What should we do when we get to a new planet?

I know for a fact that there are earth like planets out there in the universe so it's likely we might go to one someday in the far future. Most likely five to six hundred years from now. This is an idea that has been used by video games, television shows, and movies. But now it seems mor than likely that we as humans will have the technology for long distance space travel sometime in around five hundred years. So I thought it would be fun to think about what us humans would bring to the next earth and what we should leave behind. Our political structure would need to change for te better and technology needs to be enviormentaly friendly so we don't screw up this new earth with fosel fuels and nuclear waste. But that's just what I think. talk about this with eachother and let me know what this plan would need.

Even an "Earth-like" planet wouldn't be Earth, so the first thing we'd have to do is create hybrids with the highest level or most "human" like being on the alien planet we wanted to move to. Even if it had the same air and water mixture as Earth we still wouldn't be able to withstand the diseases and bacteria on that planet, nor would we likely be able to eat any of the plants and animals there. So, either we create a hybrid race to go (which means a future generation, not us), or we find a way to put our consciousness into one of these hybrids.
The best solution would be to scour the many dimensions of space and time and find one with an Earth where Human life didn't fare as well (I.E. no big population boom, or maybe a die off due to disease or other natural disaster), and then move to that version of Earth. We'd already be equipped with most of what we needed to survive there.

First, identify and isolate microorganismic viruses. (Is that even a word?). Make sure we don't infect the planet or ourselves in the process, and don't bring them back to Earth. Evolutionary adaptation must be contained.

More thoughts later, as I have to go get some cigarettes for wifey. *smiles*

Send those of us who stayed behind a postcard.

reply to post by paranormal78


Well the first thing we need to do is study the ecology and explore the biomes of the new world thoroughly. That's about the most important aspect of any new planet. Regarding fossil fuels and Nuclear energy. If this scenario plays out as you described in 5 to 6 hundred years from now I'd like to think we'd have moved on and past such dubious flirtations. Hopefully the idea of some sort of "Prime Directive" would be in force so as not to disturb any sort of potential intelligent indigenous races development.

If and When there is no such possible race found and the planet is Earth-Like then animal and plant life adaptation should begin so our future colonists could survive nicely in their new home etc. With the current rate of discovery and rudimentary exploration of Genetics, bio engineering and Genetic manipulation of plants and animals for such a task shouldn't be a problem in the time frame outlined in the OP.

What if we find a planet inhabited with an Early civilization or culture say around a Megalithic builders period. Should we make ourselves known to them?

First thing you will want to do is go down to the Planetary Claim Office and file a claim staking your new planet.

That's going to need to be filled out in triplicate and notarized so you are going to want to take a secretary and a notary along with you, some carbon paper and an old fashioned type writer.

Your next big decision will be to either stay in your space craft or pitch a tent. I suggest a tent, so you will need a tent.

Regardless of which you decide, you will want a yard gnome for good luck.

Finally it might get hot on your new planet so you will want to take a garden hose, that you can attach to your ship along with a Grazy Daisey and a Slip n Slide.

Of course you will want to take Tang, lots and lots of Tang, because Tang is the drink of Astronauts!

You will want some Snickers Bars too, lots and lots of Snickers Bars in case your space ship breaks down and you realize you aren't going anywhere for a while.

Finally you will want to take along a lot of clean underware in case you have an accident on the way there or once there, there is nothing more embarassing than ending up in an alien hospital with dirty underware on!



So lets review our list.

1. (1) Personal Private Secretary
2. (1) Notrary Public
3. (1) ream typing paper
4. (1) box carbon paper
5. (1) tent
6. (1) Yard Gnome
7. (1) Garden Hose
8. (1) Grazy Daisy
9. (1) Slip and Slide
10. (100) jars of Tang
11. (100) boxes of Snicker Bars
12. (100) clean pairs of underware

Finally remember to take along plenty of extra luggage for soveigneers and knick knacks.

Carbon paper, how profound!

I know:
1) Live the way we would love to live in here; No currency
2) No way we should allow a government dictate what we want
3) Anyone interested in creating such government shall be shot on sight
4) Should be united to create the perfect environment for all of us to live in
5) Exercise those natural "powers" we were born with but yet we have lost
6) Not allow one grain or atom of negative thinking
7) No religion is to be made because there's only one higher power, one creator
8) Anyone trying to create their own religion shall be shot on sight
9) Technology shall be made for the ONLY purpose to better the new planet not our egos
10) Anyone trying to disobey rule #9 shall be shot on sight

Did I miss anything?

