Head Of CIA – Reports Obama Watched Bin Laden Die Are Lies, Admits NO LIVE RAID VIDEO FOOTAGE

Originally posted by WildWorld
This is what was said in the press briefing on Monday, May 2, 2011, by John Brennan. He says "real time visibility" .....not sure what that means. Real time visibility sounds like it could be video.
Source

Q In the Situation Room yesterday, could you describe how you were monitoring the goings-on? It’s been described as a very tense -- understandably, a very tense scene. Were you watching the operation? Were you -- were you listening to it? How were you getting your information? MR. BRENNAN: The principals convened yesterday around midday. There were others who -- we were here early yesterday morning. The President joined us then early afternoon before the operation got underway. When the operation did get underway, then the President rejoined the group, and we were able to monitor in a real-time basis the progress of the operation from its commencement to its time on target to the extraction of the remains and to then the egress off of the target. It was probably one of the most anxiety-filled periods of time, I think, in the lives of the people who were assembled here yesterday. The minutes passed like days. And the President was very concerned about the security of our personnel. That was what was on his mind throughout. And we wanted to make sure that we were able to get through this and accomplish the mission. But it was clearly very tense, a lot of people holding their breath. And there was a fair degree of silence as it progressed, as we would get the updates. And when we finally were informed that those individuals who were able to go in that compound and found the individual that they believe was bin Laden, there was a tremendous sigh of relief that what we believed and who we believed was in that compound actually was in that compound and was found. And the President was relieved once we had our people and those remains off target. Q Was it -- was there a visual, or was it just radio reports or phone reports you were getting? MR. BRENNAN: We were able to monitor the situation in real time and were able to have regular updates and to ensure that we had real-time visibility into the progress of the operation. I'm not going to go into details about what type of visuals we had or what type of feeds that were there, but it was -- it gave us the ability to actually track it on an ongoing basis.

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edit on 5-5-2011 by WildWorld because: (no reason given)

Ok.. here is the Telegraph report on that briefing... which is titled...


Osama bin Laden dead: Barack Obama watched US special forces' raid in 'real time'
Barack Obama was able to monitor the raid that led to the death of Osama bin Laden "in real time" from the White House, it has been disclosed.


www.telegraph.co.uk...

Now don't forget that the transcript shows what was on Camera and these reporters do off camera interviews in which more details are revealed.

One such example, is off camera it was revealed that Osama was UNARMED when he was assassinated. You won't find that quote or video of it anywhere, only reports that the US official made the statement off camera after the interview.

Again, CNN reported this on the air and they are not going to report Obama watched the live video feed without hearing it from a reputable source and verifying it.

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After compiling all the information, I'd have to agree. Newspeak, right out of 1984. When are people going to take to the streets to fight this power?

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by OldCorp
On topic, nothing surprises me when it comes to the deception of this administration.

Can someone clear this up? Does anyone want the truth? Or is this just another "let's make up our own lies about our oppressors" thread?

SHOW ME THE LIE.

Thanks.

The LIE is right there in front of your face, to state is this is a "let's make up our own lies about our oppressors thread is absurd.

The mainstream media reported this and every news outlet carried the story. Now you could argue that all of these media outlets is lying and not the government because they all ran the story which you claim they have not source.

However the lie is there in black and white on several news websites, so don't say this is us making up our own lies. The all media outlets reported this so again they are lying or the government is lying.

If you want to believe all of these news organizations is lying and the Government is telling the truth you have your right to your own beliefs.

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Wiki page for Brennan

Yes he is in the photograph you're asking about. I believe he is standing right behind Hillary.

reply to post by alexhiggins732


Hmmm.......
Too much hoax and scams for this "event"...and Too much lies...

Too much lies on this news....
Too much lies on every front...
Too much lies from MSM, Intelligence, Military, and Politics.

A "Classic" Cointel Op, and not so good planned.

Seems that this event is only the prelude for something else.
Hope not the Worse...

Originally posted by alexhiggins732
You are joking right? The Sun, The Daily Mail, The Telegraph and CNN... the list goes on and on who reported it?

The CNN story clearly says in the title that the pres watched in on live feed, but the article doesn't support that. It says he 'remotely monitored the situation', not that he watched a live feed. Those are two different things. Watching on a live feed is much more specific. I hate to be so nit-picky, but if people are going to accuse someone of lying, I want to see someone lie. What I see is that CNN took liberties with what Brennan said and sensationalized their headline... And people obviously fell for the sensationalism.

It could be that the computer in the room Obama was in was connected to someone in Pakistan giving a blow-by-blow. Who knows? We don't.

As far as watching it, Check out AC360 for the time and data quoted on the live blog. It was first reported on CNN TV then I updated the live blog with a quote from CNN's blog. Its all right there.

It's all right there on the blogs, huh? I don't know what AC360 is or how to check out data on the blog. I'm actually not interested in any blog. I want to see where an administration official claimed that Obama watched the kill "on live feed", as CNN (apparently incorrectly) claims.

