Jesse Ventura is making a joke of the truth

reply to post by sunqueen30


The only way to fix our problemes is to: stand.
TOGETHER.
Without fear of persecution, until then everything stays the same. We seem to stuck on this black road.

I've said it, and I'll say it again...

A) We know UFO groups have long been infiltrated and taken over by government agents. True for any hot topics.
B) Isn't it strange that many big shots of the UFO community came from backgrounds such a secret services, navy, etc?, former deniers now pros?!?
C) Ventura came from the entertainment world, which we accuse of being controlled by TPTB, was Governor, a politician, and we all say here that politicians are puppets... Now that he's "out of it all" he becomes one of the leader of the CT community?

Is he here or getting paid by those we accuse of manipulating people? Follow the money, they say.

He is suspicious because of his background and we should be more critical of his work. Does he have access to whistle-blowers? Did he reveal anything about corruptions in the State he governed or was everything done with complete honesty while he was there? Did he bring new material to the table or is he like a parrot and only repeating what was said.

Or is he only repeating the latest from the CT community on a syndicated show? He wrote a letter to his friends? So? What did it change?

Until he goes Watergate on something big, he is just making a profit from our communal work while serving an unknown agenda.

Remember, his two previous jobs were about faking... ain't that enough for you?

reply to post by unknownman024

If you give enough of everything to a dog, you will be able to beat him and he will let you do it. Because you provide, you are the Alpha.

Same goes with us. That's why we don't revolt. But things would change if we were to starve and lack on essential things.

Actually, if he is allowed to tell the truth, the controlled MSM would not even give him a chance. He would be silenced, just like what happened with Glen Beck when he was about to air an episode about FEMA camps and such. Now that's the truth. Prove me wrong.

Originally posted by pikypiky
Actually, if he is allowed to tell the truth, the controlled MSM would not even give him a chance. He would be silenced, just like what happened with Glen Beck when he was about to air an episode about FEMA camps and such. Now that's the truth. Prove me wrong.

The onus is on you to prove your assumption, you made the claim.

Originally posted by sunqueen30
Tell me people, if the truth is being displayed in a nationally syndicated show with many millions following and agreeing, then why is nothing being done about it? I can give you one reason. Shows like JEsse's CT make the whole thing look like a joke led by paranoid fanatics. It's a 3 ring circus. Everytime Jesse goes "predator" on someone, it is a slap in the face of the truth. Just calling it conspiracy theory automatically discredits it since the term is synonymous with joke. DO you think that TPTB would allow that show to even air if they felt it would devalue what they are doing? It only helps promote the desensitization that will make us gloss over the issues.

and that silly, useless little letter does not change or fix a thing. Jesse has made a career out of conspiracy theories because it is profitable. The millions in his bank account from the show and the mansion he lives in does not fix any of our ills. But it does keep us quiet and complacent because Finally! Someone is doing something. SO now we don't have to. Baaaaaa!

At least hes doing something to get people thinkning rather than bitching on a conspiracy site.

This is your second post on Jesse Ventura, you DO realize Obama - The President of the United States - Is waging a Crusade in the Middle East, right?

Good point, OP and I will see your logic and raise you the other groundbreaking realities brought to us by TRU TV.

Operation Repo
Hardcore Pawn
Full Throttle Saloon
Lizard Lick Towing
Ma's Roadhouse
Rehab: Party at the Hard Rock Hotel
World's Dumbest

Gets a little hard to turn to that channel for any kind of "truth" for me.

More to your point though. Why has even one episode of his show concluded? Why do they just move on to the next topic? I only watched the first season but I never saw him definitively prove anything or change anything or solve anything and yet, each week he just moved on to the next thing. So that lead me to really wonder if he stopped caring about each topic after the episode was in the can or what?

Originally posted by sunqueen30
reply to post by Danbones

 

This has nothing to do with blame. Think about it. How many of us watch that show and then sit back and think, yay, now I don't have to do anything because someone else is?

Did you hear yourself say that??? I'm not to certain about where your from, but whence I came WINNING has a better chance of taking place if everyone on the team gives it their 100%. Metaphorically, You may have the best quarterback in the game, but he ain't nothin without the other 10 guys who protect him while running his plays.

You want something different, your gonna have to put yourself out there, take some risks, and never back down.

Be the change...

reply to post by ThinkingCap


And there are children getting their limbs chopped off in africa. And Mr. Thomas is living on the streets a few blocks away from my office and slowing dying from lack of medical care. Your point is? Am I not allowed to speak my mind on something I feel is important for people to question? Just because there are other, worse things happening? Don't assume I don't know or care about all the issues. You don't know me.

You have people like Alex Jones calling us sheeples, and while I question his presentation as well, the term makes sense to me. We digest everything the media shoves down our throat without question.

You don't think something insidious can't be packaged in something that looks like it would be good for us.

Originally posted by Sinnthia
Good point, OP and I will see your logic and raise you the other groundbreaking realities brought to us by TRU TV.

Operation Repo
Hardcore Pawn
Full Throttle Saloon
Lizard Lick Towing
Ma's Roadhouse
Rehab: Party at the Hard Rock Hotel
World's Dumbest

Gets a little hard to turn to that channel for any kind of "truth" for me.

