Osama Bin Laden's Death Picture Readied for Release

reply to post by Jakes51


The truth is it's an incredibly complex picture right now, and trying to figure it all out is like a game of wack-a-mole.

This could be as simple as Patraeus going to the CIA and them cleaning up the 'books' before he gets there.

It could be a desperate attempt to shore up the dollar, by convincing international investors the big dollar investment in the Homeland Security Apparatus and War on Terror is winding down.

It could be a way to exit Afghanistan with face "we got our man sorry about all the dead civillians got to run" so they can repeat the process in Libya and Syria with the troops stationed in Afghanistan.

It could be a way to finally put the Birth Certificate Controversy to end, and or to otherwise improve the ratings of a President who has accomplished little for the people, but has faithfully served the Corporations in the runup to a reelection bid.

Heck could be all of the above and then some more.

The whole problem is we do know they are selectively spoon feeding us only bits of informtion across the board, timed for effect, meant to emotionally manipulate and distract the masses.

This is just the latest glaring example of it.

Like 9/11 and so many other things we likely won't ever know the truth regarding Osama Bin Laden, but we do know the truth about the information game that the government plays.

I'd like to add that I personally believe their window of opportunity has closed regarding the release of anything.

Any release should have been immediate to have been at all convincing or be much of an impact.

The more time that goes by, the more suspicious people become, particularly in this age of manipulation and deception.

They should have released it immediately or even have broadcast it live and damn the consequences. We're big girls and boys and we can decide for ourselves. But not if we're shielded and protected.

reply to post by ~Lucidity

In an effort to be fair, wanted to mention that Drudge changed their headline to WHITE HOUSE TO RELEASE BIN LADEN DEATH PHOTO

Glad to see it.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Officials worry the bloody photos could inflame anti-American sentiment.

This statement is difficult to digest, I'm pretty sure the killing of innocent civilians by drone attacks and a decades worth of occupation inflames anti-american sentiment more than the release of these photos ever could.
So that statement is VERY difficult to accept as truthful.

In any case, I think the photos should be released
It's high time the Govt. shared information with the public

Apparently more information may be released soon
Thoughts?

abcnews.go.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

So they don't want to release pictures of a dead. world renknown terrorist? the scum# should've be brutally killed.

Anyways i digress, however they don't care when a video of the US army is released showing the pilots killing innocent civilians? disgusting

Edit: If they don't release the fire, it'll further my belief that
a) He's been dead for awhile now
b) He didn't really die
c) did he even exist in the first place

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Sinnthia

 

I'm clueless, too, but I think they could edit out stuff that might be a problem and still give us some information about it. I certainly hope they do.

I guess so. But I was already thinking about the quality of the footage and adding jump cuts makes me queasy. I just know how secretive they seem to be about things that seem really mundane to me because of the greater implications of the things enemies can discern from what I might never notice and all that junk so I assumed they would not really be releasing anything at all as far as the raid itself went.

Personally, I am not interested in seeing nightvision helmet cams. The Blair Witch and Cloverfield were bad enough. I guess it is a paradox for me as I have watched so much reporting and computer simulations of the event and all that I just have no desire to see bouncy footage of people shooting each other. I find myself more interested in the stuff they have been showing because even though it is fake, you get overhead views and a broader picture of what is going on. Maybe it is just me but I think I would rather play Rainbow Six than watch any video they have to release but I sincerely hope you all get the video you are hoping for as I think I am a fringe minority here.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Officials worry the bloody photos could inflame anti-American sentiment.

This statement is difficult to digest, I'm pretty sure the killing of innocent civilians by drone attacks and a decades worth of occupation inflames anti-american sentiment more than the release of these photos ever could.

Then you obviously don't understand the power of a photo on mass media to places where they don't experience the things you mention...

More and more you just seem blind to reality outside of your microcosm of perspective...

The hype is saying it will be the most viewed photo EVER.

I'm predicting it'll be a HUGE disappointment.

reply to post by AshleyD


You know, I really did not want to be a "truther" about any of this and when people first started speculating it was fake my first reaction was not good. Then I remembered where I was and why I joined ATS to begin with. Still, I am not really too full of doubt on this one and I am not sure why. But the body dumping thing is almost kinf of begging me. There are those people we all at ATS know. The ones that never want to hear any of our "paranoid" tinfoil hat stuff. At least 5 of those people have come to me to say how weird they thought it was. I dismissed that too but then I watched Richard Engel - someone I have a lot of respect for as a journalist - go on and on about how strange he thought it was.

They did have reasons like not wanting him to have a marked grave and all and I get that but it really kind of stood out the way he seemed to be hoping that someone was going to come up and explain it to him because he really didn't get it. I guess if he is getting his tinfoil ready, I better get my hat back out of the closet.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
The hype is saying it will be the most viewed photo EVER.

I'm predicting it'll be a HUGE disappointment.

If it is not in 3-D RealD then I will not be impressed.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
I'd like to add that I personally believe their window of opportunity has closed regarding the release of anything.

I can't believe how short people's attention span is. It's like everything has to happen in "text time" or it's not real. Maybe it's because I don't have a cell phone and I don't text or have any electronics that keeps me attached to the world by my belly button, but I think it's perfectly reasonable for the government to take a week to decide if releasing the pictures is the wise thing to do on a world-wide level.