Edit: Oh rule #0, the only negative rule there should be is the one allowing to shoot people on sight for rule # 3, #8 and #10

reply to post by SLAYER69


Wouldn't it be really interesting if we indeed meet a civilization in that period of there growth, and in their writings they describe us as gods that came out of the sky which helpped them build things and show them new technology. We would be considered the ancient astronauts of their planet. Almost a history repeating itself kind of thing.

Originally posted by lcbjr1979
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

Wouldn't it be really interesting if we indeed meet a civilization in that period of there growth, and in their writings they describe us as gods that came out of the sky which helpped them build things and show them new technology. We would be considered the ancient astronauts of their planet. Almost a history repeating itself kind of thing.

edit on 23-4-2011 by lcbjr1979 because: (no reason given)

Battlestar galactica finale anyone.....
always thought that kinda made sense.....

Logically thinking, should we in some distant future find a planet habitable to our present biological state one might conclude some form of advanced animal life and of course, surface plant life on land, and liquid water is well in place.

For conditions of such to be present, the particular solar system must have stabilized hundreds of million years before we get there, possibly a couple of billions of years since accretion has settled down to the point planetoid collisions and internal planetoid heat becomes less of a life threat.

I believe life is an inevitable evolution should sustainable conditions be present and stable, so my logic would conclude that some phase of multi cellular animal life would be established on a habitable planet.

Our task therefore should not be a question or struggle of societal hierarchy, our task is to survive and adapt or adapt the environment for our survival. One would trust the proper experts in scientific fields would be on the trip, and the job task at least at first, would dictate little to no freeloaders or power hungry greed mongers among the initial groups.

The question of interference of the existing biosphere? Should not be an issue. It would be the task at hand. To survive. If we walk down a street to Nancy’s Kitchen for breakfast and we don’t have currency to pay for it, then some technological exchange could be a trade mechanism, unavoidably so, otherwise we might just be trying to not get eaten by huge reptilian creatures or squashed by them.

If intelligent life exists beyond our understanding, then we will probably do what they wish us to, if they welcome us, or even care.

Either extreme we would have to resist entering a humanoid society as godlike beings, and work to open lines of communication and understanding that we are here because we had no choice, and don’t have anywhere else to go to survive, unless we do, then we could maybe show them, and watch a good movie sometime.

reply to post by SLAYER69


you been watching tooo much star trek!!



to the op:

he said earth like so that means that gravity and other organisms that already exist there wouldnt be a problem.

the chances of finding intelligent life out there are slim but possible just think about where we live sometimes its hard to find an intelligent person right here.

if we do find one we will be long past the fossil fuel state and more likely to be close the end of a type 2 civilization and then thats where the utopian dream begins.


that is until a big other aliens come to plant their own flags

stating facts and all, we (humans) can't live on every "earth-like planet we find. In fact, we haven't found one yet that's like Earth. Not where we could live on it.

ah, who care's...science sucks, ATS logic rules!!!!

Originally posted by neo96
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you been watching tooo much star trek!!

Well it isn't like a Prime Directive wouldn't be a good idea.

reply to post by SLAYER69


dunno really if an advanced civilization wanted to give us space travel i want it.

i guess tho prime directive couldnt hurt

The first issue would be "where do we land?"

Even if we are dealing with pre-technological societies (that simply wouldn't be radiating any kind of signatures to pick up with sensors) or predatory animals, any landing space-craft is going to make a hell of an entrance that is going to draw attention. Landing in a place that can be easily secured against any hostile entities is paramount. Everything we know to be life has a way of defending itself or something designed to kill/eat it - let's not get naive in our wonderful dreams of space exploration.

The second concern will revolve, largely, around your landing craft. It's unlikely you are going to find prefabricated runways for you to land on. If there are those around - you'll probably want to consider moving on and looking elsewhere, as that world is not only inhabited, but by a technological/industrial species that will react unpredictably. Unless you're in something out of Star Trek - first-contact is ill-advised (this is going from the perspective of a sort of 'colony ship' that just sets out on its own little adventure with almost no contact with Mother Earth).

Either way - you will need to land your little vessel and do so in as ideal of a location as you can find from space. You will want to land near places that have a supply of apparently clean water, likely food sources, and shelter from atmospheric, geological, and other phenomena.

