Ban the over 50's from Voting

reply to post by SaturnFX


Back in the day we didn't have intraweb! We had onions which we called Victory apples and spleens hadn't been invented yet but that was before air travel when we had to ride on the backs of Swedish immigrants who we called sun flower seeds before we learned we could plant them but that was when the Easter Bunny still went by the name of Walter and carried a gun.

The over 50 crowd has contributed the most to this nation in the form of Taxes then the rest of the nation combined. Banning the over 50 crowd from voting would be taxation without representation. We would likely have a revolution as a result of this measure taking effect. The over 50 crowd statistically have more guns then the rest of the population and likely are war veterans as well. Best to leave them be and let them vote. Might be safer for everyone.

reply to post by angus1745

Excluding voters over 50 is as bad as excluding voters under 35 - all citizens of legal age should get a say, no matter how much you disagree with them

reply to post by hawkiye

Course you might be surprised at how many over 50's don't vote anymore because they know it's a sham. Age is just a number!

I am one of those people.

I dislike politicians, they lie and decieve to get our vote and then develop a nasty habit of not listening to the citizens who voted them in.

I believe the whole voting system is corrupt - that future presidents and prime ministers have already been decided, and are being/have been primed and groomed for the job for years beforehand.

The voting thing is just a big, false show which is put on for our benefit, and your next government is already in place and just waiting for the announcement of the 'pretend' vote count result, which will successfully fool the public into thinking we voted them in - the Florida Bush/Gore glaring slip-up a few years ago convinced me of that.

I do not see the point of taking part in a vote which I believe won't make an iota of difference to an already decided result.

reply to post by Mikeyy


Maybe it's not liberals but rather your hatred towards them that is the problem.

I've never heard of a school advocating liberal policies over conservative policies. The schools I went to taught a sanitized version of American history and all the other goodies. Only when I got to the 6th grade did I then see a lot of "alternate" viewpoints.

Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
That makes sense. The next government can campaign to divert all the old peoples pensions to the young for a couple of years. At least untill most of the old people die from not being able to pay heating bills.
Restricting over 50's to vote(however sensible is sounds) is un-democratic. That's just what the U.S.A needs. Less democracy.

thought that is what they've been doing???
taking our social security money and using it to feed the "poor, starving kids"!!!!

this is getting pathetic
....
I know you young ones have brains how about using them???
take away mom and dad's right to drive, and well....who do you think is gonna be taxi driver, running them all over hades??? YOU!!
take away their soical secuirty, their pension funds, ect.....and well, guess who is gonna be the one helping them, who is gonna be the ones hiring the babysitter instead of taking them to grandma's, guess who's gonna be competing with them for jobs!!! YOU!!!
as far as we being the original entitlement whatevers.....
well, sorry, but the majority of our kids had daddies home! and we supported our kids as well as ourselves. what's the percentage of kids that are being born today out of wedlock?? why are these so many guys on these forums complaining about how paying child support is just so unfair....SHE LIED TO ME!!!

ummm.....ya....

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by angus1745
I think anyone over 50 just needs to step back and let the people who have a firm grasp of technology and how the world works do the thinking and voting. The over 50's should stick to gardening....

I will attempt to reply w/i T&C.

For starters, mandatory retirement age for commercial pilots was just INCREASED from 60 to 65.

AGE 60 Rule Defeated. Retirement at age 65 Now Law of the Land

www.leftseat.com...

Don't know about you, but I'd take a 65 yo pilot over a 35 yo one ANY DAY. Flown there, landed that.

Three years ago I had surgery by a brilliant surgeon that saved my life. He was 62. Us "old timers" tend to have assets and contribute significantly to the US tax base of which we comprise the majority. I'd say that gives us a vested interest to be "allowed" to vote.

As far as technology, I trust I could dismantle your car engine and rebuild it as well as your computer. There ain't no app for that asshat.

It is obvious from the very notion of your OP that you possess limited intelligence, regardless of your age or purported education.

"Never mistake knowledge for wisdom. One helps you make a living; the other helps you make a life.”

Besides a dear friend told me "50" is the new "30"

edit on 29-4-2011 by kinda kurious because: (no reason given)

