Stephen Harper seeks majority to dissolve Canada in favor of North American Union

Originally posted by Maxmars
Well, we know that national sovereignty is the key obstacle to globalist intentions.

Their goal is to have a supranational ruling body of elites, chosen by elites (which will eventually transmute itself into elite bloodlines as we can see 'elsewhere')

This can't happen unless we are all under one yoke.... that yoke could be money, religion, or ideology; three fronts upon which they have failed over and over. These moronic elites and their sense of entitlement must be displaced from power... they are making life miserable for the rest of the world while they feast in their ivory towers.

Right. And the globalists are the international corporations, not any group of liberals who want socialism. Big business has already taken over in America. Liberalism had naught to do with it. I hear so often that big government is not good. Well big business is just as bad and here is the real threat to the world. Remember too that corporations are not democratic. They are top down authoritarian. They are to be guarded against. Thus the free markets that the neocons sell us are exactly those things which will doom the world to a fiscal and marketed dictatorship wherein we all are "consumers" and nothing else.

I smell American propaganda at work here. The Americans need a reason to occupy another country with the rest of the earths oil.

Put that in your conspiracy pipe.

To all my Canadian brothers and sisters, the time is coming where we will need each other. I said this since the start of the global economic meltdown that the best thing that could happen to save those of us here in the North American continent is for both Canada and Mexico to join the United States as either the 51st and 52nd states or as a union of three nations, much like the European Union. Personally I'd prefer they just become states as it would solidify their history as long as the US remained. Canada would still fly its flag as the state flag, as would Mexico. Here is why this is a good idea IMO; The US has the largest capacity for mass production in the short term than almost any other country save China, India and Russia, the US has some of the largest fertile lands for which to fgrow food in the world, and has massive timber and oil resources within its borders, not to mention the copious amount of limestone and other fabrication minerals and ores. Then we have Canada, a bountiful land of oil, natural gas, MORE timber, fresh water and LAND. Between Canada and the US we combined have the largest untapped reserves of oil in the world. Then we have Mexico, wonderful lovely Mexico. Mexico has the highest number of silver and gold mines in the world per capita, and also has vast supplies of rare earth minerals, much like China. The drug cartels would be all but destroyed by American forces once it became a state, the US military would unilaterally crush them with the current Mexican Millitary and since there is no international border the US troops wouldn't have much red tape to deal with.

So in one perspective this union would truly creat the worlds super-power that not even China, Russia, India, or any other coalition could contend with, militarily or resource wise. The US would obviously welcome our two neighbors as our combined economy would become a solid base for growth, the Canadians would benefit from all the rights citizens have, as well as maintaining their sovereignty as a state as all other states; it does nothing but benefit them. The same would go for Mexico, they remain sovereign while gaining all the same rights Americans have, would become safer via bolstered military forces and would have better chances for employement as companies would FLOCK to the new union to setup business. The tax base would also increase exponentially, giving the federal government the ability to start anew and create new monetary policy that WORKS (this is the most far-fetched part of this FYI) with the help of new citizens and advisers. We could learn and gain so much from each other and truly I believe this is the only way the US, Canada and Mexico will survive a collapse.

And for those of you who say " Why not have Mexico and the US become part of Canada?" or vice versa with Mexico? Well that's because the US is SETUP for this type of union, it wouldn't be a total upheaval to Annex the two countries as states. Neither Mexico nor Canada could do this with out significant opposing forces in policy and government.

I truly believe this will happen if the world market collapses, I HOPE it does, I would be THRILLED to have our Canadian and Mexican brothers and sisters join our country and bring with them their history and culture. IMO this should happen, but only when the people are ready/want it to. You cannot force ANYTHING on people, that is against what true Americans believe, though obviously our federal government is not of the same mindset.

Originally posted by trailertrash

Originally posted by Maxmars
Well, we know that national sovereignty is the key obstacle to globalist intentions.

