"Don't Be Alarmed. We're Martians"

Originally posted by Kandinsky

Simonton was accused of lying or hoaxing by outsiders and who can blame them? Spacemen with pancakes? It’s too absurd to be true...

Might just be too absurd to have been made up.

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When they said 'we're from Mars,' we assume that Wilcox was ill-informed about Mars being barren. When other contactees (not the BS artists), said they'd been told Venus was lively, or that there were 10 planets in the solar system, we conclude that the 'contactee' was making stuff up.

Or the beings were smart enough not to give away their real homeplanet and making it easier for a simple man to remember.Instead of saying "We are from the planet Ylidiomph" they said a planet that the contactee was already aware of.If this was an experiment they would want to keep things simple.

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Or the beings were smart enough not to give away their real homeplanet and making it easier for a simple man to remember.Instead of saying "We are from the planet Ylidiomph" they said a planet that the contactee was already aware of.If this was an experiment they would want to keep things simple.

It seems to at least be something worth considering; deception is an apparent theme of the phenomena. Another possibility is that they were studying us from a location much, much closer to home...

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That story of the motorist sounds to me like time traveling. The descriptions of the bikes and helmets seem modern. Our chin straps are not visible when we wear a full head helmet and the motorcycles are bigger, think Harley big. Great story!

Originally posted by Kandinsky
It seems to at least be something worth considering; deception is an apparent theme of the phenomena. Another possibility is that they were studying us from a location much, much closer to home...

Judging from the questions Wilcox reported the Martians asking, the "aliens" knew he wasn't a dumb man and that he was knowledgable. So why would they assume he wouldn't know Mars is lifeless and try to deceive him about their home? However, in the pulp magazines and popular science-fiction of the previous decades, it was common to portray Mars and Venus as inhabited and lush. It is almost as if these beings were playing to expectations, not talking to him about anything outside his areas of expertise, knowing exactly what those areas were.

Quite a story. Looks convincing to me, doesn't appear to be a reason for them to be faking it.

It always does in hind sight, or from a third person's perspective with the reality hat on to completely bin stories like these as they don't fit in with their reality.

Any idea if anything came off the pan-cake research the airforce (or who ever) conducted?
And the last one he kept for himself?

Great post, thoroughly enjoyed the read

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There's that oft-mentioned element of being sort of 'of the period' like the stories that did the rounds of airship pilots fixing their steampunk-style craft. Variations of the accounts seem to have come from places as far apart as South Africa, New Zealand and the UK.

In this case the 'Martians' were sorta 'of the period' and as 60s modern as the airship guys were 19th Century. It's conceivable...

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Its taken a while but it if this thread is anything to go by, then the A+U forum is being revived. what a refreshing thread, something worthwhile reading. I have never heard of these accounts before and boy are they strange pancakes on the lawn and aliens with trays, sounds incredibly bizaar however, how would we treat an alien species? would we not feed it? would we not study its surroundings? would we not converse with it if we so happened to encounter it?

All these things make perfect sense to me but hey I guess I am an alien. I mean considering our temperament as a collective species, what else would an alien do other than keep at arms length (put on the tv and watch the news if you do not know what I am talking about)

Do I believe that aliens landed in a garden and offered pancakes to a stranger - you bet I do, its not the first time pancakes have been mentioned with aliens, take a look below:




An alien is in my garden it landed there last night
Its very round and shiny it did give me a fright
For when I called this morning the door was open wide
and to my great amazement a green man stepped outside
He said hello and welcome and kindly was his plea to come right in and welcome to a cup of martian tea
we had green cakes and biscuits and green jam on our bread
we could have had green pancakes but chose green buns instead
I said "I had better go now" as the time was speeding by
He said "of course by all means, for I too now must fly"
Whilst I watched rather sadly the spaceship flew away
My garden seemed so empty, and suddenly the day!
I have just looked in the mirror its plain where I have been for when I stuck my tongue out I noticed it was green!

Great Post. well thought about without all the doom and gloom.
I am happy to see people taking this in a good light, this made people think and reply.
also 1 or two funny jokes too.
keep it up i look forward to reading all comments!.

thank you for bringing a smile to my face OP.

What I don't understand is many early stories of ufo encounters tend to show genetic sample gathering and the like, along with general information gathering about certain cultural and survival aspects of our civilization (albeit in odd ways by someone whom didn't consider it from that perspective)...along with general psyops experiments (galactic meals on wheels type events) to observe interactions

Now, the psyops type operations I actually have no real problem with (even though those are the stranger / less believable stories) due to that being the whole point...however, the genetic gathering method is the thing that sticks as curious and slightly unbelievable.

If your an advanced race, gathering of such things can be done quite quickly, and the concept of fertilizer is not some obscure notion (plants need nutrents). One of the constants in the universe is that life feeds, and plantlife is no different, be it on earth, or klaatu, or zeta, etc...so the line of questioning makes little sense (unless they were doing a double function of psyops along with genetic sampling.

Now, if the stories were coming from today, the whole fertilizer thing would be met with high skepticism, not because of the debate on whether or not the fertilizer info would be of actual importance to them, but thinking like an alien, the easiest thing to do would be to simply tap into the net and simply download every scrap of information about it to begin with...why ask joe the farmer about his thoughts.

As far as psyops operations of today, well, I imagine they still would go on now and then, however, due to the immersion of alien contact as a almost norm, a global audience at your fingertips, and television dulling the senses...the test subjects (us) are not as "pure" as before and only would serve to show the evolution of psychological impact in a world already bombarding the average person...aka, our idea of weird has jumped many notches since the 60s.

Are these chaps talking insane stuff truely crazy? meh, I wouldn't say that. I would try to understand the actual intent of such an encounter and weigh the plausability (as best possible given the alien nature) of the encounters intent and see what the true motivation was beyond what the non-objective observer seen. Funny how if you step back for a minute, the truely weird makes more sense than the semi normal concepts when you look through the eyes of a possible alien agenda.

Originally posted by franspeakfree
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Do I believe that aliens landed in a garden and offered pancakes to a stranger - you bet I do, its not the first time pancakes have been mentioned with aliens, take a look below:

So, the IHOP (International house of pancakes) may have to change its name to intergalactic house of pancakes then.

I am very disturbed that there was no offering if space syrup and butter however...the poor primitive spacemen