Obama's NEW Birth Certificate proven to be fake hours after release

Originally posted by arbiture
Enough. Get a life or get off this nonsense. You are all making a dam fool of yourself. I promise as God as my witness I'll will never speak about this again. I'm old and don't have all that much time left.

The Constitution isn't "nonsense". Nobody has a gun to your head forcing you to read this thread, right?

Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3

Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard
You could be. After all, BO is a half-breed. I know black people that don't like him because of his mixed race. Aka racism

Wow, you really have lost the plot. I don't have a problem with white, black, brown, purple, or any other colored people. It seems to me like you're the one with the racial problem. Perhaps you should look in the mirror before painting with such a wide brush.

It has become an all too familiar carefully crafted debating techinique, where if you cant win on the substance of your arguement, then just attack the poster for being a "troll", "flamer", "racist" to try and discredit the poster and inturn discredit his point of view.

Its used quite successfully on this forum

Originally posted by White Locust
If this is all true, that it is a fake, you can bet that the GOP will try to expose it.

doubtful.. They are ALL the same.. ALLLLLLLL

no one who is IN politics is going to do anything.. some will speak up, but no one will lead an investigation.. no one..

I'm just curious as to why there is all this fuss regarding Obama's birth certificate/place of birth. I'm quite sure he is North American, but why would it matter? Is it truly relevant? Surely you'd be better off attacking the policies, rather than the man himself?

Personal attacks are the last resort of one who is determined to argue yet possesses no substance.

reply to post by skull_bones


It's not just segregated (I used the word) to this forum though. It's common everywhere.

Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3

Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard
You could be. After all, BO is a half-breed. I know black people that don't like him because of his mixed race. Aka racism

Wow, you really have lost the plot. I don't have a problem with white, black, brown, purple, or any other colored people. It seems to me like you're the one with the racial problem. Perhaps you should look in the mirror before painting with such a wide brush.

What plot? You asked, I answered. I expressed no opinion of my own. Don't know you, fact is, you could be like people who don't like him because of his mixed race.

I guess the answer took you off guard. Did you really think a black person wouldn't dislike him because of his race? That's called racism. Don't get used to it.

reply to post by Myendica


Well I know you're smart enough to know the MSM, and even the smaller publications are paid and parcel of the "shadow fasci-corporatist political conglomerate" or whatever you'd like to label it.

Even Trump, in all his supposed altruism, is most likely a cog in the machine of putting a cap on this socio-political issue. When you remember, that at the top of the pyramid (where he is likely, or at least an acolyte), they ALL WORK TOGETHER towards a common goal; it seems incredibly suspicious that he would act to demolish that system. It just doesn't happen, and if it did, people would start to die very quickly; as they have in the past.

They are all Fabian Socialists in intent at the top.

Originally posted by DeepThoughtCriminal
I'm just curious as to why there is all this fuss regarding Obama's birth certificate/place of birth. I'm quite sure he is North American, but why would it matter? Is it truly relevant? Surely you'd be better off attacking the policies, rather than the man himself?

Personal attacks are the last resort of one who is determined to argue yet possesses no substance.

It's about the Constitution of the United States, specifically Article 2, Section 1.

topics.law.cornell.edu...

"North American" isn't good enough. Read the link.

I haven't been able to read through the entire 37 pages so please excuse if this has been posted already.

I read on WRH some interesting facts regarding the birth certificate.

In 1961, Kenya was not called Kenya. It was called "British East Africa Protectorate". It was not known as "Kenya" until 1963. So how could it have been listed as "Kenya" 2 years before it was even known as such?

The birth certificate lists the hospital that Obama was born in as "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". However in 1961 the hospital was called "Kauaikeolani Children's Hospital". The name change did not occur until 1978. A full 17 years AFTER he was born.

Very interesting....

Originally posted by spiritualzombie
I would love to collect IQ scores from all of the birthers.

139
What's your point??

I just came up with a clear cut way to figure out if this is all about race or not.

Submit a bill in Congress to strip race from birth certificates.

Then sit back and see who votes no and who votes yes.

That will tell me all I need to know.

