Obama Shows Birth Certificate

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THKS ALL I WANTED WAS FEED BACK THKS FOR NOT BEING A DI*K

Originally posted by FOXTROOPER
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THKS ALL I WANTED WAS FEED BACK THKS FOR NOT BEING A DI*K

1) take the caps lock off
2) passions are high...don't let anything stick to you...the answer was given here and in the other thread. know when you step into birther threads, the flames are roaring all over the place and your gonna get burned

Originally posted by kinda kurious
A delicious twofer. Not only will this revelation FOREVER TARNISH the credibility of Trump, it will extend to the slimy residue of all those who joined in the cockamamie chorus. Most notably PALIN.

RIP Birthers. You ALL owe our President an apology and your false and incessant claims on ATS will serve as a permanent reminder of your intolerance, veiled inferences and unsubstantiated false accusations.

Can't wait to see the look on Orly Taitz.

I have ALWAYS felt the TRUTH can muster great scrutiny. I suspect the GOP candidates are all in damage control as they will be forced to weigh in on this issue regarding previous stances. Gather the videos. Should be interesting.

Sorry to gloat.....not. But vindication is so very sweet.

Hold your horses there sweetcheeks!

Why should "Birthers" apologize to a fraud, liar, and MURDERER for posting an OBVIOUS FRAUD?!?!!!

I read through the thread until I got to your comment, hoping that someone would make a comparison between this piece of terribly photoshopped dreck and a REAL Long Form birth certificate. Just look at the differences between a REAL BC and Obama's latest lie:

FAKE:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/86997f0681d9.jpg[/atsimg]

REAL:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6cbd80b731b4.jpg[/atsimg]

Where should I begin? Let's start with the small details shall we?

1. When typing in the "race" of the parent, clerks have a set list of options from which they may choose: Caucasian, Asian, Arab, Black, etc. They are not allowed to categorize a person's race by the color of his/her skin, etiology of their name, or any other factor. So why, on the "Real" birth certificate shown above is the race of HER father listed as "Black," yet on Obama's FAKE BC his father is listed as "African?"

2. What's up with the way the paper has been trimmed on the left side only? That doesn't even look right at a glance.

3. It should be OBVIOUS to everybody that this fake piece of garbage from Obama is not real. It looks like it's BRAND NEW; unlike the other BC which clearly show the signs of aging in a filing cabinet for 45 years. (Note the date of the copy: Mar.15, 2011) Unless they have been storing Obama's birth certificate in an Argon-infused environment like they do the Declaration of Independence, it would also show signs of aging, even if it was just a photocopy; it does not, and therefore it is a fraud.

This obvious FRAUD was printed in the last few days or weeks. It is NOT a copy of Obama's long form BC - No way in hell. Someone inside Obama's camp REALLY hates this guy to release such an obvious forgery on his behalf. The "Birthers," especially Donald Trump and his very deep pockets, are going to tear into this like a starving dog getting hold of a steak.

And yes, I called him a MURDERER. What would you call a man who orders the assassination of an American citizen without so much as a trial? Obama Targets American For Assassination

I don't care what crime a man is accused of; as an American citizen, he deserves to be tried before a jury of his peers BEFORE a death sentence is handed down, and not AFTER. I'll agree that al-Awlaki is a scumbag, but he still deserves a trial before his life can be taken away with a stroke of Obama's pen. Not even Bush went that far.

I am ashamed at so many of you preaching mainstream bull# and prancing around with your blatantly forged birth certificate.

A great man once said, Deny Ignorance.

I hope he can't see what has become of a community built around those words.

Question everything.
I'd like for one of you spouting off to explain how questioning the mainstream, expressing valid concerns makes you a "loony," "nut," "crazy," etc. Are you capable of free thought, you sound like a media puppet. Calling free minds, "nuts" is mainstream brainwash garbage. I thought ATS members were way past that.


Edit* Great post OldCorp, you really summed up many of my thoughts.

You dont even need to compare it.

The fraud is fact beginning with the letter 'A' Compare the placement of every Upper Case A. All in different positions.

Now compare every lower case 'a' without the shift key. It would have to have been done on THREE (3) different typewriters.

All typewriters have a 'fingerprint' in their lower case letter placement. On every document they ever produce. Remember the Unibomber? his typewriter fingerprint?

Whoever made this steaming pile was an absolute buffoon.


Now Barry can give two peace signs and yell into the camera: "I am NOT a crook"

It got real quiet all of the sudden with the typewriter forensics.

Did I say something wrong?

a birth certificate isnt a form of identity as far as I am aware , well at least not in the UK

He was voted in democratically and has lived in the US , so why should he not allowed to be a US president is there a written rule that states he must be born in the US to be a president ?

reply to post by Shadowalker

being a graphic designer and a typophile myself , I cant actually see any difference in any of the uppercase A's or lower case lettering , the only slight difference being extra weighting of ink on a few of the letters where the keys were maybe pressed harder !

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I think the responsibility of proof lies on those accusing the birth certificate of being photoshopped , proove it has been !

Im really not that bothered since im not a US citizen but why all the fuss over his BC ?
just because you all think he is a non US citizen , why do you think that , and where is the proof!

Surely donald trump would surely be able to pull resources and proove this undoubtedly?

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There is no proof.

