Don't Be Distracted : The Real Problem = Historic Mississippi Flood/Intentional Levee Breach

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


Look you got some good points there... but if you wanna start the millionth thread about OBL go right ahead...

I on the other hand could care less about anyone's OBL theory...

If it wasnt for this thread... I would have took a vacation from ATS because of all the OBL clutter...

I'm sure you got some valid points...

But since OBL has taken all the headlines this week...

Then OBL has been a distraction!

So please take no offense...

When I say this, I have nothing against you

But don't bring that non sense into this thread

The issue here is this Flood and all events related to it...

Thank you

-Evol Eric

reply to post by coolottie


First off... I applaud you!

It is not unamerican of you!

That info is scary!





I agree if Memphis was evacuated it would be a blessing in disguise if
there was a quake!

reply to post by EvolEric


I think given the tone of your response you did take a little offense.
I wasn't trying to derail your thread I was giving you my opinion.

If I wanted to be rude and blunt I would say this is ridiculous and why on earth would they distract us from a natural disaster that is quite honestly impossible to distract from? They are clearly trying to fix the problem.

Sorry I posted in your thread guy I didn't know you had so much personally invested in it.
Didn't mean to hurt your feelings or anything.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow



I took offense... yes I did...
I have nothing against you...
I'm sick of OBL this and OBL that...

The truth is... It was a distraction...

Cos there has been no wide spread news coverage of this Flood...

I just turned to CNN and HLN... guess what was being shown...

OBL...

CNN ran a little segment on the flooding...
but it was right back to... OBL...

20,000 people is gonna be evacuated from Memphis...
That is a very historic city... Did MSM run a story on it?

It would be a miracle if they give 20 words on their ticker about it...

How many thousand people are going to lose their homes?

How many acres of farmland is going to be destroyed...
wasnt it close to a million?

So yeah its a bit distracting when I turn on the news
and it is nothing but OBL this and OBL that...

My prayers and my sympathy goes out to the people effected by 9/11
I was at the WTC 3 weeks before 9/11

But when right now in America a disaster of this size is happening,
people are losing their homes...
they are losing their lives,
they are losing their jobs

they are losing everything they own... and only a handful of people know about it
because OBL is on MSM 24/7

then I got a problem with that...


its not with you...
I appreciate your opinion as a human being..

But not here dude...

I am glad you wasn't rude, I appreciate that too

to show you there is no hard feelings... I am gonna flag that thread you created and give you a star

The thread can be found here

Again It is not against you... but right now I am sorry, OBL makes me see red

-Evol Eric

Originally posted by EvolEric

If it wasnt for this thread... I would have took a vacation from ATS because of all the OBL clutter...

Seconded.

This thread is talking about a real event unfolding as we read it.
The lack of coverage of the flooding in the MSM is telling.
The way we are reacting, and handling this is
predictive of future disasters.

OBL threads all over ATS
are a yeast infection.


David Grouchy

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow

Sorry I posted in your thread guy I didn't know you had so much personally invested in it. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings or anything.

Dude...
I'm sorry.
my angst is NOT meant to be directed at you!!

It is MSM and the blind eye
and the OBL Clutter

reply to post by davidgrouchy



Well said...

OBL threads all over ATS are a yeast infection.

Great comparison

reply to post by EvolEric


It's cool. I know there are masses of OBL threads, but I assure mine isn't a repeat as it is opinion and theory not news links. I was just sharing in your thread because you are obviously interested in the same thing as me.. what is the misdirection.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


I'm interested in one thing...

This flood and the people effected

For those people whose voice is not heard because it has been silenced
by the surge of OBL fever...

For those people OBL is a distraction

-Thanks for stopping by

-Evol Eric

Here is a recap of some information

The Bonnet Carré Spillway will be opened on Monday, May 9, due to high water on the Mississippi River, according to a news release Thursday from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. The spillway opening will begin at 8 a.m. and the public can watch it at the Bonnet Carre Spillway Project Office, 16302 River Road in Norco

No decision on opening the Morganza Spillway has been made, Gov. Bobby Jindal said at a Thursday news conference updating federal, state and local government plans.

Mississippi River levels are expected to crest on May 23 at 47.5 feet in Baton Rouge. At 9 a.m. Thursday, river levels were at 36.3 feet in Baton Rouge.

There’s a “pretty good chance” the corps will open the Morganza Floodway control structure to allow some water from the Mississippi River to flow through the spillway into the Atchafalaya River.