Their goal is to have a supranational ruling body of elites, chosen by elites (which will eventually transmute itself into elite bloodlines as we can see 'elsewhere')

This can't happen unless we are all under one yoke.... that yoke could be money, religion, or ideology; three fronts upon which they have failed over and over. These moronic elites and their sense of entitlement must be displaced from power... they are making life miserable for the rest of the world while they feast in their ivory towers.

Right. And the globalists are the international corporations, not any group of liberals who want socialism. Big business has already taken over in America. Liberalism had naught to do with it. I hear so often that big government is not good. Well big business is just as bad and here is the real threat to the world. Remember too that corporations are not democratic. They are top down authoritarian. They are to be guarded against. Thus the free markets that the neocons sell us are exactly those things which will doom the world to a fiscal and marketed dictatorship wherein we all are "consumers" and nothing else.

They're the same group, two heads of the same Fascist, Draconian, Legion. Saturn/Dark Star group.
Follow the trail of money.

All the leaders are serving the International Bankers, and the Royal Family.

All the cia/black ops and para military underground ptb also are funded by the same money trails.

reply to post by predator0187


im with predator.. i live in alberta too. and i totaly agree with his statement. of course there will be some bad things like our health care sytems will be out the window ( definatley would suck.) and theres other things that we wouldnt want to happen but im sure there is some good that will come out of it

reply to post by predator0187


im with predator.. i live in alberta too. and i totaly agree with his statement. of course there will be some bad things like our health care sytems will be out the window ( definatley would suck.) and theres other things that we wouldnt want to happen but im sure there is some good that will come out of it

Maybe I'm missing something here? What's the problem? We're talking about a union similiar to the European one. Not disolving governments. The Amero looks cool. God knows the. economy could us a boost We're already slaves to corporate interest, and without a bloody revolution that will never change. Our borders are a joke anyways. I'm not too crazy about the situation in Mexico, but I'd love for the Canadians to have a larger interest in what goes on in our country and the rest of NA. They seem a little more sane with their politics.... As far as the queen goes she's cleaning up no matter what the paper work says, and if she really wants to start some sh!t... well, seems like the Canadians helped us remedy that situation once before. As far as the rfid and the such...refer back to the bloody revolution. Could someone clue me in to what the big freak out is about...

Watch out Canada!

Obama's comin for ya.

Every Tim Horton's will become a Starbucks.

Team Canada and Team USA will combine to rule international hockey games.....FOREVER

Your precious Maple syrup will be mass produced and bottled with Flava Flav's lovely face on it, to be served at every Chicken and Waffle House.

Good news is: People will finally take your country serious, you'll finally be able to buy alcohol in any store, you will learn the joy of hispanic language and culture (will finally taste fresh guacamole) , and even add the color blue to your national colors. Thats a big upgrade from red and white.

Oh and every book and magazine will be cheaper! Ever noticed how they always say US 4.95 CAN 7.25?

Ok for those of you who missed my earlier post, I found out that The Green Party is on our side:

“Not only are the details of this new security agreement not being made public, but there seems to be no intention to bring this issue to parliament for debate. Harper continues to subvert democracy on all fronts,” said May.

I also found an article from The National Post dated Feb 18, 2011.

If sovereignty is an instrument to be used to expand freedom and opportunity, then surely the use by us of our own sovereignty to build a North American Community must also be seen as an attempt to create a larger society that reflects our values and priorities. This should be a Conservative and conservative priority.

WOW, what a load.. Sovereignty is an instrument??

With just a touch of statecraft and leadership, it could be about the coming together of our Canadian commitments to both economic performance and social justice with a far-sighted vision that sees Americans and Mexicans as among the very best allies in the world. Who in the world would we rather have as allies and fellow travellers in pursuing the twin challenges of economic performance and social justice?

Now, what do you think of this quote at face value? Never-mind the words, but do you catch the underlying meaning here? It strikes me as odd, it kind of alludes to a merge as opposed to a conglomeration, in my opinion.

