Do we live in Binary Star System?

Originally posted by Helious
reply to post by ATSecretAgent

 

Nicely presented post OP. Kept it unbiased and informative, ncie job. When you approach it with the message you teach then you can almost see how it could be possible that we have a binary star.

Videos liek the above, however, are just nonsense. When nobody else can prove that this binary exists, the creator of this video seems to know the exact trajectory of the planet and excactly which date it will pass us. Speculative fame gaining if you ask me.

I still think it's possible and there is a lot of interesting evidence. If people could stop making predictions, fictional informative videos and fleeting statements then perhaps this subject could gain some credibility and may even be taken seriously.

As i said, nice post OP, I hope we find out more about this in the coming months

Thundersmurf...
Peace™

reply to post by ATSecretAgent


Wise hasn't found a Brown Dwarf Or Gas Giant in The Outer Solar System yet; i guess we have to wait and see!

Either that or they have found something and are doing a cover-up; or they are just collecting more data for a press release.

reply to post by ATSecretAgent


By goodness, I wish there were more posts like yours on ATS.

A most excellent, informative and useful OP. I like the fact that you are a Binary Star/ Brown Dwarf/ Nibiru/ Tyche/ 'Cyclical Cataclysm Theory' agnostic, and I believe that you managed very well your stated aims of remaining scientific and objective.

In addition, I agree that the ancient prophecies must be taken with a pinch of salt; though in light of WISE's mission, it may be that we are rediscovering something that was well-known a long time ago; perhaps as a result of the knowledge imparted by the 'gods'.

Many thanks for the most intriguing five minutes of my morning so far.

Fly.

reply to post by Thundersmurf


Very good points. I believe that almost half of those nonsense videos are in fact disinformation/ misinformation, sent out to muddy the waters. The other half are, as you say, fame-seekers or delusionals.

There exist a minority of video-makers that are genuinely trying to help people, to pass on information that may in fact help us to be ready. Those are the diamonds in the rough, but unfortunately I don't have the patience to sit through thousands of BS videos to find them. I hope that people who do find such will share them right here on ATS so we can benefit from their patience/ good fortune.

reply to post by drakus


The other thing that happens is that the disinfo agents jump all over the BS threads and videos, generating a false impression of the topic as the sole province of delusional whack-jobs.

It is a serious scientific pursuit and needs serious consideration/ research. The PTB love it when a dangerous topic like this is so extreme that it practically debunks itself - as a result of all the nutters drawn to 'investigate' on Youtube.

Red or Brown? A red dwarf is not the same as a Brown Dwarf. A red dwarf is formed when a star like the sun runs out of fuel. It contracts enormously under its own weight to form a Red Dwarf.

This is incorrect. Red dwarfs are low mass main sequence stars that convert hydrogen into helium at their cores, just like our own Sun. They are less massive than the Sun, but the low rate at which they "burn" their hydrogen fuel means that they live far longer (possibly as much as 100 billion years, which is seven times the age of our universe)!

reply to post by Mogget


I stand corrected, I do believe I got my facts jumbled up. The Sun will eventually swell up to a red giant before contracting in on itself to the size of a red dwarf, expanding again, before exploding in a supernova.

I for the life of me cant find the diagram I saw which shows all the stages the sun goes through once it's finished it's main hydrogen fusion stage.

CHECK OUT THIS LINK
NASA HAS NOW CONFIRMED FINDING A BROWN DWARF STAR BETWEEN THE BELT OF JUPITER AND MARS. READ BETWEEN THE LINES, IT IS OUT THERE. THIS NASA DOCUMENT WAS POSTED FEB 18TH

www.nasa.gov...

reply to post by Helious


Thanks so much for posting that video. It was the most clear and comprehensive one I've seen about Nibiru/2012 so far, and what would happen to earth, and when.

It also explains what NASA seems to be tracking in plain sight, but not talking about.

It also makes me think of the following

1. If this planet is what is periodically responsible for creating huge destruction on the earth every several thousand years, such as the great flood, and the different "ages" on earth, it could be the root of the myth of the "devil" - Lucifer (a light, an angel from the sky) is cast out of heaven by God. The devil then comes to earth to destroy us. Think about it. In a world where most people are illiterate, information is handed down by oral tradition through stories and metaphors, because the human mind remembers stories much more easily than facts.


2. The Mayans, who had a huge calendar cycle, knew about this, and didn't even bother to continue the calendar after this date, because they knew it would cause huge destruction.

3. I've heard stories and seen videos of the Freemason warnings all over the world that warn us of what is to come in 2012, by carving warnings into buildings that were meant to last thousands of years. Itt would make sense that they would carve the warning in stone, hidden but in plain site, for people to see. And it would make sense that that all the powerful people in the world would be Freemasons....leaders of nations.... so when the time was right, they could warn people.