The fact he refused to give in to these racists and supply a copy of his birth certificate was given as "proof" that he is not entitled to be President even though he was democratically elected.

Now he's released it, it is "clearly" a forgery to these same people. The rest of us rightly think its just a case of sour grapes.

They were *never* going to be satisfied. Obama knows this and doesn't care what these people think. He's done it to show Donald Trump for the opportunist fool he clearly is.

All this postulating on how the document is a forgery is beyond pathetic and very revealling about the mindset of those doing it.

Originally posted by sapien82
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being a graphic designer and a typophile myself , I cant actually see any difference in any of the uppercase A's or lower case lettering , the only slight difference being extra weighting of ink on a few of the letters where the keys were maybe pressed harder !

And you have worked how many successful forensics cases?

It has to do with relative position of sets of letters that repeat through the document that should
always be the same and are not ! < I did it too !

You might want to study the Unibomber case.

This is what I posted on Smokinggun. Someone had made a post that the birth certificate should have Territory vice State of Hawai'i. This is what I thought was strange and truly.. maybe... a smoking gun

Someone posted that the Hawai'i certificate should say Territory of HI, that is wrong. The certificates do list "State of Hawai'i. His 'handlers' must have used Eleanor Nor***'s posted certificates to create a forgery. Did this come from the hospital or from Obama? I was born in 1966 and my birth certificate looks like it was soaked in tea, this is pristine, must have come from HI, took a long time. The weird thing that glares at me is the certificate number 61 10641.... hmmmm, I am assuming the births are cataloged in order. Well, Mrs. Nor***'s children were born AFTER Obama, the following day... but her children's numbers are 61 10637 and 61 10638.... so on August 5, 1961, they assigned certificate numbers out of order for her children. .. with lower numbers????? forgery in my opinion. Run, Trump run!!

Please see the link/pic that shows babies born AFTER obama were given cerfiticate numbers LOWER than his.
the.honoluluadvertiser.com...

First. I thought there was another setificate on the net that proved thath i was born in Kenya. Anyways. Is it possible that this began as a confusion of the names of the father and the sun. Since the only thing that is different is that obama is obama the second. But if this was nothing they should have shown it two years ago because that was what the voters wanted. I mean you need to have some power since the big funders do

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Please see my post regarding a possible error on that certificate

The Certificate number is systematically formed from this sequence as follows:

It should start in the numbers 151, which is federal code for Hawaii's birth certificates, a dash, then the year of birth, followed by the birth order number.

The Nordyke twins were assigned the following birth certificate numbers to their certificates: ( 151 – 61 – 10637 ) and ( 151 – 61 – 10638 ).

As can be see, the birth order is in sequence according to the time of birth. One Twin was born shortly after the other, resulting in the two birth order numbers sequentially.

Obama was born before both of the Nordyke twins (the day before), yet his birth cerificate number is ( 151 - 61 - 10641 ) -- 3 births later ( 10638 + 3 = 10641 ). Going by that number, Obama would have been born AFTER the Nordyke twins.

Originally posted by Caji316
The Certificate number is systematically formed from this sequence as follows:

It should start in the numbers 151, which is federal code for Hawaii's birth certificates, a dash, then the year of birth, followed by the birth order number.

The Nordyke twins were assigned the following birth certificate numbers to their certificates: ( 151 – 61 – 10637 ) and ( 151 – 61 – 10638 ).

As can be see, the birth order is in sequence according to the time of birth. One Twin was born shortly after the other, resulting in the two birth order numbers sequentially.

Obama was born before both of the Nordyke twins (the day before), yet his birth cerificate number is ( 151 - 61 - 10641 ) -- 3 births later ( 10638 + 3 = 10641 ). Going by that number, Obama would have been born AFTER the Nordyke twins.

Don't you think that if it had been a forgery those forging it would be well aware of this?

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I got a passport, driver's license and security clearance with a short form. In fact, no one has ever asked me for anything else.

I tried to make this very clear when this argument first started. It doesn't make any difference where he was born, because no one with the power to do anything IS going to do anything even if you could absolutely 100% prove he was born in Kenya, Mongolia or Pluto. You want him out of office; I want him out of office. The birth certificate will never accomplish that even if you had one hundred witnesses who swore they saw his actual birth in Kenya. It's really pathetic that you people don't realize how this nation, or the world, actually works. I used to accuse the left of living in a "Tinkerbell" construct where reality didn't matter, if you only believed enough... Well, the left obviously hasn't cornered that market! Go after his pathetic, failed policies, not this time-wasting crap that the Supreme Court wouldn't hear with nine guns to their heads.

He releases his birth certificate and its claimed to be a forgery by the racists.........well who would have guessed that Yes racist because no previous (white) president has ever been asked to prove his birthplace. Ironically enough given the background of families of previous presidents it is highly likely one of them was born on foreign soil whilst the parents were working!

This situation is a classic example of why it is impossible to present the truth to people with engrained incorrect beliefs.

Originally posted by sapien82
a birth certificate isnt a form of identity as far as I am aware , well at least not in the UK

He was voted in democratically and has lived in the US , so why should he not allowed to be a US president is there a written rule that states he must be born in the US to be a president ?

Yes it is a US law that one must be a natural born citizen to be eligible to be the US president. If by some reason one is elected president that does not meet the criteria of the law then all that has been done by that president is can bee seen as null and void.