actually capable of sorcery, one could cast spells on his enemies to rid them of the planet?

If sorcery is real, and they practice it in Iran, why are THEY not shoving "policy" around the planet?

I'll tell you what, if I was a sorcerer but didn't know until after 9-11 that I was, I'd totally make Cheney, W., Rice, Rumsfield and their subordinates to all go on a streaking campaign through the streets of homeland america.!
Or something to that effect...

reply to post by SLAYER69


Exactly. I'm not concerned with Iran obtaining nuclear weapons per se. I am concerned with the existence of nuclear weapons as a whole. No matter who has them.

People often misjudge Iran due to the demonization of the country in the MSM. They are just like every other leadership in the world. Sometimes they do things they shouldn't but they are still rational. They know launching a nuke first would lead not only to their demise but to the demise of millions of others in other nation-states.

reply to post by Anttyk47


I was thinking the exact same thing. The ohter thing that comes to mind though is the possible way to influence the RG. Reports have stated in the past that Ahmadinejad had made several changes in an effort to exert more control over the RG. Having this guy as his chief of staff may very well be that power play. The fact the guy comes from the intelligence arm of the RG tells me he may also know where the skeletons are hidden, placing him in a position to exert influence over senior members.

Ahmadinejad has been accused in the last fiew years of attempting to elevate his office to that of the Ayatollah, making them equal (and we know how that will go over). A lot of the changes that have gotten Ahmadinejad in trouble have revolved around a power consolidation.

Naming the roving ambassadors who report directly to him underminded the diplomatic corp that answered the the Ayatollah.

The release of the American female hiker (she and 2 others who were taken into custody for supposedly entering Iran from Iraq while on a hike) was released over his objections. If people remeber for like 2 days we kept getting conflicting information).

The intelligence chief who was fired by Ahmadinejad, and the reinstated by the Ayatollah.

If Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei is his chief of staff, then I serisouly doubt he has any political future if the reports of the Ayatollah asking Ahmadinejad to step down are true. I would assume, maybe incorrectly, that any person with close political ties to Ahmadinejad would be radioative.

If they are close to Agminidejad and supported his actions, why would the Ayatollah allow them to run for office?

The only other plausible explanation I can see is Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei was actually a double agent so to speak. Maybe his loyaltes are still to the Ayatollah, and being a former member of the RG very well might support that theory. Maybe the Ayatollah was using this guy as a means to control Ahminidejad, or at the least keep tabes on what he was doing.

If Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei was playing both sides of the fence and assisted the Ayatollah, then yes I could see him as the next PResident of Iran. If not, then I see his political career being overwith simply by associating with Ahminidejad.

reply to post by SLAYER69


Reminds me of a song

"meet the new boss same as the old boss"

But anyway he seems well aligned (and related by law) to the current president so probably not much will change!. I am not sure whether the Ayatollah is big fan though! All this stuff about sorcery and evil spirits is concerning to say the least. Lets wait and see I suppose!

i guess that Ahmadinejad will be elevated to supreme general of the Revolutionary Guard and the supreme leadership of the acknowledged 10,000 martyr vested bombers that are ever on the ready for deployment to the front lines of Israel from Lebanon or Syria.


the Presidents' usefulness can not be diminished...as he is Divnely guided to create the chaos needed to preceed the Mahdi...

he can't be ousted to an ignomineous end as 'SLAYER69' implies in his condensed report/thread
~or else i'm reading non-facts into the story~

reply to post by Cryptonomicon


Oh man..I was seriously reading Slayers thread and WHAM...

I spit beer all over my monitor..

Damn that was funny..

I have nothing on topic to say yet...

give me a few minutes...

reply to post by Cryptonomicon


OMFG!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

I swear funniest post I've seen on this site in months!!!!! Like he's leaning into the room mocking Ahmlatefordinnerdad spectacular!!!

This guy might be the REAL president but he isn't the real leader. Them religious nuts are way above him. Think Obama and the industrial military complex.

This is an interesting aspect to the Iranian. To be honest, I like the sounds of the Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei alleged aims at dislodging the Ayatollah from absolute power over Iranian politics. There had ought to be a separation between those of the cloth and politicians. History is a prime of example of why it is dangerous to mixed theology and politics. The Crusades, the Inquisition, and witch burnings are some examples.

However, we are aware of how crafty Iran is when it comes to international politics. For years, there has been threats of attack by the West in response to the alleged nuclear weapons program. Through clever diplomatic moves, alliances, and public relations brilliance. They have been able to leash the dogs of war, and have been able to persuade the international community that they are being unduly singled out. That is the fact of the matter. The best the West could do was get sanctions imposed on Iran.

Personally, I think this alleged political rift is a stalling effort as some have alluded too. Israel has never lost concern over Iran and its alleged pursuit of nuclear weapons. Even the US continues to view Iran with a weary eye. Perhaps, the Iranian government is realizing that the jig may be up?

This could be a carefully crafted stage play by the Ayatollah to rid the country of Ahmadenijad and his off-the-wall rancor and rhetoric? A progressive, and largely liberal leader would buy back some brownie points with the West. Of course the Ayatollah is going to contest any challenge to his influence, and perhaps his contention will be merely public? In private, that will be an entirely different story. All in all, this is definitely an interesting development no matter how some may view it.

Ahmlatefordinnerdad spectacular!!!

Lol... His name, it just keep getting better... This thread is full of win.

Sorry Slayer - I forgot the original question...

reply to post by Xcathdra


Man that's a bit of a read. You have taught me much too! It seems like this really is exactally the way the Russian Government works with Putin. My father is Russian and listens to Russian Radio and tells me all the things that goes on that is just infulenced by him even though he's not in power. I should pay more attention to Iran, it seems this is bigger than i though 0.0

Guess everybody does have a twin in this world.

I sure miss those US is going to attack Iran predictions.

Maybe if this guy becomes President we can renew those predictions..

reply to post by SLAYER69


Did you read this?
www.yalibnan.com...

How long 'till people start speculating that he is the AntiChrist?????
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reply to post by LadySkadi


Am-a-bad-swimmer-dad? Islam-is-flippin-bad? A-wish-a-was-slimmer-dad?

LOL best name gets a star and flag, so much win in this thread I feel like Charlie Sheen just reading it!!

Thanks for the information, I didn't know anything about Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei. Now I know a little, I can go dig and find more.

BTW Love the Deus Ex 3 Avatar Slayer!
Can't wait to play it!