Well placed retort, Skipper, and thanks for the soft kind landing.
A much less discreet variety v. t&c would have been tolerated from
over here anyway.
Somebody put a new edge on an old saw for me that fits so well...
"To offer you a mile walk in my shoes would result in your being
a mile further down the road I have to get, and you'd have my shoes too."
Having more simulator time than the Clean Marine does real-time
on a Microsoft FS doesn't even get you a swallow of lukewarm
cappo in Stapleton at 0-dark-thirty, GIVEN. It's where I'm from because
I love to fly, but for med reasons can't. But it can describe (to a mere
earthling like me) how tough it is getting the bird into a short wet runway
with shear gusts dropping your wing stall at the same time in a big good
cumulonimbus frenzy. Let's dial in some sticky flaps, and a couple
barely lit Rolls from the buckets of Mother Nature turning the available
thrust (or clamshell braking) into a potential pant-soaker for most
anybody.
There's also a slogan from a telephone co., "It's the next best thing to
being there.", or MS's "As Real as It Gets" for the FS. For my end of it,
I'll be 60 this fall and as a life long tool maker have turned several station
wagon chuggers into some 2 1/2 horse per cube Tazzes of my own.
The dualchip I'm typing this on is from scratch, and I'm still in awe of
the sometimes thankless job of all four braids safely getting everybody home.
Heartfelt congratulations on your successful procedure, and finally I
have to cast my vote on Mr. ignorance is a blister. The people that say
others should be disallowed a vote are themselves the first that ought be
considered for a go-around.

Originally posted by caladonea
I think your post is ridiculous, unrealistic and insulting. There any many, many people over 50 who are awake and aware of the issues at hand. They are healthy and lead vital active lives. Who made you God and threw away the key!

Caladonea

Caladonea is so This it hurts. Jon Stewart? Are you serious? With the statement alone you proved to us all you are an ignorant & willingly mis-lead American. You ruined your own argument.

Senior citizens are the largest voting pool in America. Maybe your parents, probably your grand-parents. Why do you hate grand-parents? And why do you want to take voting rights away from American citizens? Simply put: what is your major malfunction, mister?

How about opening your eyes to the true problem: America's largest voting pool is severely mis-lead by slanted, biased TV & newspaper reporting.

OP, please think twice in the future before flaunting such stupidity again. It only serves to diminish you in the eyes of others on ATS.

reply to post by angus1745


50 is too young...it certainly ISNT old.

65 perhaps is a more suitable age...i kind of agree with the driving thing...elderly drivers are a nightmare

reply to post by The Sword

The problem is, people over 50 are intimidated by intelligence and the idea that younger people are getting smarter with each generation. The result? They vote for an anti-intellectual candidate, one that's "folksy" and boring and all that tripe.

Oh, For Crying Out Loud!
You can not be serious.

I was going to read the entire batch of responses before posting mine, but you, my dear, get the credit for my shooting my mouth off here. Intimidated by intelligence??
Getting smarter with each generation??

Anti-intellectual, folksy candidates??

Wow.

I have a suggestion - no one should be allowed to vote WHO IS STILL LIVING OFF THEIR PARENTS. How many millenials, how many gen-ys are still living -- or BACK living -- at home with mom/dad?

Perhaps the rule should be: No one who has not supported themselves for at least five years should be allowed to vote. And all this rubbish about not paying taxes??

Well, I won't even go there. The op was clearly smoking something that didn't even exist when we were coming of age. Youth .....

As Shakespeare wrote (and for you highly intelligent 20-somethings: he's a playwright - and some think he was really someone else using a pseudonym -- ah, hell, like my dear deceased Father used to say: LOOK IT UP!)
(Yes, we learned how to LEARN, we old farts over 50 who are now supporting young adults who are far beyond the point at which 99% of US were out on our own and working our way through - um, COLLEGE - while acting as heads of households and rearing children)

Anyhoo:
Shakespeare...

such wanton, wild and usual slips
As are companions noted and most known
To youth and liberty.

The OP shows precisely how little youth changes over hundreds of years. Sigh.

Oh, don't know that quote? Don't know who said it? Can't understand the language used? ....... LOOK IT UP!

Ban the Over 50's. Ban the Under 25's. Ban the Blacks. Ban those of Chinese, Middle Eastern, or German descent. Ban the Jews. Ban the Christians. Ban Women. Ban Republicans. Ban Democrats. Ban the Rich. Ban the Poor. Ban ANYONE who has a political agenda of their own.
To ban anyone from voting instantly skews the purpose of voting, forcing out voters who might weaken the chances of a specific party, which is the whole idea behind voting.
Voting is a system for appeasing the masses. What good is that if the masses aren't being heard?

That being said. You could ban everyone from voting and the polls would likely show "Most of America voted For Blah Blah Blah..." and likely some of these magic americans will have voted two or three times, dead or not. Why? Because the game is rigged and we've already seen the end of democracy. I'm sure you've seen the vid of the guy admitting that electronic voting is both hackable and has been hacked. No one is picking our leaders except for the elite few who have already made up their minds before we even know who's running. Liberty is dead. She's been dead since we allowed our country to be hijacked by pharmaceutical companies, oil tycoons, and international corporations. You can't even get rid of these "elite" because they own the people who have the "power" to get rid of them.