Opening the Morganza Floodway could potentially cause backwater flooding in areas such as Stephensville, near Morgan City

Pointe Coupee residents who live near the levees should stay prepared to evacuate in the event that the levees are not high enough to protect against flooding.

The above info can be found here



We have a ATS member in Memphis, TN
Check out his post
He is reporting on the situation there
The local media there is preparing/warning of the possibility of an evacuation
Check out his post...

For a bit of news on Memphis, TN

Emergency officials warned that residents may need to leave their homes as the river rises toward an expected crest Wednesday of 48 feet -- about 3 feet higher than Thursday. The record in Memphis, 48.7 feet, was set in 1937.

Source

- Thursday In Kentucky, authorities closed 250 roads in 50 counties. The Coast Guard rescued at least 28 people, 12 cats, and three dogs from rising waters.

In Louisiana, National Guardsmen used sandbags to fortify levees in the northeast part of the state, and the state penitentiary stood ready to evacuate prisoners.

Source



A lot Happened on Thursday...
A lot is gonna happen as this progresses...

Remember this from above?

Mississippi River levels are expected to crest on May 23 at 47.5 feet in Baton Rouge. At 9 a.m. Thursday, river levels were at 36.3 feet in Baton Rouge.

That's right... May 23rd...

Its going to be an entire month of flooding...

-Evol Eric

reply to post by EvolEric


Thanks for the recap and info there, EE. Much appreciated.

I'd seriously recommend anyone that lives in areas that could be touched by evacuations (think Memphis and places to the south along the Old Man) start actually getting out NOW, as opposed to later.

The reason is because it would be MUCH better to get arrangements to get out NOW and take some time doing it, AND, you will avoid the "crazies", as well. Even under the best of circumstances, a mandatory evacuation of an area, especially if it's on a limited time frame, will cause people to act in ways you'd never expect they would.

It's a lot better to get out now and avoid all of that than to have to deal with it, if at all possible.

If that's not a possibility, or you think, at all, that you will be staying no matter what, get yourself stocked up NOW before the "crazies" kick in and the store shelves empty out.

Make sure you've got enough food to last at least a couple of weeks, including dried beans, flour, sugar, rice and salt and pepper (you'd be amazed at how much a little bit of simple spice can make survivability a much more pleasant experience lol).

Make sure to have at gallon of water per person per day, which can be used for drinking, cleaning, and any other purposes. Remember that in a flood situation, even if your house itself is safe from the waters, your aquafers will NOT be, and even with city water that can get ruined.

Prepare for power losses with candles, heating and food cooking supplies, etc. Make sure you toss in a couple of decks of cards too. (the survival pleasantries again lol)



In 1977 and 1983, my hometown, Fort Wayne, IN, ended up being devastated by massive floods. Our town is known as the Three Rivers City, since we sit on the confluence of 3 major rivers in Indiana. In those years, we were almost completely under water when all 3 of them flooded.

I learned a GREAT deal about surviving in a flooding situation in those times, and I swear I still have callouses on my hands from all the sandbagging that had to be done (schools even sent all the children to sandbag for 5 days straight, it was that bad).

So believe me when I say I know what you guys in those areas are going through right now, and I am sending my best to you.

Read above carefully and ask yourself if you're ready. If you have ANY doubts, fix it now while it's still easy to do so.

I'd like to add to my above "get prepared" info (lol) the following, as well...

I'd highly recommend setting up a small emergency kit for your vehicle, as well.

If you get a small rubbermaid container or even a small cardboard box, that can fit into your back seat floorboard, you can stock up some essential items in case you are in your vehicle and get cut off from floods that come in while you're away, or even in flash flood situations.

When setting up a kit like this, I'd recommend the following:

A few cans of food that can be eaten without preparation, like soups, ravioli, etc (don't forget a can opener)
A box of crackers and fruit roll-ups or something similar (great for the kiddos, as well as adults lol)
Flashlight - and make sure you have extra batteries, or use the kinetic type that needs no batteries
A Blanket to cover the box and to use for yourself when stopped and it's chill outside

Finally, what I think is the most important tool of all :

Auto-Escape Hammer

These small tools would not be placed into your box, but can be mounted on your dashboard, sun visor or other convenient and easy-to-reach locations. Most versions of this tool incorporate a hammer to smash out a window if you are trapped, a knife for cutting through jammed seat belts, a needle to punch a hole in an inflated air bag, a whistle and a flashlight.