Originally posted by XRaDiiX

Originally posted by Rising Against
So people continually ask for the Obama Birth certificate and then when It's produced, It's still rejected.

Sigh.

He didn't release it for 2-3 years a bit suspect isn't it. Deny Ignorance. They took their sweet time to forge his new one as best they could.

He wasn't born in the U.S Why do you think it took him so long to release his long-form its so obvious.

So then the counter point to that is it took him 2-3 year to provide a horrible forgery?

That is a pretty ignorant point as well.

Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard

What plot? You asked, I answered. I expressed no opinion of my own. Don't know you, fact is, you could be like people who don't like him because of his mixed race.

I guess the answer took you off guard. Did you really think a black person wouldn't dislike him because of his race? That's called racism. Don't get used to it.

Yes, blacks can be racist. Anyone who hates another race is a "racist". That's not rocket science. However, asking legitimate questions about someone's past isn't "racist". These questions are asked because there are issues, perceived cover ups, etc. Remember Watergate. Nixon wasn't involved initially. It was the COVER UP that got him. Something stinks with Obama, and my constitutionally protected opinion is that he is a fraud.

Originally posted by skull_bones

Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3

Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard
You could be. After all, BO is a half-breed. I know black people that don't like him because of his mixed race. Aka racism

Wow, you really have lost the plot. I don't have a problem with white, black, brown, purple, or any other colored people. It seems to me like you're the one with the racial problem. Perhaps you should look in the mirror before painting with such a wide brush.

It has become an all too familiar carefully crafted debating techinique, where if you cant win on the substance of your arguement, then just attack the poster for being a "troll", "flamer", "racist" to try and discredit the poster and inturn discredit his point of view.

Its used quite successfully on this forum

Not so carefully crafted IMO. I bet he is not really black. Could be a white birther trying to deflect the "all birthers are racist" charge.

Originally posted by rogerstigers

Why would something be released like this?

As Hal Holbrook said as Deep Throat in All the President's Men says , "These aren't very smart guys [in the White House.]"

Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3

Originally posted by arbiture
Enough. Get a life or get off this nonsense. You are all making a dam fool of yourself. I promise as God as my witness I'll will never speak about this again. I'm old and don't have all that much time left.

The Constitution isn't "nonsense". Nobody has a gun to your head forcing you to read this thread, right?

Quite the opposite. I suffered for the people of my country. I cam close to death twice. I am obligated to respond to idiot threads. I am just growing so very tired. But I will keep it up until this nonsense ends. Or I die. Which ever comes first.

Just grabbed the PDF from the White House website. Tried to open it in AI 10 (yeah, it's old) and get "Acrobat PDF File Format is having difficulties" error message.

I can DL anything else PDF and it opens just fine. Never had any issues with AI 10 being unable to open modern PDF's.

Computer gurus: Did they sanitize the document since the thread started?

EDIT:

Holy Crap! I just tried to open it with my (also old) Photoshop 5.0 ...

ONLY THE TEXT OPENED, THERE WAS NO PAPER, NO BACKGROUND AT ALL.

Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3

Originally posted by DeepThoughtCriminal
I'm just curious as to why there is all this fuss regarding Obama's birth certificate/place of birth. I'm quite sure he is North American, but why would it matter? Is it truly relevant? Surely you'd be better off attacking the policies, rather than the man himself?

Personal attacks are the last resort of one who is determined to argue yet possesses no substance.

It's about the Constitution of the United States, specifically Article 2, Section 1.

topics.law.cornell.edu...

"North American" isn't good enough. Read the link.

He meant American, the guy is an Aussie so he probably just misspoke.

reply to post by mudbeed

Yes anyone who would have done something similar (non Obama related) would have had the same punishment

Of course they would. But if Obama had any honesty or integrity. He would have produced this B.C.

I have a better question for both camps. This is the first time I've ever even endeavored on this debate.
Anyway

When I joined little league baseball my Mom had to write the hospital in Missouri and have my original Birth certificate sent out to California or wouldn't have been able to play ball. If you don't see where I'm going with this
then it won't help for me to explain it either.

I hope noone thinks this insulting. Feel like I'm typing on eggshells.