I guess some people are just in denial that they are being lied to by big brother, kind of like little kiddies in shock when the find out there mommy has been lying to them about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

Well, that's childish to go after me personally, but I'm just asking for a statement from the White House that they watched this on live feed. Is it too much to ask to see the lie you all claim is there? If CNN says something and the White House says it's not true, how do you know who's lying?

Can someone show me where the administration reported that they had watched this live? Thanks.

Originally posted by alexhiggins732

And there was a fair degree of silence as it progressed, as we would get the updates.

Why would they have to "get updates" if they were watching a live feed???

And when we finally were informed

Why would they be waiting to be "finally informed" if they were watching it live?

Here's an CBS news report. Watch the last minute of it..


www.cbsnews.com... %29#

"One of the people in the room heard the commander utter Geronimo... etc. We are also told that at one point, the president WATCHING WHAT WAS UNFOLDING SAID QUIETLY 'WE GOT HIM'"

PRESIDENT Obama was watching on a TV screen as a commando gunned down Osama Bin Laden.

Via a video camera fixed to the helmet of a U.S. Navy Seal, the leader of the free world saw the terror chief shot in the left eye.

President Barack Obama and Pentagon officials watched the Pakistan-time midnight raid with “real-time visibility” back in Washington.

The footage of the battle in Bin Laden’s Pakistani hideout – relayed to the White House by satellite – was initially said to show one of his wives acting as a human shield to protect him as he blasted away with an AK47 assault rifle.

However later a White House official said those reports were wrong, and the woman who died with three other men, including one of Bin Laden's sons, was not the terrorist's wife.

www.dailytelegraph.com.au... ry-e6freuy9-1226048823370


Edit: Here is a short link to the story since ATS is clipping it because it is to lo
ng:

bit. ly /iXM3bo

Arguing over whether or not officials even stated they were watching video, we quickly forget that officials first reported "The live video feed showed Obama's wife acting as a human shield"

Originally posted by alexhiggins732
"One of the people in the room heard the commander utter Geronimo... etc. We are also told that at one point, the president WATCHING WHAT WAS UNFOLDING SAID QUIETLY 'WE GOT HIM'"

From that quote, one can infer that they had live audio feed—radio communications—and that the president was watching THE SITUATION. "Watching what was unfolding" does not necessarily mean "watching a live video feed." One could be listening to a radio feed and still watch the situation unfold.

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by alexhiggins732
"One of the people in the room heard the commander utter Geronimo... etc. We are also told that at one point, the president WATCHING WHAT WAS UNFOLDING SAID QUIETLY 'WE GOT HIM'"

From that quote, one can infer that they had live audio feed—radio communications—and that the president was watching THE SITUATION. "Watching what was unfolding" does not necessarily mean "watching a live video feed." One could be listening to a radio feed and still watch the situation unfold.

It says they were watching the live video feed before that quote!

Trolls! Trolls! Trolls!

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From your own link

Mr Brennan did not comment of whether the Washington observers heard gunfire or saw people being shot, nor would he elaborate on the type of “visuals” that were being screened back to the Pentagon in real-time.

So the article claiming

Via a video camera fixed to the helmet of a U.S. Navy Seal, the leader of the free world saw the terror chief shot in the left eye.

did so without citing a source for that information.

Originally posted by alexhiggins732
It says they were watching the live video feed before that quote!

The article says it, but does not say that Brennan said so. Brennan could have been getting stills, not video, and it still could have been real time. So there's no proof that he lied. Visuals could be any number of things... Satellite or infrared views of the compound could be "visuals". Spy plane footage could have been real-time as well. Or if there was a real-time video feed from one of the soldiers, there's no guarantee he was the soldier who pulled the trigger, or that he was even in the same room when it happened.

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"watching the attack as it unfolded"
"One of the people heard a commander shout, "Geronimo! EKIA"
The President, watching what was unfolding, said quietly, "We got him".

They were clearly watching SOMETHING, but were they watching as though through a Navy Seal helmet cam? Were they watching some guy in a helicopter giving them updates? Were they watching reports from a base in Afghanistan? Stills? Video? Did they see Osama shot in the face?

Here's what Panetta actually said:

"Once those teams went into the compound there was a period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn't know exactly what was going on. And there were some very tense moments," Panetta said. "We had some observation of the approach, but we did not have direct flow of information as they were going through the compound."

To my knowledge, the only White House comment on this at all is that they would NOT say what kind of video they had or were watching or exactly what they SAW.

Just show me, as your OP states, where these officials inside the US Government said that President Obama and other US officials watched live video footage of the Osama Bin Laden assassination raid inside the situation room at the White House.

Seems like they watched the approach, but still, where is the lie? Show me the lie.

Asking for facts does not make a person a "troll" no matter how many times you say it.

Show me where I'm wrong and I'll be glad to admit it.

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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by alexhiggins732

 

"watching the attack as it unfolded"
"One of the people heard a commander shout, "Geronimo! EKIA"
The President, watching what was unfolding, said quietly, "We got him".

