Obama's NEW Birth Certificate proven to be fake hours after release

Just my opinion - Obama didn't want too many people involved with the fake and is good friends with the governor of Hawaii, so he put the governor in charge of producing the fake birth certificate. Unfortunately for Obama, the governor didn't choose someone who knew what the heck he was doing. That's why it got screwed up so bad (for him anyway). I think it's hilarious!

Originally posted by d. duck
Actually, there are much better solutions than an OCR software to ensure that the text is readable. Most OCR solutions are limited in resolution, while professional scanning software has much higher resolution. But that is beside the point. It is not possible that this pdf was generated from a single scan. The original LFBC had a white background (which would have been in the original scan) with the security paper being the stock upon which it was printed. The file released by the White House and presented by various media outlets has a ghosting pattern surrounding the text upon the background. This is not a remnant of OCR scanning or an artifact introduced by Illustrator. For some reason this document was released in an altered state. For what purpose I'm not certain.

Just because it recognizes text does not mean that it saves or represents itself in an OCR fashion.

Why the whiteness?

The scanning process and the opacity used sucked eggs.

You say there are better things out there and you are right, there are!

I'm telling you that most businesses use OmniPage for this type of thing and it's not at all uncommon.

Think of a business, a hospital scanning thousands of docs.

reply to post by mugger


I'll ask you the same question I asked another.

If he showed his BC to anyone before he was elected...

Who was it, and how are they qualified to vet a candidate for presidency?

Originally posted by charlyv
I worked with some of the best paper to disk software in this industry, namely Excalibur, which is used regularly by insurance companies and the government to map graphic detail and produce readable text separated from just about any kind of graphic background.

Exactly, I don't want to name the company I work for, but I can say the same exact thing.

When I see this I think of work, and I see normal.

reply to post by Connector


star for you! Has everyone understood this yet? the .pdf is a hospital production the ocr was used yada yada.

the layers doesn't matter, its still a copy, an original copy the hospital uses for their records.

The nuclear fallout has made us all crazy!

Originally posted by Byteman
reply to post by LosLobos

 

This thread is about the new fake birth certificate. If you want to talk about something else, then feel free to start a topic of your own.

What I say now might be off topic. I just ask for a little latitude from the mods.

What you are saying is this.

A conspiracy thread about the KKK owning liquor stores in minority neighborhoods shouldn't involve race. What you are saying is they are just entrepreneurs.

First black president. First time in history a president had to show his papers.

Come on! One to one! The dots can't be anymore connected.

reply to post by LosLobos


You are drawing conclusions from nothing.

Mccain had to show his BC, which he did immediately. So your whole BCdemand=racism argument is null.

Originally posted by nrd101
reply to post by Connector

 

star for you! Has everyone understood this yet? the .pdf is a hospital production the ocr was used yada yada.

the layers doesn't matter, its still a copy, an original copy the hospital uses for their records.

The nuclear fallout has made us all crazy!

OCR doesn't replicate text. It recognizes the letters and creates an entirely new file in a specific font. Look what a mish-mash of text styles as well as handwriting are apparent. This is not OCR.

reply to post by mblahnikluver


well they aren't the same to me as one is obviously more "evidence" based and one isn't ...there is room for easy dismissal and trolling on one and not as much in the other (ie: this thread).

So as much as the almighty YOU (whoever you are) think it is the "same thing" others may not and thus it is a legitimate "new thread" based on the fact you are not running this show...

moving on:

If this were a criminal investigation all these "coincidences" and "problematic" issues surrounding the birth certificate would be addressed with much high "scrutiny" than a mere "he was hatched here period" approach which seems to be the consensus of those claiming so.

See the funny thing is that those who make the claim Obama was born in Kenya have to prove that claim with evidence. So far there has been mixed bits of trash evidence and legitimate evidence (this newly released birth certificate being one of the legitimate ones as its from the horses mouth.)

Those who say said previous claim is BS, make a counter claim in that same sentence that HE WAS born in the US. in which they are then obligated to provide evidence of that claim. THIS document/certificate from the horses arse err I mean mouth is evidence toward that claim, unfortunately that evidence has a gigantic hole in it.