It also makes me think to myself:
1. our nation's "foreign policy"has been so crazy lately....maybe this explains it. Maybe there is some ulterior motive to all this insanity. (Not that it justifies it.)
2. Although I'm not Catholic, I always wondered why the Catholic church (Pope) kept urging people to prosper and keep having children, even if they live in poverty. Well, if they knew that a huge world-wide destruction was happening, perhaps this was their way of making sure there would be enough people on Earth after a cataclysm.

Lots of thoughts are running through my mind....very interesting!!! Thanks for the video post!

Originally posted by Razz123
CHECK OUT THIS LINK
NASA HAS NOW CONFIRMED FINDING A BROWN DWARF STAR BETWEEN THE BELT OF JUPITER AND MARS. READ BETWEEN THE LINES, IT IS OUT THERE. THIS NASA DOCUMENT WAS POSTED FEB 18TH

www.nasa.gov...

So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter.

I believe you may have taken this out of context. Although upon first reading, it would suggest they found a Brown Dwarf between mars and jupiter, if that was the case, you could bet you r bottom dollar that the whole solar system would be outa wack.

The sentence I quoted refers to the missions current discoveries. I think the way it has been wrtten would allow a lot of people to make the same conclusion you made however.

There was a discovery of a brown dwarf at only 100C 75 LY away. Hot enough to make a cup of coffee. This particular one wasn't spotted using WISE. Brown Dwarf Star is as cool as they come

reply to post by nikiano


Another fine example of somebody who is "waking" up and using common sense to perceive the world as it is happening around them. You are very right in many of your thoughts and feelings.

You see, there really is an Illuminati, and yes, they really are the worlds elite leaders and global bankers. Those that control wealth and knowledge control power. These people do not have a very high regard for you and I, nor life of the common man, they serve wealth and crave power, they lust in both and in doing so are inherently evil.

Knowing that Knowledge is power, you wouldn't expect them to share the lions portion with the commoners would you? Of course not and one of the fatal flaws in those that argue the world is changing is that they deny there own common sense and there perception of the world is as acute to the signs, warnings and obvious changes. There are many reasons for this.

Those who are in power have been in power for a very long time, not necessarily the same exact people but families, bloodlines and secret orders. Most of the knowledge that we have by middle of our life we have accumulated from what we have been taught since birth, and let me ask you one thing...... Who has been teaching us?

Not everything you hear is a lie, but you must trust your senses when something does not feel right with the world, you must consider the ancient races of our society and there incredible awareness of the heavens and universe. Most of there every day lives was lived through careful studies of the heavens and stars. You must also consider the warning we have been given and mind you, just the part they have allowed us to hear about and to know.

Never just blindly trust what NASA, or the MSM tells you, don't just believe any Youtube video either but instead thirst for knowledge and afford yourself the only true freedom we have left for now..... Make up your own mind

reply to post by Helious


Dan Brown has a lot to answer for.

This explains why "Nemesis" might be hard to spot. Go to 34:55 and start watching.

There is no doubt in my mind that our sun "SOL" is not the only star in our "Solar System". How can I be so sure of this ? There are some very obvious tell tale signs. The planets of our Solar System are all orbiting the sun on what is called the plane of the ecliptic. This is because a very heavy super gravitational object is in that same plane of the ecliptic gravitationally moving the planets into that configuration. The object I am telling you about is probably a very ancient object. Much older than our relatively young sun. An extinct star which is nolonger emitting any light and is thus a black object on the black of space. Not much to see. Only detectable by its gravity. I suspect that it is probably a "neutron star" perhaps a future if not already "black hole" ? It is my speculation that this Dark Star object is entering our inner solar system once every 100,000 years causing our Earth to enter an orbit around the sun at a higher altitude. Thus bringing sudden and catastrophic onset of Ice Ages in accordance with that 100,000 year Milankovich Cycle. With the passing of time as the Earths orbit returns to the lower orbit thus the Ice Age coldness moderates into the 10,000 year interglacial warm period before a return of the Dark Star puts us back into another Ice Age again. It is my speculation that the Dark Star is on the plane of the ecliptic in the constellation of Leo. Analysis of ice cores drilled in Greenland are showing us that we are about due for the return of full Ice Age. Already the Dark Star is returning.

AVE RAEGINA CAELINA LA DEUS NOSTRA CAELI LA VERA DEUS

Great thread. Seriously this is one of the most interesting and well thought out discussions I've seen in a while. I actually thought of putting something similar together about the same topic. Good job!

The Sun will eventually swell up to a red giant before contracting in on itself to the size of a red dwarf, expanding again, before exploding in a supernova.

