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can someone find one example in history that an aggressor nation was able to do what we are doing without
someone retaliating.. ???
every single one I know of - it's one sided for a while and then the aggressor gets attacked - either ganged up on or the victim state ends up winning that war.
the only reason America has gotten away with it is - most people think we are the good guys still.... they cant accept facts

The difference between a "terrorist" and a "freedom fighter" is determined by who writes the history.

Americans that fought and won independence from Britain are remembered as "patriots." The Irish who fight for freedom from Britain are known as "terrorists."

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Democracy is nonnegotiable.

We are the good guys. The world needs to understand that if they do not embrace democracy they will be eradicated.

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I think America will just kill itself economically. This borrowing and printing may get you a big military but eventually it seems like it has to crumble at some point. Right?

Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
reply to post by ISRAELdid911

 

Democracy is nonnegotiable.

We are the good guys. The world needs to understand that if they do not embrace democracy they will be eradicated.

Yes, defenders of Democracy, such a noble cause.

Yet your freedoms are being eradicated on a daily basis. This statement would have been correct 50 years ago, but unfortunately for all of us, it no longer applies.

We are the good guys, because that's what we are conditioned to believe. Just take a look at Gitmo, is that how a civilised democratic nation should be behaving?

Originally posted by Cobaltic1978
Yes, defenders of Democracy, such a noble cause.

It is a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

Yet your freedoms are being eradicated on a daily basis. This statement would have been correct 50 years ago, but unfortunately for all of us, it no longer applies.

Mine are still very much intact. Just because you repeat statements like this over and over it doesn't make them true.

We are the good guys, because that's what we are conditioned to believe. Just take a look at Gitmo, is that how a civilised democratic nation should be behaving?

"We"? I am not from the UK. And yes, Gitmo is a good thing.

Originally posted by Cobaltic1978

Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
reply to post by ISRAELdid911

 

Democracy is nonnegotiable.

We are the good guys. The world needs to understand that if they do not embrace democracy they will be eradicated.

Yes, defenders of Democracy, such a noble cause.

Yet your freedoms are being eradicated on a daily basis. This statement would have been correct 50 years ago, but unfortunately for all of us, it no longer applies.

We are the good guys, because that's what we are conditioned to believe. Just take a look at Gitmo, is that how a civilised democratic nation should be behaving?

Cobaltic1978, I think you may have mistaken sarcasm for honest feeling. When I read Adabsurdum's "We are the good guys. The world needs to understand that if they do not embrace democracy they will be eradicated" I lol'd heartily. Adab was kinda saying: 'accept we are nice or we'll slap your face' - the exact opposite of what a nice person would do.

and I think Adabsurdum is right on the money. I've come to Realize the USA is the biggest terrorist threat on the planet. I'm not the only one that feels like we (USA) are the Fourth Reich. The puppet masters used 9/11 to unify people against a common villain and to drop the country within a whisper of Martial Law. Bush's masters used a page from their old Hitler Handbook, when they had Adolf shoot off artillery to fake that Poland attacked Germany. everything old is new again.

Originally posted by AdAbsurdum

Originally posted by Cobaltic1978
Yes, defenders of Democracy, such a noble cause.

It is a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

Yet your freedoms are being eradicated on a daily basis. This statement would have been correct 50 years ago, but unfortunately for all of us, it no longer applies.

Mine are still very much intact. Just because you repeat statements like this over and over it doesn't make them true.

We are the good guys, because that's what we are conditioned to believe. Just take a look at Gitmo, is that how a civilised democratic nation should be behaving?

"We"? I am not from the UK. And yes, Gitmo is a good thing.

That's your perogative to believe this.

Have you been following me to state that I keep repeating our freedoms are being eradicated? Help I have a stalker!!

With regards to Gitmo, really? This sounds just like the sort of camp the Viet Con used to keep captured U.S servicemen. I don't know how old you are, but would you have been supporting such a prison camp? Interesting.

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something you never use - does not mean they exist... it is my understanding that over the last 150 years we have cycles, and with each and every cycle we sell our rights and freedoms and they fund the economy...
its like a measured bubble one after another - the only problem I see - its not 1930's - we have the ability to process data. so, the tricks they did back then are so obvious with the use of technology that - well, this time it will be a permanent loss ... no more Mr. Nice Guy ... Lucifer is alive...

Dont Laugh but if we could get everyone to play those patriotic musical scores from post 911... it would stop the NWO cold... I make it a point to play those songs loud and I routinely advertise the Dont Tread on Me banner around my little town. I would say over half of my town are ready to defend it.

Originally posted by LargeFries

Originally posted by Cobaltic1978

Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
reply to post by ISRAELdid911

 

Democracy is nonnegotiable.

We are the good guys. The world needs to understand that if they do not embrace democracy they will be eradicated.

Yes, defenders of Democracy, such a noble cause.

Yet your freedoms are being eradicated on a daily basis. This statement would have been correct 50 years ago, but unfortunately for all of us, it no longer applies.