These tools have saved a TON of lives and, I think, are extremely important for anyone living in areas with rivers/lakes/etc. Trying to break out a car window while under water is nearly impossible without a metal object of some kind to help puncture through the pressure between the interior and the water outside.


Just a couple things to keep in mind, guys

Hopefully this stuff can help some of you out.

Originally posted by EvolEric
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow

 

I'm interested in one thing...

This flood and the people effected

For those people whose voice is not heard because it has been silenced
by the surge of OBL fever...

For those people OBL is a distraction

-Thanks for stopping by

-Evol Eric

This thread and the information is even more important to be posted for those whom have lost their homes, jobs, internet and cannot post about it themselves. Same goes to the tornado victims. Same goes for the unemployed and homeless.

All ATS members need to put their money where their mouths are, like the OP of this thread, and show how great of a community we are by helping our fellow human beings in survival. The Time IS Now.

In the very least, Speak for the silenced.

S&F for the OP, of course.

reply to post by Jomina


GREAT advice Jomina!
Thank you!

Please listen to Jomina's advice!

Be prepared for this!

If you know someone who lives in that area...

call them, text them... facebook em, email them

however you want, don't scare them but advise them

This is a serious event... a lot of homes are built on the river...

This is the worst flood on record in many of these places!

A LOT of people will be displaced...

So now is the time to act... Take Jomina's advice and heed it

reply to post by EvolEric


i was hoping to wake up to far better news than what i am reading here. EE, if you can do recap posts every now and again, that would be absolute fabulous! as time permits, a thread neads to be created with ONLY THE NEWS ARTICLES AND DATES...

my lord! this is the REAL DEAL. and MSM has been instructed to keep it away from the people. THIS IS WRONG. THIS **IS** CONSPIRACY!!!

to everyone who has posted news and kept this thread moving FORWARD, you deserve a hearty round of applause! keep it up guys n girls! this may be the best source of news on the net right now, and TRUST ME, ive been searching ALL OVER looking for a comprehensive/flowing coverage of the flood. AND THIS IS IT!!!

finally, to those that have already been affected by this (forced IMO) flood, please dont panic and stay safe! theres almost nothing that can be said/typed that expresses our collective concerns about this event, and your lives in particular... all we can do is think and send our LOVE. we are all one and the same thing after all...

reply to post by Jomina


Very very sound advice! I live in atlanta and have been slowly stocking up for over a month now (for reasons not mentioned so as not to derail thread) but this has kicked me into over drive! Losing all these crops/farm land is gonna wreak havoc! Here's a few essentials I've got that I think everyone should think of:
Powdered milk
WATER WATER WATER
flour
Sugar
Canned meat (tuna, chicken, salmon)
Canned veggies
Pancake mix/syrup
Corn meal
Jerky
VITAMINS (nutrients could become limited)
First aid

There are, of course, lots of other things you could/should stock up on but the things listed above are fairly cheap/readily available/easily stored. If you're only worried about a week or two, you could stock up for about $100 (tops $200) and have a pretty strong arsenal to fight off hunger.

Atlanta may not flood but this flood will effect all of america by the end of this year. Those of you in the direct flood path, my thoughts and prayers are with you! Please be safe and as others have said...start getting ready/out NOW! Don't wait for mass panic. Be prepared!

CNN will be in Memphis today.

Great thread EE! Heartfelt thanks for your constant updates & kudos & thanks to posters as well. I've been keeping up with this constantly also.

emergency.louisiana.gov...
LA Govt Emergency site with USACE updates on LA spillways

I've seen other Cajuns on here as well, I'm southwest of Lafayette in the country. For those further north impacted: I can't pray enough for all of you. May God be with you and your communities.

S&F OP! TY very much! Will post if I find anything helpful. Peace & Love All!

Morning news out of Lafayette,LA....
St.Mary Parish meeting

Rising River Poses threat to oyster trade

Towns without levee protection

Sandbags for Stephensville-Belle River

Butte LaRose flood meeting Monday

If they release more info in this area I'll post it. I know some of the info is a bit repetitive, sorry.

Governor issues warning for some towns

River prep ongoing

Angola Prison flood prep

I was wondering does anyone have a detailed map of the area that the spillways will effect? I've looked and I can't seem to find what I'm looking for.