They were clearly watching SOMETHING, but were they watching as though through a Navy Seal helmet cam? Were they watching some guy in a helicopter giving them updates? Were they watching reports from a base in Afghanistan? Stills? Video? Did they see Osama shot in the face?

Here's what Panetta actually said:

"Once those teams went into the compound there was a period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn't know exactly what was going on. And there were some very tense moments," Panetta said. "We had some observation of the approach, but we did not have direct flow of information as they were going through the compound."

To my knowledge, the only White House comment on this at all is that they would NOT say what kind of video they had or were watching or exactly what they SAW.

Just show me, as your OP states, where these officials inside the US Government said that President Obama and other US officials watched live video footage of the Osama Bin Laden assassination raid inside the situation room at the White House.

Seems like they watched the approach, but still, where is the lie? Show me the lie.

Asking for facts does not make a person a "troll" no matter how many times you say it.

Show me where I'm wrong and I'll be glad to admit it.

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edit on 5/5/2011 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)

The lie is the reports that Obama watched Bin Laden Die, geesh!!!

You are arguing that the Government didn't lie about that, but every news outlet in the world lied. Clearly the news reports say that the officials inside the Situation Room at the White House were watching the live video feed of the raid and clearly the news outlets reported Obama watched Bin Laden Die.

Originally posted by alexhiggins732
The lie is the reports that Obama watched Bin Laden Die, geesh!!!

I could see that. The lie was probably generated by the media (or more likely they made assumptions), NOT by the White House, the administration or Obama, as your op states:

Originally posted by alexhiggins732
All lies planted into our high by a lying federal government. Obama and all of the other officials who told all of our corporate media outlets they watch live video of Osama Bin Laden being assassinated, an intriguing story that never happened.

This is what I'm asking for clarification on, repeatedly, and you have NOT given it. Repeatedly.

You are arguing that the Government didn't lie about that, but every news outlet in the world lied.

I'm trying to find out the truth. DID the White House say they watched Bin Laden die? I cannot find support for that FROM the White House.

Clearly the news reports say that the officials inside the Situation Room at the White House were watching the live video feed of the raid and clearly the news outlets reported Obama watched Bin Laden Die.

So that would indicate that the MEDIA lied, not the government. Is that your story?

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I think Obama was controlling the robot that killed Osama. Then he switched back to his video game, not knowing the difference.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by alexhiggins732
The lie is the reports that Obama watched Bin Laden Die, geesh!!!

I could see that. The lie was probably generated by the media (or more likely they made assumptions), NOT by the White House, the administration or Obama, as your op states:

Originally posted by alexhiggins732
All lies planted into our high by a lying federal government. Obama and all of the other officials who told all of our corporate media outlets they watch live video of Osama Bin Laden being assassinated, an intriguing story that never happened.

This is what I'm asking for clarification on, repeatedly, and you have NOT given it. Repeatedly.

You are arguing that the Government didn't lie about that, but every news outlet in the world lied.

I'm trying to find out the truth. DID the White House say they watched Bin Laden die? I cannot find support for that FROM the White House.

Clearly the news reports say that the officials inside the Situation Room at the White House were watching the live video feed of the raid and clearly the news outlets reported Obama watched Bin Laden Die.

So that would indicate that the MEDIA lied, not the government. Is that your story?

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edit on 5/5/2011 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)

Bottom line is the reports are lies. These statements were first reported by the media after taking "off camera" statements from Government officials who wouldn't answer the questions on camera.

I first reported on my live blog the reports that Obama watched the live feed on May 2nd after hearing it on CNN.

http://(nolink)/2011/05/01/breaking-news-feds-finally-admit-osama-bin-laden-dead-confhttp://(nolink)/2011/05/01/brea king-news-feds-finally-admit-osama-bin-laden-dead-confirmed-dna-test-21932/irmed-dna-test-21932/

I updated the live post with a link to the CNN article once it was published:
edition.cnn.com...

This is the same CNN article quoted in this post and the story highlights reads Obama watched the live video of the attack and lists Brennan as the source:

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

1. President Obama is said to have watched live video of the attack on Osama bin Laden
   
2. The White House's counterterrorism chief says he monitored the situation with Obama
   
3. The CIA director reportedly gave the go order for the raid
   
   

(CNN) -- As special-operations military troops prepared for a firefight about 7,000 miles away, President Barack Obama entered a room in the Washington area early in the afternoon on Sunday to follow along.

Like a page plucked from a Hollywood screenplay, Obama and other principal coordinators for the mission that killed Osama bin Laden convened in a "situation room" to remotely monitor the situation, John Brennan, the U.S. counterterrorism chief, said in a White House news briefing on Monday.

Obama arrived after many of the mission's leaders had assembled there, but the president joined before the attack on bin Laden's mansion in Abbottabad, Pakistan, began, Brennan said.

Originally posted by alexhiggins732
This is the same CNN article quoted in this post and the story highlights reads Obama watched the live video of the attack and lists Brennan as the source:

Don't you realize there's a difference between watching a live video of the attack on the compound and seeing live video of Osama being shot?