My apologies for correcting you once again, but........our Sun will eventually become a WHITE dwarf (the superdense remnant of the core). It will NEVER become a supernova, because it does not have enough mass. The white dwarf Sun will simply cool and fade over billions of years

reply to post by Mogget



Thats a bit of a bummer lol. I always though it would go with a bang.

I missed this quote when reading up about the sun:

After a long life on the main sequence, the Sun will pass through a red giant phase before gently ejecting it's outer layers, ending it's days as a faint white dwarf.

David Levy - Skywatching.

reply to post by ATSecretAgent


I wanted to edit my original OP to correct the bit about red dwarfs only I am unable to now.

Originally posted by ATSecretAgent

Originally posted by Razz123
CHECK OUT THIS LINK
NASA HAS NOW CONFIRMED FINDING A BROWN DWARF STAR BETWEEN THE BELT OF JUPITER AND MARS. READ BETWEEN THE LINES, IT IS OUT THERE. THIS NASA DOCUMENT WAS POSTED FEB 18TH

www.nasa.gov...

So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter.

I believe you may have taken this out of context. Although upon first reading, it would suggest they found a Brown Dwarf between mars and jupiter, if that was the case, you could bet you r bottom dollar that the whole solar system would be outa wack.

The sentence I quoted refers to the missions current discoveries. I think the way it has been wrtten would allow a lot of people to make the same conclusion you made however.

There was a discovery of a brown dwarf at only 100C 75 LY away. Hot enough to make a cup of coffee. This particular one wasn't spotted using WISE. Brown Dwarf Star is as cool as they come

Now I'm gonna have to disagree with what you said. If you read it, it clearly says that the new projects information has been gathered and there is a brown dwarf star that has been found....now im not saying it is tychee or nibiru, but there has been one that they have found using WISE that was never found before. It even says that they will be letting out information this month.....about the results but they wont be giving away the real details until march 2012. If you read the Q and A it pretty much tells you its there and that it may be tychee.

IF you actually read the full article it says "Recently, WISE completed an extended mission, allowing it to finish a complete scan of the asteroid belt, and two complete scans of the more distant universe, in two infrared bands. So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter. "

I think you skipped over the part where it fully says WISE COMPLETED AN EXTENDED MISSION. Plus once they found out this information......WISE was put into hibernation FEB 2011

Originally posted by Razz123

Originally posted by ATSecretAgent

Originally posted by Razz123
CHECK OUT THIS LINK
NASA HAS NOW CONFIRMED FINDING A BROWN DWARF STAR BETWEEN THE BELT OF JUPITER AND MARS. READ BETWEEN THE LINES, IT IS OUT THERE. THIS NASA DOCUMENT WAS POSTED FEB 18TH

www.nasa.gov...

So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter.

I believe you may have taken this out of context. Although upon first reading, it would suggest they found a Brown Dwarf between mars and jupiter, if that was the case, you could bet you r bottom dollar that the whole solar system would be outa wack.

The sentence I quoted refers to the missions current discoveries. I think the way it has been wrtten would allow a lot of people to make the same conclusion you made however.

There was a discovery of a brown dwarf at only 100C 75 LY away. Hot enough to make a cup of coffee. This particular one wasn't spotted using WISE. Brown Dwarf Star is as cool as they come

Now I'm gonna have to disagree with what you said. If you read it, it clearly says that the new projects information has been gathered and there is a brown dwarf star that has been found....now im not saying it is tychee or nibiru, but there has been one that they have found using WISE that was never found before. It even says that they will be letting out information this month.....about the results but they wont be giving away the real details until march 2012. If you read the Q and A it pretty much tells you its there and that it may be tychee.

IF you actually read the full article it says "Recently, WISE completed an extended mission, allowing it to finish a complete scan of the asteroid belt, and two complete scans of the more distant universe, in two infrared bands. So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter. "

I think you skipped over the part where it fully says WISE COMPLETED AN EXTENDED MISSION. Plus once they found out this information......WISE was put into hibernation FEB 2011

edit on 27-4-2011 by Razz123 because: Had some left over info

Ok, here is the full paragraph:

WISE is a NASA mission, launched in December 2009, which scanned the entire celestial sky at four infrared wavelengths about 1.5 times. It captured more than 2.7 million images of objects in space, ranging from faraway galaxies to asteroids and comets relatively close to Earth. Recently, WISE completed an extended mission, allowing it to finish a complete scan of the asteroid belt, and two complete scans of the more distant universe, in two infrared bands. So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter.

I believe you are misinterpreting what is written here. The key phrase is "So far, the mission's discoveries...."

That clearly points to the entire WISE mission survey, not just the extended mission in the mars jupiter belt.

Asteroid and comet census.


Watch that video ^^^^