We are the good guys, because that's what we are conditioned to believe. Just take a look at Gitmo, is that how a civilised democratic nation should be behaving?

Cobaltic1978, I think you may have mistaken sarcasm for honest feeling. When I read Adabsurdum's "We are the good guys. The world needs to understand that if they do not embrace democracy they will be eradicated" I lol'd heartily. Adab was kinda saying: 'accept we are nice or we'll slap your face' - the exact opposite of what a nice person would do.

and I think Adabsurdum is right on the money. I've come to Realize the USA is the biggest terrorist threat on the planet. I'm not the only one that feels like we (USA) are the Fourth Reich. The puppet masters used 9/11 to unify people against a common villain and to drop the country within a whisper of Martial Law. Bush's masters used a page from their old Hitler Handbook, when they had Adolf shoot off artillery to fake that Poland attacked Germany. everything old is new again.

Apologies if I have. Damn I should have recognised this as I thought I was the King of it, especially coming from the U.K.

Remember it's not just the U.S that have been the agressors in recent times. It is the U.K that have followed them on all recent occasions.

Also Russia are just coming out of financial difficulties and China have always sat on the fence. This will change in the next few years and then maybe, we will feel the force of retaliation.

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two things you guys can do - dress very similar to the bobbies... and if they bring "Trungeons" bring little ball bearings we call them BB's but you guys dont have guns so I dont know what you would call air rifle ammo.
been waiting to see the London Police on their arse and BB's will put them there.

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LOL you outted me far too quickly...

Now what will I do with the rest of my afternoon?

Originally posted by ISRAELdid911
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two things you guys can do - dress very similar to the bobbies... and if they bring "Trungeons" bring little ball bearings we call them BB's but you guys dont have guns so I dont know what you would call air rifle ammo.
been waiting to see the London Police on their arse and BB's will put them there.

No, beilieve me since 7/7, they carry automatic machine guns on all train stations, airpports and major events.

Also, they all carry tasers, so it's now an electrifying experience to cross/upset the bobbies. Peace.

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and yall want us to give up our guns.... we are the only reason they haven't started whacking you guys.... were still armed and you guys are our cousins.... even though when this is over - we will be knocking on 10 downing streets door for some back stabbing bs. but other than that your relatives.

Originally posted by ISRAELdid911
can someone find one example in history that an aggressor nation was able to do what we are doing without
someone retaliating.. ???
every single one I know of - it's one sided for a while and then the aggressor gets attacked - either ganged up on or the victim state ends up winning that war.
the only reason America has gotten away with it is - most people think we are the good guys still.... they cant accept facts

Let's see...where to begin...

Sovie Union
Roman Empire
Mongols
Briton
France
Spain
Portugal
Iroqouis
Cherokee
Japan
Prussia
Austria
Dutch
Persia

I could keep going but I think you get the point.

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I can speak for one of those - cherokee.... we can not claim to own anything from our mother. if anything she owns us. the white people took that as a invitation... it wasn't.

Originally posted by ISRAELdid911
reply to post by Cobaltic1978

 

and yall want us to give up our guns.... we are the only reason they haven't started whacking you guys.... were still armed and you guys are our cousins.... even though when this is over - we will be knocking on 10 downing streets door for some back stabbing bs. but other than that your relatives.

I have never once thought or stated you good people should give up your guns.

I treat you all as cousins (well most) and appreciate the fact it is your consitutional rights, despite the odd crack pot. Believe me, gun crime is rife over here, there have been a number of murders through shootings despite guns being illegal. However, air rifles are still legal and so are shotguns.

I do not own a gun of any description, but if/when the SHTF, I will do my best to source one. I live in a nice rough area, so will be able to get my hands on one fairly easily.

You guys do know about Common Purpose and its stated goals - I hope.

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you seem to accept 7/7 was not planned or carried out by your special MI dept. and now they carry machine guns and you dont consider that a threat to your safety... ? I would and so would every person I know. we have a saying never bring a knife to a gun fight. thats our motto they show us submachine guns we show them a sunbeam... they bring a sunbeam we bring a AA10,,, so they dont bother and neither do we. but I call tell you in the last 36 months America has really beefed up its private arsenals just like the government wanted by telling us 911 was a inside job.

Originally posted by ISRAELdid911
reply to post by Cobaltic1978

 

you seem to accept 7/7 was not planned or carried out by your special MI dept. and now they carry machine guns and you dont consider that a threat to your safety... ? I would and so would every person I know. we have a saying never bring a knife to a gun fight. thats our motto they show us submachine guns we show them a sunbeam... they bring a sunbeam we bring a AA10,,, so they dont bother and neither do we. but I call tell you in the last 36 months America has really beefed up its private arsenals just like the government wanted by telling us 911 was a inside job.

Friend, I know how 7/7 was carried out. I know who it was carried out by. I know why it was carried out.

I will never bring a gun to a gun fight believe me. Peace.