Obama's NEW Birth Certificate proven to be fake hours after release

Yeah it is on the short form. Why is the serial number blacked out though?

reply to post by ZeroPointEnergy

Another good question.

Sometimes there actually isn't a pea under the shell.

Or maybe a bean is there instead of a pea.

Who reads this far into a thread? Probably no one.

Regarding the layers again, because it was argued my PDF didn't have "groups"... for fun I took the "new" birth certificate that is floating around and I printed it out, then scanned it straight into Adobe PDF. Then without making a single change, I opened it in Illustrator:

ZOMG! GROUPS! AND LAYERS!

Can we put this one to rest now, please? This ridiculous argument is being repeated all over ATS as gospel, when it is just a misunderstanding of how Illustrator works.

(My apologies for the funny color - I'm running out of ink on my printer here.)

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2a454f7e9766.gif[/atsimg]

The image is too large. Right click & open in a new window to see the whole screenshot.

I Know why they left the layers in !!

Remember a while back when Obama wanted to outlaw discussions of all conspiracy theories? He Hates the conspiracies because he knows they show him to be the fraud he is!

I remember the day this document came out and not 1 hour later the news CNN was making a Big Stink about how conspiracy theorists would be all over this and how wrong everyone was that now this document was released they can all go eat crow. I thought it was very odd, how they kept mentioning these things repeatedly on CNN and not on Fox.

It was like they were trying to get a message across. It was the perfect setup for the coming disinformation. If people saw the layers the Gov would of course tell everyone oh those are just nut job conspiracy theories and they would believe the Gov because the Gov had already planted the suggestion in their heads!

It was another way Obama could strike back at the people who he fears most.

All these arguments about layers proving the document was not scanned are now totally irrelevant. Please update yours views accordingly. The Star Advertiser said yesterday that the long form was prepared on a computer, not photocopied. I quote:
"On Friday, Obama sent a letter to state Health Director Loretta Fuddy, asking for two certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. On Monday, Fuddy made an exception to state policies regarding the release of birth certificates and witnessed the copying of the original certificate and attested to the authenticity of the two copies, which were certified by state registrar Alvin Onaka, Abercrombie's office said.

Original forms from the time of birth are used to produce computer-generated documents recognized as official birth certificates in the state of Hawaii."
www.staradvertiser.com...

So now all we have are computer-generated documents.

WE STILL HAVE NOT BEEN SHOWN THE ORIGINAL LONG FORM.

We are supposed to take on trust that the information reproduced on computer (note: on COMPUTER - it's NOT a photocopy, as many of us suspected) in this new document accurately reflects what is stored in the vault. Well, I for one don't trust these slippery officials one bit. Because of the problems with this computer-generated document, there should be legal action taken in court to demand release of the original document.

reply to post by micpsi


If you read the letter again. It is saying that the standard procedure is to issue computer generated copies, however they have made an exception for the president.
That is my understanding of what has been said in the letter.

Here is the quote:
"Through that authority, in recognition of your status as President of the United States, I am making an exception to current departmental policy which is to issue a computer-generated certified copy"

So they made an exception to the computer-generated procedure.
So that means the document was not computer generated but photocopied.

Originally posted by ZeroPointEnergy
reply to post by micpsi

 

If you read the letter again. It is saying that the standard procedure is to issue computer generated copies, however they have made an exception for the president.
That is my understanding of what has been said in the letter.

Here is the quote:
"Through that authority, in recognition of your status as President of the United States, I am making an exception to current departmental policy which is to issue a computer-generated certified copy"

So they made an exception to the computer-generated procedure.
So that means the document was not computer generated but photocopied.

edit on 1-5-2011 by ZeroPointEnergy because: (no reason given)

No, this is how it is being spun. You don't believe these lies, do you, after all the glaring anomalies have been reported? It was computer-generated. Mere photocopying could not have created all these anomalies.

This means that it is NOT a printout of a photocopy, as officials are claiming, but a computer reproduction. Some of the information in it could be wrong.

Here's more analysis of this bogus document.
qbit.cc...
gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com...

Only a photograph or the original piece of paper will suffice.

Originally posted by Schkeptick
Then without making a single change, I opened it in Illustrator:

(My apologies for the funny color - I'm running out of ink on my printer here.)

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2a454f7e9766.gif[/atsimg]

ZOMG! GROUPS! AND LAYERS!

The image is too large. Right click & open in a new window to see the whole screenshot.

edit on 1-5-2011 by Schkeptick because: (image size note)

So you are asking us to look at the layers or the document? This is a registration of a baby born in Kenya as reported by his grandmother to the State of Hawaii. I have never seen this before. Interesting.

ETA: After a google search I find it has been making rounds since 2009.

Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard
I'm believing, based on the video posted that there were artifacts in the image that indicate it was tampered with. The next question that comes to my mind is how the modification of the text specified in the video could lead to hiding some secret. For instance, The field on the form for occupation. The video shows the letters "Non" of the word "None" were inserted. What three characters could make up a word that they want to hide?

Another question is the date. The stamped date that was allegedly inserted matches the handwritten date that was not.

All in all, it doesnt make sense. Any ideas?

I could see why maybe the names or some of the other fields would be faked but occupation??? Help me out here with the logic please.....

Originally posted by ZeroPointEnergy
reply to post by micpsi

 

If you read the letter again. It is saying that the standard procedure is to issue computer generated copies, however they have made an exception for the president.
That is my understanding of what has been said in the letter.

Here is the quote:
"Through that authority, in recognition of your status as President of the United States, I am making an exception to current departmental policy which is to issue a computer-generated certified copy"

So they made an exception to the computer-generated procedure.
So that means the document was not computer generated but photocopied.

edit on 1-5-2011 by ZeroPointEnergy because: (no reason given)

There were also people who, after it was released, said they saw the form, touched it and felt the raised seal. Pretty obvious they released a physical form.

Originally posted by Schkeptick
Who reads this far into a thread? Probably no one.

Regarding the layers again, because it was argued my PDF didn't have "groups"... for fun I took the "new" birth certificate that is floating around and I printed it out, then scanned it straight into Adobe PDF. Then without making a single change, I opened it in Illustrator:

ZOMG! GROUPS! AND LAYERS!

Can we put this one to rest now, please? This ridiculous argument is being repeated all over ATS as gospel, when it is just a misunderstanding of how Illustrator works.

(My apologies for the funny color - I'm running out of ink on my printer here.)

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2a454f7e9766.gif[/atsimg]

The image is too large. Right click & open in a new window to see the whole screenshot.

edit on 1-5-2011 by Schkeptick because: (image size note)

So you are saying that you will get those artifacts by scanning any physical document? If so I will need to change back to a non-believer of the "fake birth certificate" theory..... (feeling life a ping pong ball)

of coarse it is a fake it took too long to release i knew it was a fake b4 i even saw the thing

Best video showing manipulation that I have seen:



Total cut & paste proof.

Whoa I finally agree with something ZeroPointEnergy said.

You got it right ZPE, the “computer-generated certified copy” is the certification of live birth initially released, aka the short form.

But see what happens when you try to inject a little common sense into a discussion with a birther? You are now gullible. “You don't believe these lies, do you?”

If you keep this up and pointing out the facts, in a while you’ll be labeled an Obamabot or disinformation agent.

Welcome to the dark side.

If you open the PDF in UltraEdit, switch off hex, you'll see this document was created with Mac OS X 10.6.7 using Quartz to compose it. That is very plain to see. You'll also see generated data, with many images, and MediaBoxes that describe human work areas of the document.

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The green stripy BC has obviously been messed around with. The continued discussion by Obama about this issue just screams to me that this is the government creating a smoke screen. It wouldn't surprise me if the Obama administration had set the rumor in motion at the beginning. Enabling them to pull it out of the bag on a day such as this, a day when the Federal Reserve have their first press conference telling the US that basically inflation is beginning to get out of control and it wont be long before we're queing for gas with a million dollars in the trunk to buy a gallon.

It does not take 2 years to get a copy of your birth certificate. Anyone else can get theirs in a matter of days so how come he couldn't? Because the whole story is nonsense, he'd have needed it to get the job in the first place.

Because most of the population will be watching the royal wedding, america's got talent, super bowl etc no one will have noticed the horrifying real news that's going on in the back ground.. The dollar is screwed.

Obama's real, doctor signed and officially sealed birth certificate has been found and you can view it here...

www.youtube.com...

Even if he really had a video showing his birth some people would not believe. He was born in Hawaii! Get a life!

Originally posted by ZeroPointEnergy
reply to post by micpsi

 

If you read the letter again. It is saying that the standard procedure is to issue computer generated copies, however they have made an exception for the president.
That is my understanding of what has been said in the letter.

Here is the quote:
"Through that authority, in recognition of your status as President of the United States, I am making an exception to current departmental policy which is to issue a computer-generated certified copy"

So they made an exception to the computer-generated procedure.
So that means the document was not computer generated but photocopied.

edit on 1-5-2011 by ZeroPointEnergy because: (no reason given)

What I am saying is the birth certificate was not meant to be computer generated as explained in the letter.
However the evidence so far PROOVES that it WAS completely created using editing software.

Today I will have a chance to look at all of these allegations and put this matter to rest at least in my own mind.