Army Warns U.S. On New Raid

Army Warns U.S. On New Raid

nation.com.pk

Published: May 06, 2011

"ISLAMABAD – Top commanders of the Pakistan Army have unanimously decided to reduce presence of US military personnel in the country to bare essential."

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The article continues with:

Chairing the 138th Corps Commanders Conference held Thursday at General Headquarters, Rawalpindi, Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, while discussing the US raid to kill Osama bin Laden, made it very clear that any similar action violating the sovereignty of Pakistan will warrant a review on the level of military and intelligence cooperation with the United States.

Interesting new development but not unexpected. The Pakistani's are obviously embarrassed about this as I noted in another thread on ATS:

In Osama aftermath, Pakistan is 'embarrassed'

Jyoti Malhotra / New Delhi May 4, 2011, 0:20 IST

As Pakistan begins to cope with the astonishing reality that the world’s most wanted terrorist, Osama bin Laden, had actually been living quite comfortably in its backyard for the last five or six years, a combination of embarrassment, anger and a fraught sullenness continues to make the country the cynosure of the world’s eyes.

General Mahmud Durrani, a former national security adviser as well as a card-carrying member of Pakistan’s intelligentsia, acknowledged the shock and the soul-searching that had begun to mark Pakistan in the wake of bin Laden’s death.

“It is a double embarrassment for us,” General Durrani told the Business Standard over the phone from Islamabad, “I was among those who believed that Osama bin Laden was living somewhere in the borderlands between Afghanistan and Pakistan, but now we find that he was under our nose all the time.”

“I also don’t believe that Pakistan’s intelligence agencies knew about Osama’s whereabouts or that they were part of the US operation that ultimately killed him… I think they were caught, literally, with their pants down.”

Source: www.business-standard.com...

The Pakastani's have apparently now decided that this is the best course of action to take, in their opinion, at this time. This situation bears watching very closely.



nation.com.pk
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Originally posted by manta78

Army Warns US On New Raid

nation.com.pk

Published: May 06, 2011

"ISLAMABAD – Top commanders of the Pakistan Army have unanimously decided to reduce presence of US military personnel in the country to bare essential."

(visit the link for the full news article)

And the US has unanimously decided to reduce Pakistan's nuclear weapons arsenal to bare nothing.. As in zero. And if the Pakistani regime fail to comply, India will surely be victorious in an impending confrontation.

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I agree that the U.S. is probably not that comfortable with Pakistan's nuclear capability, even though we have worked with them many times in the past, and of course have given them billions of dollars for that cooperation.

Interesting article here regarding India's reaction to this whole matter:

Indian can also carry out surgical strike as US against terrorist in Pakistan, IAF Chief
Posted by Usman 4 May, 2011

New Delhi: India said Monday it has the capability to take out the perpetrators of the 26/11 Mumbai terror strike in the manner the US had eliminated Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, but did not elaborate. The Indian Air Force chief, Air Chief Marshal PV Naik, reacting to US special forces’ operation taking out bin Laden, said: “We have the capability….”
But he refused to elaborate, saying: “No, I would not like to…”.

Read more here: www.columnpk.com...

Pakistan has no choice but to talk tough in public. They don't want their people to turn against them.

But in the end they love our money and will continue to play the game.

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They love our money so much that they should give back the parts of the stealth helo to the U.S. instead of selling it to China. Is China going to give 3 billion dollars in aid to Pakistan in replacement over the U.S.?

Originally posted by jam321
Pakistan has no choice but to talk tough in public. They don't want their people to turn against them.

But in the end they love our money and will continue to play the game.

You are probably right, at least for now. But how much longer can that flow of money continue to them?

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back the parts of the stealth helo to the U.S. instead of selling it to China.

Wasn't aware of that storyline Delta.

China storyline

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I missed that also. Do you a link to that info? Thanks.

reply to post by manta78


They don't want to play nice. Its time to pack up our soldiers pick up their toys and come home. Let India deal with them or China who cares as long as we quit paying their tab. We can't pay our own bills. The US government keeps saying but they have nukes. What happened to all of the nukes when the USSR broke up. There are other rogue nations with nukes. We aren't paying them billions a year. Looks like the placeis about to get rowdy. I didn't think it could get much worse. I guess I was wrong.

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Ok thanks for posting a link to that story:

The last sentence of this paragraph is revealing:

The American troops used thermite grenades to destroy the helicopter’s main body but its rear section was left intact and taken away by the Pakistani military soon after the night raid on Monday. It is feared that if Islamabad refuses a request from Washington for the return of the tail section that the issue could turn into a diplomatic rift.

New video today discussing the U.S. - Pakistan- India situation:
"Uploaded by newsxlive on May 5, 2011"

"Pakistan has hit back at India. Replying to the Indian chief's statement yesterday, Pakistani General Ashfaq Kayani said that any misadventure by the Indian military would be responded to very strongly."

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Both the US and Paki leadership are worried about "democracy" protests by Islamic radicals overthrowing the government and getting their paws on those nukes.

Looks like things are continuing to deteriorate daily in the U.S.- Pakistani relations:

NATIONAL SECURITY
Bin Laden Fallout Strains U.S.-Pakistani Relationship Like Never Before
By Yochi J. Dreazen

May 6, 2011 | 6:00 a.m.
Updated: May 6, 2011 | 6:26 a.m.

Excerpts from this new article:

Pakistan's military chief says he'll order Pakistani forces to fight any American troops attempting another raid on its soil like the mission earlier this week that killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.


It's an escalation of U.S.-Pakistani tensions that suggests the already troubled relationship between the erstwhile allies could be entering a dangerous new phase. Both governments traded public potshots over the American operation that killed bin Laden in his hideout—an enormous compound in an affluent suburb of Islamabad. The proximity of the mansion to Pakistan's equivalent of West Point has raised uncomfortable questions about what Pakistan knew regarding bin Laden and why he managed to remain undetected there for years.


Later at a press conference with Pakistani journalists, Kayani said he would order Pakistani forces to engage any U.S. troops who entered the country in pursuit of other wanted militants. The comments raised the grim possibility that American and Pakistani troops could one day find themselves engaging in open combat, something which seemed almost unthinkable even a few days ago.


Zawahiri, al-Qaida’s longtime No. 2, is now the primary American target inside Pakistan, and U.S. officials are studying what one official described as evidence of “communication between al-Qaida leaders,” which was found inside the compound, some of it handwritten. American officials believe that Pakistan knows more about Zawahiri’s whereabouts than it has previously let on, and Islamabad’s decision about whether to share that intelligence with the United States will help determine whether tensions between the two countries continue to escalate or begin to abate.


For the moment, Pakistan appears to have chosen confrontation over cooperation. Kayani’s appeals to Pakistani patriotism and mistrust of the U.S. were clearly meant to obscure the growing questions about whether elements of Pakistan’s government, military, or intelligence services knew bin Laden was in their country and were at least tacitly sheltering him.

Source: www.nationaljournal.com...

A new video today was published on youtube.com regarding the Pakistan - U S situation:

Pakistan's Prime Minister has denied he or the government knew they were harbouring the world's most-wanted man on its soil.

Yousuf Raza Gilani says Pakistan will not accept sole blame for any intelligence failure in the hunt for Osama Bin Laden, the former al-Qaeda leader who was shot dead last week in a US raid on the Pakistani town of Abbottabad.

Gilani has also warned off any other countries wanting to conduct operations in secret inside Pakistan.

Al Jazeera's Imtiaz Tyeb reports from Islamabad, the Pakistani capital.