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Originally posted by TheLegend
reply to post by auraelium
That was spirituality, not a religion.
I also don't recall Victor claiming they were "in search of God". According to him they don't fear death at all or try avoiding it because they "maybe know what comes after death with more confidence than we do".
Looking at spirituality through a purely cognitive and physiological standpoint makes logical sense. Numerous experiments were done showing spiritual people (e.g.veteran meditators) have lower stress levels, age slower, and possess superior brainwaves (some Tibetan Monks were proven to produce gamma waves from their brain--very incredible). There's also a huge boost to the bliss/happy centers of the brain if you train with meditation long enough.
There's no doubt that if everyone was as spiritual as a Tibetan Monk (including the epiphenomena of being totally selfless, kind, understanding, non-materialistic etc.) that the world would be far better off. I can understand how ETs would want to help us understand that.edit on 30-4-2011 by TheLegend because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by auraelium
Also how can you Look at spirituality through a purely cognitive and physiological standpoint,the essence of spirituality is that the spirit or soul survives the body after death.
edit on 30-4-2011 by auraelium because: Afterthought
Spirituality can refer to an ultimate or an alleged immaterial reality;[1] an inner path enabling a person to discover the essence of their being; or the “deepest values and meanings by which people live.”[2] Spiritual practices, including meditation, prayer and contemplation, are intended to develop an individual's inner life; such practices are alleged to lead to an experience of connectedness with a larger reality, yielding a more comprehensive self; with other individuals or the human community; with nature or the cosmos; or with the divine realm.
Originally posted by TheLegend
reply to post by auraelium
Read transcripts? Are we referring to the same interview? I watched a documentary on Victor's Alien Interview (the one I'm referring to). Victor did not mention anything about God but did mention a lot on spiritual concepts which the supposed aliens tried to convey.
You believe an interstellar, worm hole using species 100,000+ years more advanced then we are hasn't already either ruled out or explained "God" so is doing so by studying animals...?
The greys dont use intersteller worm holes, They only live 50 light years away, this distance can be easily traveled in a short time by gravity distortion and the resulting distortion in space and time, their technology has beeen estimated to be only 3000 years more advanced than ours. So your dealing with a creature thats probably not too far removed from us.edit on 30-4-2011 by auraelium because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheLegend
reply to post by catwhoknowsplusone
Like I said before, abiogenesis proves DNA can form from inanimate matter and the universe wasn't "created" because the universe has always existed because the 'big bang' theory is an insurmountable paradox while to claim a magical super being created it all is even more outlandish.
But I will mention I am working off the logic and science of the present time. So I don't claim to be 100% certain as that's just impossible.
E.g. Maybe in the future when the multiverse is more charted there will be a dimension where pure consciousness energy exists and said consciousness exerts itself via creating DNA from inanimate matter (conscious thought is already proven to emit a frequency). But regardless I am 99.9% certain that if God exists then it's not anthropomorphic. It would be an energy entity and something which permeates the entire universe. We very well could be just extensions of it but are such a small portion of it that we cannot comprehend it. A single atom in your body doesn't 'know' it's a part of your body.
Originally posted by TheLegend
reply to post by auraelium
Looking at spirituality through a purely cognitive and physiological standpoint makes logical sense. Numerous experiments were done showing spiritual people (e.g.veteran meditators) have lower stress levels, age slower, and possess superior brainwaves (some Tibetan Monks were proven to produce gamma waves from their brain--very incredible). There's also a huge boost to the bliss/happy centers of the brain if you train with meditation long enough.
There's no doubt that if everyone was as spiritual as a Tibetan Monk (including the epiphenomena of being totally selfless, kind, understanding, non-materialistic etc.) that the world would be far better off. I can understand how ETs would want to help us understand that.
Originally posted by moogins
reply to post by SaturnFX
That is easy, just say David Icke is our leader and he can explain it to them, probably better than any one of us.
edit on 29-4-2011 by moogins because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by arbiture
Originally posted by Hitoshura
I'd say :
"Sorry if this is confusing, it's just the belief systems that the beings in this sphere use."
Your point is very valid, and you may be right but if you may please provide greater "targeting" may help all. I need more, start with your idea of what is a definition of "a belief sphere" I am not in anyway making less of, or mocking what you have said. Please give me more, by your leave. You are close to ideas I came up with that equivicate aspects of "actions" in the world of 4d "physics" or our so called world Einstein defined.
Originally posted by MasonicFantom
reply to post by auraelium
Only 3,000 years more advanced? That's hilarious. There's cave paintings going back to 29,000 BC with flying disks and grey looking beings.
There's much more evidence I can give (e.g. UFO phenomena is 50,000 yrs old PS sorry for the audio) but you seem like the kind of person that's trying to convince himself (cuz surly not anyone else) that beings superior to you are "searching for God" to affirm to yourself that "God" must exist when you have no evidence that said ETs are in fact "searching for God" or that a "God" even exists in the first place. It's like double delusional points for you.
But regardless of anything, given how old their species is, they are not questioning if "God" exists anymore. They know the answer, whatever that is.edit on 30-4-2011 by MasonicFantom because: (no reason given)