More to your point though. Why has even one episode of his show concluded? Why do they just move on to the next topic? I only watched the first season but I never saw him definitively prove anything or change anything or solve anything and yet, each week he just moved on to the next thing. So that lead me to really wonder if he stopped caring about each topic after the episode was in the can or what?

edit on 23-4-2011 by Sinnthia because: (no reason given)

Thank you for taking the time to think about my post.

TPTB allow the show to go on the air because they're hoping that people will see him as a joke. He's still getting information out there, and championing the cause on various talk shows. Just telling everyone that watches The View, that 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam for no reason.. a false reason at that, is good enough for me. People need to question the government.

Going by your logic, for him to accomplish anything, there need to be people out rioting on the street because of his show? Calling it Conspiracy Theory nullifies any good it does? Should he call it "Evil America"? Or what? He's only one person, and he's doing his part. You expect him to come to a conclusion about each conspiracy? Would you like him to go out and arrest the elite while he's at it?

Let's just never support a famous person that tries to wake people up, because they're probably all shills working for the government. Let's take a dump on every TV show and person that speaks up, because they were planted there to make CTs look like looneys.

There's quite a few people around here trying everything they can to discredit Mr Ventura. It seems like a vendetta for some. It stinks of the same argument for why Ron Paul is a bad guy. Sigh

reply to post by jessejamesxx


I love Ron Paul, Jesse. I think that man embodies his principles. His character is invioable. I like the things that JV talks about. I dislike the way he dumbs them down. That's my beef with him

Originally posted by EarlyDurban
Are you going to start a new thread everyday slamming Jesse Ventura?

Only when I see something that helps add more facts to my message. I think we should be concerned when a show with so much incriminating evidence does not inspire change, uprising, productive anger. I think we should question why. That is what I am doing.

And I welcome all views. It's the rudeness I can't stand. Please make me think. And I'll do my best to make you think as well.

Notice the amount of threads out to put down Jesse. Its obviously an angenda because he does things, its called research. And they don't like it.

People who would never have paid any attention before are opening their eyes.

As for why they put things out in plain view? There are so many reasons for it, and I have quite a few theories can even pinpoint some of their agendas through them.

reply to post by Unity_99


Unity I promise you I have no secret agenda to spread disinfo about someone becuase they are trying to inspire change. I just don't like to just swallow what the media is shoving down my throat without sniffing it first. And it is my opinion that something is a bit off. If a lot of good comes from his message. Great. But if people don't do single thing because their subconcious attaches images of JV acting like a fool to the message, that makes me question the delivery.

And JV is given a script and plane tickets. He's not a detective or a sleuth discovering all this stuff on his own. What is the agenda of the production company? The cable channel that gives us so many cheesy "greats"? You don't think there is a reason why everything that is a conspiracy is ignored? WHy we aren't picketing and protesting. I think JV is adding to this problem even while informing people of what is going on.

Has it occurred to many of you that maybe the reason why no one has done anything about it is because most people are happy in their current lifestyle? Most people feel safe.

However if your un-employed doing it really tough, and fighting for your survival then your most likely to do something about it.

There's alot of groups out there that create stories to explain why things happen, or why things are going on right now to basically fill in the gaps.

What if the truth that's on the MASS MEDIA right now is not the truth at all. What if its all just a bunch of bull#?

It's infotainment people. The media show's us exactly what we want to see. If the news starts talking about what's really going on in the world they would loose their ratings simply because people will just get bored.

I think the problem is us. Jesse Ventura is an easy target. He's a Media figure. We are just individuals.

If you really want to see change. CHANGE who you are first.

I've seen his show's, and I think any average joe out there would be convinced that all of this is real. The question is why isn't anyone doing anything at all? I think deep down inside we are all affraid of change. We are all affraid of making a difference.

We are still in kindergarten.

Originally posted by Unity_99
Notice the amount of threads out to put down Jesse. Its obviously an angenda because he does things, its called research. And they don't like it.

People who would never have paid any attention before are opening their eyes.

As for why they put things out in plain view? There are so many reasons for it, and I have quite a few theories can even pinpoint some of their agendas through them.

I keep asking what he has revealed to you people and no one is answering me. It really makes the blind defense of him as some great truth teller kind odd. Why cant anyone tell me what it is he revealed that makes him such a hero?

reply to post by Sinnthia


I know Sin. It can get frustrating when people just blindly regurgitate what their overseers want without asking themselves if it is part of something bigger. Or how they like to tell you how wrong you are without answering/reading what you are saying. Don't let it get to you. Even if you think it's pointless, people are at least thinking about it. Look at how many people disagree with me. They disagree so much they bumped my post to the front page so more people can think about my message.

I didn't post this to be popular. I wanted to share something that feels true to me. Because I care about my fellow humans and am tired of us being led astray.

Originally posted by Tephra
They allow it because the show is called Conspiracy Theory. It's not called The Truth.
They want to ensure that all this truth that does appear on the show is broadcasted as a loopy conspiracy nut thing.

My friend, if the show was called 'The Truth' rather than 'Conspiracy Theory', then more people would think he's a 'conspiracy nut', because 'The Truth' doesn't allow for alternate viewpoints, while a theory does
A conspiracy theory, no matter how likely, no matter how much evidence is presented, remains a theory until it can be proven beyond all reasonable doubt, in which case it could objectively be considered truth.