If they were going to fake the pictures, they could have had them already faked up previously and ready to release.

They should have released it immediately or even have broadcast it live and damn the consequences. We're big girls and boys and we can decide for ourselves. But not if we're shielded and protected.

I don't think it's us they're concerned about.

I'm really fascinated to see ATS's reaction to this whole event. It's a very interesting study to me. I never expected this reaction to OBL's death.

reply to post by BrokenCircles


Honestly, how would this differ from some graphic images shown in an action movie or video game?

I think we're all de-sensitized enough to this kind of violence, so show us the pics/videos.

@LukeRussert
WH officials tell NBC News, as of right now, there is NO plan to release #BinLaden death pic. Recent internet reports are inaccurate.

Originally posted by Fromabove

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Osama Bin Laden's Death Picture Readied for Release

abcnews.go.com

President Obama and national security officials are considering releasing a photo of Osama bin Laden's corpse today

"We are looking at releasing additional information, details about the raid as well as any other types of material, possibly including photos. We want to understand exactly what the possible reaction might be to the release of this information,"

Also up for consideration is the release of video from the "helmet cams" of the Navy SEALS who went after bin Laden. The SEALS capt

(visit the link for the full news article)

Much like the fake birth certificate, it takes some time to produce because they have to get it right. It's hard to create a believable photo of Bin Laden, especially if you throw away the only proof you had into the ocean, that is, if it really was Bin Laden they tossed into the ocean. There's so much to not believe about this president and this government these days, I don't think they actually killed him. It's all a fake Hollywood movie show, I know cause I've seen enough action packed movies to know it's all fake, just like all the rest of the make believe stuff these days.

edit on 3-5-2011 by Fromabove because: (no reason given)

Surely they could have had the image(s) ready before the raid then?

They are first going to release this pic... I just got it via backchannels...


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d0d37892c3a8.jpg[/atsimg]

I just hope they do a better job than with LF birth certificate...
Well actually I don't.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


There is a lot of stuff going on at the moment, and you summed up most of it before in your initial remarks. There is definitely something afoot, and it could be anything. The trends are not very promising from systematic unrest in the Middle East and elsewhere, economic uncertainty, and what you have mentioned in this response. If this is not a diversion from significant news and developments, then I don't know what is?

A lot was going on before this release, and out of the blue; the man of mystery, phantom of Central Asia, the walking dead, and other references to Bin Laden is suddenly killed in a crack raid deep inside Pakistan and near a Pakistani military compound? Then, to make matters even more suspicious, we get an almost midnight announcement by the President on a Sunday with no corroborating evidence to provide foundation to his remarks? This whole thing is fishy, and with fish after about three days they begin to stink. I hope these photos, and videos are released. It is often said sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Originally posted by InfaRedMan

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Here is the thing, they can claim all they want they are weighing what the 'responses' might be, but the truth is, it's just a way to keep the media spotlight by releasing this information in staggered amounts, and in a way that keeps people anticipating the next release of information, and staying tuned into the process.

Sounds like they've learned something from Julian Assange after all!

IRM

I was pretty critical of Assange for this tactic too. Many people though defended it saying it was such a large amount of information he was releasing it couldn't all be digested in one release.

However in this case it certainly isn't hundreds of thousands of emails that have to be digested, but a few short minutes of videos, pictures, DNA annalysis etc.

Though the real question is of course, was Assange the first to sieze upon the tactic of controlling the release of information for maximum media attention, and to that I would have to say no. He likely learned the tricks of the trade from the Government(s) propaganda machine(s), not them learning it from him.

Excellent example though of how it is done.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Degausser
@LukeRussert
WH officials tell NBC News, as of right now, there is NO plan to release #BinLaden death pic. Recent internet reports are inaccurate.

CNN says otherwise:

The official says the challenge is that the picture that includes the most recognizable image of OBLs face – from the hangar in Afghanistan – is so gruesome and mangled its not appropriate for say the front page of the newspaper. On the other hand, this is the one that is most identifiable as him.

They also said earlier today WH was thinking on releasing the pictures and even video

@cnnbrk Release of #Osama bin Laden death photo "could" come today via CIA, senior government official says

source 1
source 2

I can already foretell the future on ATS if this happens

"it took them so long because they had to fire up photoshop..."
"that's fake...look at the pixelated distortions...."
"that's not really the sea they're dumping the body in..it's a soundstage..."

That will be another long day of trudging through multiple threads of the same topic. I wonder how many of the people that believe this story to be a lie will accept photo or video evidence as proof?

Michelle

They just need to put a little lipstick on him and a bottle of whiskey in his had.

Then the photo will be ready.

Rest with the fishes you murderer.

reply to post by Enter Ruin


They should send the picture(s) to BestGore.com and just release the link.

Personally, I think that, now that they've mentioned the photos and videos, they HAVE to release them. It's like saying, "I have a question," and then turning around and saying, "Nah, y'know what, I'm not gonna ask." It's not allowed. Anyone who's ever done that with me has quickly been reminded of the rule: once you mention it, you have to say it.
So, they've mentioned the photos and the videos, now they have to release them.