So, this next voting season go Green. Save gas by staying at home. Save paper by not wasting a ballot on an uncounted vote. Instead, dig a hole, plant a bunker, and stock it will all the supplies you need to kiss yo' ass goodbye.

Right, let's just ban all those whose opinions we disagree with.

And while we're at it, let's also leave the decisions making powers to the generation which has been reared on Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, intense MSM brainwashing and plastic surgery mania.....like the OP.

While on the intersate going to my voting place I'm paranoid that I will get a ticket for going 70 in a 65 as you wizz by me. about 5 miles down the road you are being stopped by a law enforcement or DoT for speeding and/or reckless drivng and for trying to cause an accident for cutting off that 18 wheeler (oh wait that was me)
When I get to my polling place being an Independant I need to find out if there is an Independant or American Independant to vote for Oh that big decision if not then will I vote repocrat or demipublican when you come in and say it's all planned out and it doesn't matter.
Hey guy I didn't vote for the current admistration and if it runs for next term I wont vote for them again but I did vote so that they know not just the under 50's I'm well over that age and the progams that I've paid into all my life the current admin is trying to remove.
It seems that some like you are saying that everything we've paid into all of our working lives we should lose with no voice. How about this you work for some one for several years and then they don't pay you and you don't have a say in the matter because you are just an employee and because you got that speeding ticket or arrested for reckless driving you can't drive away.
What ? It hasn't happened to you ?? (yet)

reply to post by Curling1


You are making a generalization about the driving habits of younger people.

I drive more like an old man than my age because I never go more than 70 on an interstate.

reply to post by angus1745


The fact is people over 50 have every right as people under 50. Thing is people over 50 been around long enough to identify bully-lieng candidates. What our problem is with the "voters". First people under 30 are nto the brightest when it comes to wisdom of politics, second, we have far to many migrants who have earned citizenship and have NO CLUE what our political system stand for, or what each party represents. They are rushed by a political party to join their party without full understanding of what their vote effect. take muslums, all they know is control of their time, life and religion. easily manipulated because they only know their religous system, not americas.
No deary us older peoples been around long enough to smell the stench of a bad political system, you youngins have many many many errors to make before you realize how to vote and what your vote truely means to our country....EDIT TO ADD: stop trying to take out the eleders of our country, we earned our stay, step back and learn from the age of reason.

reply to post by angus1745


Im sorry but this is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

People who are 50 aren't incapable of doing anything! My god...what the hell.

So they shouldn't have any say in the next 30 yrs of their life or so because they are "old" and out of touch with technology? That is ridiculous....

I am for the elderly taking a driving test however, living in the retirement capital of the US well it is a bit insane when you see an elderly person who can barely walk get into a car and drive off....as for voting, no everyone should have a right to vote what happens in their country.

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by Curling1

 

You are making a generalization about the driving habits of younger people.

I drive more like an old man than my age because I never go more than 70 on an interstate.

Respectfully, please note the OP set the tone for broad stroke generalizations in opening post. It seems you are now on receiving end of same and it doesn't taste very good. By the way, I always star your posts and have never disagreed with you, until now.

Hypocrisy is a two way street and very cruel mistress.

ETA: In getting caught up on thread, I just read this:

Originally posted by The Sword
Before you old geezers grab your geritol-bombs and pitchforks, consider this.....

Then you go on to say you are cool with "old geezers" you agree with. I kindly retract my earlier "Respectfully" comment.

"Youth is wasted on the young." - George Bernard Shaw

reply to post by derfreebie


That was an excellent read and I thoroughly enjoy your writing style.

As the "whippersnappers" might say, craptastic.

The idea of putting one out to pasture at age 50 is a "doozy" errrr I mean epic fail.

Originally posted by Silicis n Volvo
reply to post by angus1745

 

50 is too young...it certainly ISNT old.

65 perhaps is a more suitable age...i kind of agree with the driving thing...elderly drivers are a nightmare

I am 71 years old and can still legally drive without corrective lenses. I also cannot even remember the last time I had an accident, been ticketed, or was even pulled over by a cop. I manage to drive in a more stable manner than a lot of you young whippersnappers with your cell phones propped against your steering wheel so you can text. Or with your boom boxes on wheels and the volume set so high you would not hear a fire engine siren if it was just off your back bumper.

True, there are some old timers who should turn in their DL's; but I have seen a lot more young people driving erratically because they are paying too much attention to their tunes, texting, cell phone conversation, or any number of other things instead of paying attention to their driving.

reply to post by angus1745

I'm over fifty paid taxes all of my life and went to war for this country not to mention brought three very productive young men (my children) into this world. I'm still an excellent shot and can throw and land a mean punch. Don't say you love old folks and then send them down the river. People like you is why this country has gone to sh*t. Get your head out of your a$$.