Because this new "evidence" birth certificate has been digitally altered and been proven so from layers and masking which does NOT occur on single scanned images and only on images that have either been A) created from pieces or B) a single piece that has been chopped up for editing purposes.

Both A) and B) discredit the legitimacy of the provided birth certificate, THIS is what is being discussed here on this thread.

Also I would like to add that if this birth certificate were an image of a UFO it would have been discredited and tossed in the trash immediately because of the OBVIOUS EDITING that has been done...why is this piece of evidence any different?

S&F OP awesome find...

reply to post by mudbeed


Thank you my friend. I do not want to reveal who I work for as well. but it is an F500, and I , like you, had to have a DOD TSC+ to deal with any of this kind of software. The normal world has just no idea what goes on behind the scenes, and rants of conspiracy bring out the want to expose so much, but we are bound to what we signed up for. I want so much for this country to have a better respect for what really goes on, but when it gets like this, nothing can appease them. It accounts for some major depression and sleepless nights. But... we are professionals.

Even if his birth certificate is fake it doesn't matter, not like we can get back the 4 years of his terrible presidency.... Just take comfort in knowing that there is no way this fraud is going to pull the wool over america's eyes for a second time.... If he did somehow make it for a second term I swear I would lose all faith in humanity!

Not sure if this has been addressed yet or not but while listening to Michael Savage on the radio this afternoon on my way home from work, this guy called in to say that apparently the name of the hospital on the released birth certificate wasn't named that until like some years later...I think 1965, yet there it was on THAT birth certificate in the year 1961

How many years did it take to even get THIS FAR with his supposed birth certificate? How about college information...like I would just LOVE to know what kind of subjects he chose for thesis's or essays, or heck how about some information as to what all he did as a Senator in Illinois, or who was his teachers, or ???? Man this birth certificate is only a tip of a very large iceberg when it comes to this criminal.

Here I have a prediction for ATS...I predict that the closer that anyone gets to uncovering the real truths about O'Bummer, the more the race card gets played

reply to post by charlyv


I have a direct 1:1 copy of my BC.
I don't see why Barry would have trouble getting the same.
I don't even have special president powers.

BTW, I love the argument there. "I am the authority cause I use some software, the BC is real and would be accepted in court but I won't even go into it or prove what I say"...ROFLMAO

How convenient that you can just argue from authority (a fallacy) and then declare yourself the authority (another fallacy).

Since you are such a document expert, your opinion...
Wouldn't it have been better to just present a 1:1 copy/scan of the original?

Yes or No.

Originally posted by Byteman
Mccain had to show his BC, which he did immediately. So your whole BCdemand=racism argument is null.

McCain never disclosed his birth certificate.

The purported McCain birth certificates floating around on the internet were disclosed by private parties that had nothing to do with McCain. In fact, the alleged McCain long form birth certificate was disclosed by Fred Hollander when he annexed the birth certificate in his lawsuit against McCain (Hollander v. McCain).

These McCain birth certificates were never vouched by US or Panamanian authorities. Nor by fact checking organizations.

But I’m willing to change my mind if you have the sources to back up your claims. I have to back up mine.

It is very hard to follow this discussion, since it is so lively. I don't know if this has been addressed yet but Kenya was in fact called Kenya on a map of Asia and adjacent areas in 1959 by the National Geographic Society. The British Foreign Office might have had a different name for it but their name certainly wasn't the only name in use at the time. I'll bet most people called it Kenya, even the Brits living there.

www.ngmapcollection.com...

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Originally posted by Newbomb Turk
this guy called in to say that apparently the name of the hospital on the released birth certificate wasn't named that until like some years later...I think 1965, yet there it was on THAT birth certificate in the year 1961

The Nordyke sisters’ birth certificates list the exact same hospital as the one listed on Obama’s certificate, and the birthers point to the Nordyke sisters’ certificates as proof of “a real Hawaiian birth certificate.”

Were the Nordyke sisters born in Kenya too and someone also forged their birth certificates with a fictional hospital name back in 1961?