The narrow-minded focus on sovereignty as a purely self-fulfilling goal, as opposed to an instrument with which to advance and share our national purpose and interests, is the refuge of those who fear the broader context of visionary thinking

Again, the precious idea of sovereignty is implied as a tool and to see the value of sovereign in itself is considered small-minded.

We have reached the point where our national interests — economic, social, security and the rest — are now best served by a North American Community engaged in the economic broadening and institutional cohesion that generates focus and opportunity.

Institutional cohesion? It can't get any clearer for me. This phrase makes me think that Canada will have no autonomy ... institutional cohesion What does that mean to you?

The article goes on

There will be a huge effort on the part of the forces of reaction, the old proponents of “a little Canada” and the merchants of insecurity and polarization to systematically strip away our will to move ahead. Canadian conservatives across this country must ensure that we do all that our democratic system allows to not let those forces prevail.

Remember, this was printed in Feb... Keep this in mind when you vote, and PLEASE vote! Even for an independent! Make it count this time, we're trying to compensate for the masses still asleep out there.

Food for thought: Perhaps our government did know and used any excuse they could find to throw Harper out in non-confidence? If so why wouldn't they talk about the real reason?

Canada supplies most of north american oil

Clearly they are being supressed...

Time for us to liberate canada...get your flowers ready canada, we are rolling in to save you

reply to post by Mikemp44


Well, why don't you save the rest of us the trouble and apply to America for citizenship? No offense to my American Brethren, however my Grandparents came to Canada, not the United States and I am a Canadian, is it so wrong that I would like to keep it that way?

reply to post by Mikemp44


You said it much more eloquenly than me...
I'm with you. I think this could be a good thing.

Well i live in northren canada. And it honestly feels like were in a third world country up here sometimes. Theres no industry and the rest of canada has forgotten about us. This could be a good thing! And if its not well thats okay because im at least 700 kilometers from somthing that resembles civilization. So hiding in the woods is always an option

reply to post by Invariance


I think he is an American... and as I understand it the NAU wouldn't mean you are no longer a Canadian... No different than the EU doesn't mean there are no more Germans etc...

The Queen shall save you from American tyranny. Thou you will bow if and when the time comes to bow.

on a serious note...

I don't know much of the politics of canada as of late, however, I spent some time in toronto.
I remember people telling me (22 years ago btw) that if the USA would buy canada, they would be for it...not like, just becoming another state mind you, but a sort of unified thing where the borders disappeared, a person born in canada could just pack up and move to whereversville, america with no paperwork, immigration or any of that nonsense.

I wouldn't be opposed to that...frankly, that would be great. I have friends in canada I would love to go visit and perhaps live for a few years next to.

Same with mexico also though, (would certainly solve the illegal immigration issue if we simply bought their whole nation and added a star on the flag)

reply to post by SaturnFX


Yeah i doubt that. Look at canadas immigration laws. Half the people moving from canada to america wouldent even be canadian Get ready for the most diluted culture in the history of ever

North America needs to unite under one banner, keep its individual soverienty of course, however unification on a greater scale is a good thing
Then we can move into south america and give a collective finger to europe

Lets get this new world order (the good kind) going by our free will verses imposed on us by others.

Originally posted by Insipid2000
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Yeah i doubt that. Look at canadas immigration laws. Half the people moving from canada to america wouldent even be canadian

Get ready for the most diluted culture in the history of ever

aka, american culture

I am with you 100%, I love my country, but at the same time, is voting really going to stop this? Is the voting system not rigged, if its not, i'm sure whoever wins is on board with the agenda to kill Canada. Just saying, going inside of a small box and writing which of the 4-5 leaders we are given to choose from on a piece of paper is not going to stop what is to come. Just my opinion though, I won't be voting myself because I have better and more important things to do with my time, but I am for everyone going to vote, maybe if enough people do it, when they try to get away with this kind of stuff people will realize its all a big scam. Politics is a joke, a big game, and it's unfortunate that so many good Canadians are being lied to. Anyways, go Canada! F*CK THE NWO!