Once you find a landing zone, and safely land - you'll want to begin securing whatever assets you've brought along with you. In all likelihood, you've been using some kind of hydroponics and 'green house' technology to produce food. Get that set up for on-planet operations and begin analyzing the local soils for organic compounds and microbes that can both be used in growing -known- safe food, or could jeopardize the growing of that food.

You would then begin analyzing the local fauna and flora similarly.

While local bacteria may pose a risk - it is quite unlikely. There are countless bacteria on the planet and only a select few regularly harm human beings. Immunities to bacteria are virtually non-existent within our populations - our bodies and immune systems are pretty capable of dealing with any bacteria.

Viruses are also not a very practical concern. Viruses often only affect certain species - and of those, only certain cellular groups. It is quite unlikely that another ecosystem would have viruses that would be capable of infecting us - and vice-versa. It is not completely out of the question - but it is very unlikely - and the present DNA sequencing capabilities do not allow us to easily identify unknown viruses or predict how certain viruses will interact with our bodies. This will likely change over the next century - but to what degree is virtually unpredictable.

There is, however, the "other" category - such as parasites and fungi. Or things like them - pollen in another ecosystem may be particularly irritating or debilitating to us. It could even react adversely with our bodies in ways we cannot predict (perhaps the local pollen attempts to 'merge' with our cells as it would the female cells of its species). Perhaps reproduction is asexual and similar to budding/spores where tiny 'seeds' are released into the atmosphere - and our eyes provide an environment they like to sprout in.

That leads us closer to the "unknown" category - systems or types of life that we simply don't have, but impact us none-the-less. The crust could be rich in piezoelectric compounds and be very seismically active - creating large electromagnetic and electrostatic fields that affect our biology and physiology in unwanted ways.

In these cases - there really isn't much to do but manage the risks you take. You're exploring the unknown - it's called unknown and unexpected for a reason. Spending years trying to catalog everything before you set foot outside of the ship and take a breath of unfiltered air is probably not very practical. Just don't let the whole crew and your head of the medical department run around in speedos and bikinis at the local beach while playing with the local equivalent of a sea-urchin, eating anything that looks edible, and burning anything that looks like wood to cook the ox-lobster over.

After that - you'd want to start setting up home and industry - both agricultural and other industries. Create some documents on the local equivalent of granite attempting to pass the knowledge on to your offspring in the event something catastrophic happens and you can't teach them.

And remember that whatever you do - it's the start of a new planetary society. You're Adam and Eve - especially if that aforementioned catastrophe strikes and all that's left of how you got here and the knowledge of technology/industry lost. Your offspring are Cane, Abel, Moses, etc. Even if the knowledge of origins and technology is maintained - don't underestimate the religious aspect to all of this.

In other words - don't suck as parents - because your teachings will spawn an entire planet of ideals and cultures.

Originally posted by Illustronic
Carbon paper, how profound!

Of course, how else will you be able to take advantage of the carbon nano tube technology which can be integrated into your computer and make it go smoking fast, after all these nano tubes are no bigger then 20 atoms.

Don't forget your microscope in case something goes wrong as you cannot see nano tubes with the naked eye.

There is always a method to Proto's maddness.

Originally posted by paranormal78
I know for a fact that there are earth like planets out there in the universe so it's likely we might go to one someday in the far future. Most likely five to six hundred years from now. This is an idea that has been used by video games, television shows, and movies. But now it seems mor than likely that we as humans will have the technology for long distance space travel sometime in around five hundred years. So I thought it would be fun to think about what us humans would bring to the next earth and what we should leave behind. Our political structure would need to change for te better and technology needs to be enviormentaly friendly so we don't screw up this new earth with fosel fuels and nuclear waste. But that's just what I think. talk about this with eachother and let me know what this plan would need.

Since you happen to know for a 'fact' that there are earth like planets out there, then I'm sure you wouldn't mind providing the coordinates so that the rest of us can catch up & share this ground breaking announcement.

I await with baited breath!

reply to post by Mactire
It looks like in five hundred years we should easily find solutions to these problems you describe. I have no doubt that if humans make it to the point of long distance manned space trips, we should have technologies that aid us in these issues with moving to a new planet.

reply to post by big_BHOY
in recent reports a planet orbiting the red dwarf star Gliese 581 shows sufficient evidence of being an earth like planet. One of the first discovered.