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Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Advantage
I don't think that is true. Your original birth certificate is never changed, it is only amended with the records custodian, social security office, or whatever state agency. They can never go back and change the original document.
Originally posted by theindependentjournal
reply to post by mudbeed
I did NOT say my link was a hoax, I asked how I hoaxed it?
Originally posted by theindependentjournal
We have had every possible story out of this guys BC possible now. From the 2008 story I posted that said his BC states his name is Soetoro to the fact the one shown says Barack II. It's all utter nonsense at this point!
No problem. Well, for a lot of people it has been closed for years.
Originally posted by ltinycdancerg
Thank you!!! =D So case closed then right?
Care to back up this claim with sources? When did McCain “prove his place of birth”?
Originally posted by tom502
I think it was sick and sad how the racists made McCain prove his place of birth because they didn't want a white man in office.
Originally posted by tom502
I think it was sick and sad how the racists made McCain prove his place of birth because they didn't want a white man in office.
Originally posted by theindependentjournal
Want to know what would convince me? The doctor that birthed him stating under Oath that he did in fact birth Obama in Hawaii, I would drop it at that. And yes the Doctor could lie, but I see no valid reason for him too do so, so that is something I would accept as definitive evidence that the President was eligible.
McCain didn’t “have himself declared a US citizen by the Senate.” A non-binding resolution was introduced in the Senate by a Democrat (Claire McCaskill), and, incidentally, sponsored by Obama, Clinton and a few other democrats.
Originally posted by theindependentjournal
My question on that point is why didn't Obama do the same thing and have himself Declared a U.S. Citizen by the Senate?
Originally posted by theindependentjournal
reply to post by mudbeed
So you want to use math to prove a point? OK I will play...
What does a Birthplace marker in Kenya to Barack's birth +
The Kenyan Ambassador saying he was born there +
Obama's SS number coming out of Connecticut +
Foreign Aide for School in America +
Being an Indonesian Citizen as a Child +
His grandmother stating she was there in Kenya when he was born +
2 years to release a suspect birth Certificate =
?
Originally posted by mudbeed
Originally posted by theindependentjournal
reply to post by mudbeed
So you want to use math to prove a point? OK I will play...
What does a Birthplace marker in Kenya to Barack's birth +
The Kenyan Ambassador saying he was born there +
Obama's SS number coming out of Connecticut +
Foreign Aide for School in America +
Being an Indonesian Citizen as a Child +
His grandmother stating she was there in Kenya when he was born +
2 years to release a suspect birth Certificate =
?
Well what does that have to do with your original post?
Your original source is proven false. Create a new thread with these topics and I will do the leg work to debunk them as well.
F.Y.I. everything you mentioned above has been debunked here at ATS. You can find out the answers yourself if you would like once you create your new thread, I am just trying to save you some of the redicule.
No the original birth certificate would have his name on it that he was born with,I don't think they would change the original document,that means there should be other documents with the name change on them,probably adoption records.
Originally posted by Advantage
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by theindependentjournal
How does that make any sense whatsoever?
I am a birther, and even I can't wrap my mind around that one.
So, when she was married to Barack Obama I, they named the kid Barry Soetoro, but later, when she married Soetoro and he adopted the kid, they changed the name to that of her ex-husband?
When a person is adopted the original BC is changed.. if he was adopted, his name would no longer be Obama on this BC is what some are saying.
Some say he just changed it back when he was an adult and the original before adoption ( if there was an adoption) is not going to be found.
Me? I dont care about this.. other things are happening that pretty well blow this BC out of the limelight if folks would look.
Originally posted by Advantage
Me? I dont care about this.. other things are happening that pretty well blow this BC out of the limelight if folks would look.
Yes your right,we the people are paying for this circus,and all of the clowns in it!!
Originally posted by TETRA.X
reply to post by mudbeed
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Damn it!!!! The government is supposed to be here FOR THE PEOPLE not against its people.