Syria army units clash as crackdown intensifies

Syria army units clash as crackdown intensifies

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BEIRUT – Syrian army units have clashed with each other over following President Bashar Assad's orders to crack down on protesters in Daraa, a besieged city at the heart of the uprising, witnesses and human rights groups said Thursday.

More than 450 people have been killed across Syria — about 100 in Daraa alone — and hundreds detained since the popular revolt against Assad began in mid-March, according to human rights groups.

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Finally the cracks have begun to appear in the Syrian military. There are humanitarians among them contrary to popular belief and they do care about the Syrian people enough to face off with their fellow units.

It also appears that these forces are conscript forces, meaning these are regular people forced into doing things to their own friends and relatives. Things that they refuse to do.

Hopefully the military will eventually follow the example of Egypt and bring reform to Syria, ending Assad's tyranny.

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reply to post by MikeboydUS


It's every nations right to kill their citizens.

Notice there is one crack division who is commanded by Assad's brother. All these dictators have a "loyal" division who turn into mass murderers and later will be hunted down for crimes against humanity.

reply to post by TinfoilTP


Tyrants always have an SS.

They wouldn't survive without them.

reply to post by MikeboydUS


Mike, if I am not mistaken you are in the military. How do you think this conflict or possibly, revolution, will affect Syrian-Israeli relations?

reply to post by SLAYER69

It's every nations right to kill their citizens.

What is a nation? What is a right? What does "their" imply? What is a possession? What is a life?

As nations have been made up and borders have been drawn by servants of crowns, as rights change from time to time depending on the people in power, as their implies ownership...

you are saying; you are owned and whenever those owning you feel like killing you they are justified in doing so.

Do you even understand what you write or say at times?

Originally posted by Mdv2
reply to post by MikeboydUS

 

Mike, if I am not mistaken you are in the military. How do you think this conflict or possibly, revolution, will affect Syrian-Israeli relations?

If its successful it may improve relations, depending on how Israel responds to any offers. If it fails, Israel will get blamed regardless if they were involved or not. If it all falls apart, like Libya, into civil war, we just might see Israel get involved, especially if the crisis threatens their borders.

Personally I would prefer Turkey get involved if it goes the civil war route. They are already pressuring Assad to accept reforms, so who knows.

The world is on fire. It's sad to think that whilst hundreds of millions, possibly billions of us are watching this Royal ceremony, there are people fighting and dying for the basic freedoms we all take for granted. I salute anyone who has the courage to risk their life in a fight against their oppressive government. I hope they find peace soon throughout the entire middle east.

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Here, this should clear up a few thing for you...

the violence will not end in syria because so many are involved with too much to lose on the line. at least 3 sides in this conflict are manipulating events and pulling strings.

you have the baathists which is the current regime, and iran on one side, currently they have the most control and are doing the best they could to keep it that way.

on the other side you have the people who are calling for freedom, usually these groups are mainly ordinary citizens, but in times of despair islamists and hard liners like the muslim brotherhood tend to cease control over them.

then you have the west, the USA with an agenda of their own. this side has power in this issue, they control mass media and propaganda and have a few key players under their wing, eg. turkey. turkey will be involved as a peace keeping force. the west want to keep the world peaceful for the sake of their economies.

another side worth mentioning is the zionist israelis. those guys should fall under the western flag, because they also want the current regime to fall, but they want to have total control on what comes next because it will affect them one way or another, these guys would force the american government into wars. they believe in total supremacy in order to survive.

in a month or two we should see the following sides fighting on the streets,

- the current regime / backed by shiaa iran
- sunni islamists / anti-shiaa
- NATO led by turkey

reply to post by RizeorDie


I wouldn't be surprised if Syria destabilizes and Hezbollah come in from Lebanon and Sunni Insurgents backed by Al Qaeda come in from Iraq and they slaughter each other. Syria has the potential to turn into 1983 Lebanon with various factions all fighting for control.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by RizeorDie

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Syria destabilizes and Hezbollah come in from Lebanon and Sunni Insurgents backed by Al Qaeda come in from Iraq and they slaughter each other. Syria has the potential to turn into 1983 Lebanon with various factions all fighting for control.

I find it very unlikely that hezbollah will get involved, the most they can do is send specialists to help train the syrians but even thats not needed as iran is taking care of that for both syria and hezbollah.

hezbollah will only come in if israel goes to war against syria and that will not happen any time soon.

I believe this will escalate, so far this is not even a fraction of whats coming to syria. I believe the next event will be a split in the syrian armed forces, they will fight each other and soon after turkey will come in as peace makers

My feeling is Israel would be behooved to stay out of this all together, they have enough problems with Turkey at present, not to mention Iran, let the EU and UN as worthless as they both are handle this or face a possible draw in for further, more "serious" conflict.

Pretty predictable stuff really, just Follow the Pipes....

Obligatory second line...

reply to post by SLAYER69


So you Iran haters all push it to sarcasm whenever someone questions what you type? Somehow I don't believe it's "just sarcasm".