Say Hello to ET (92 days and counting)

Hello Seanwalsh,

Originally posted by Seanwalsh
What Is happening

Read this thread from the beginning and you'll see nothing is happening. You may in fact have different questions to ask altogether once you get back to this point. See you then!

reply to post by sepermeru


As I have stated before, the issue of fairness is irrelevant. Once gain you have injected the issue, which is irrelevant.
I neither agree or disagree with you. As your comments, the context and indeed the issue of fairness (an issue you injected) is totally irrelevant.

Bravo, once again, for zero input.


Here is a double eye roll for you.

I do not think that asking them to show up may make things worse another post I was reading he did the exact same thing and wished he had not done it it. He is afraid now I believe they will come when they want to and they do so now so why do we need to ask them to come there already here

Originally posted by Sharonbaron
I do not think that asking them to show up may make things worse another post I was reading he did the exact same thing and wished he had not done it it. He is afraid now I believe they will come when they want to and they do so now so why do we need to ask them to come there already here

The "asking" is for us ... and as said there is no way to say this will even work. The amount of approaches to this subject is mind boggling, and if there can be only one truth - who has it? This is a logical approach to the overall problem: 1) if they show up we know without relying on people's films and blurry proof pictures that they are here. It also would mean they are willing to interact. 2) From this point we move toward getting the doctrinal last word (why they are here), and we will worry about the "how's" in THAT picture when and if part 1 is accomplished.

Just a friendly reminder to the OP. May 20th is a week from Friday, so don't forget to come back and update and let us know what's going on.

I think that many ATS members have not been very kind to the OP.
He (or she) basically wants what most of us want, so why are his methods less important than anything we would choose?

At least he is being proactive in this quest. If we ourselves have not done something like this, then perhaps we should treat him with a bit more respect.

I would like the OP to share a personal story of an event in his life that proved (to him) beyond a shadow of doubt, that
we are not alone on this planet. Then , I will tell you mine.

Originally posted by hiflier
reply to post by atlasastro

 

Hello atlas astro,

My hat is off to you, and I agree this is a fairly good landscape for your type of study.

Yes, it is a good landscape.

I do wish to point out that as a sociological endeavor, an effort by any participant could result in varying degrees pertaining to the quality of one's own self esteem as a positive result of having taken an active roll in helping to solve a public dilemna.

I tend to disagree with much of the above statement. Firstly, your endeavour is not sociological in nature, it is religious. Second, from a societal perspective, there is no deilemma, it is a peronal one!
What you have is a belief, your petition is an expression of that belief.

But, what is important, is the effect it has on ones self esteem of value. Taking an active roll is incredibly valuable and I think your petition is a great example of that. Your endeavour to engage a community with similar beliefs is incredibly valuable in creating collective and shared experiences. These are important to belief formations and the value or formation of faith within any belief system.

Petitions or prayers, especially in a repetitive nature(like your thread reminders or like religious masses etc), help bridge the gap between whats is simple a belief and what is actual knowledge relating to a subject.
In a way, your prayer is a justification for a belief. It will also gives "guidance" to those trying to answer the "dilemma" you present in your petition realtive to a belief in the abscence of real knowledge.

What I like most about your post is that it can create an environment that encourages one to think with some consideration about a belief. This can lead to the formation of a core belief being established in relation to the topic.

And while prayer or the issue of prayer does conote a mythological or spiritual focus,

I am afraid it does conote a mythological or spiritual force.

it could be premature to apply the term WRT the possibility (although not probability IMO) of an Alien existence.

How is it premature to decribe the petitioning something you only believe exists as being anything other than prayer.

In that, only time will tell, for belief has little to do with it other than serving to raise the very subject of ETs to the religious level.

Belief has everything to do with your OP. It is not knowledge to you that ET's are in fact there. You need to "petition" them.

But for all intents I will grant that 7/20/2011, while not a prediction for an ET showing, IS based primarily by the author on belief.

It is obvious that is rooted in pure belief, and not accepted as something you grant upon ATS, I or any other person.

That's why it is directed toward believers and even skeptics. And since all avenues lead to zero this approach, while tried before, was generated utilizing modern communication capabilities to transport it into a world effort.

Your efforts are not unusual, what makes what you posted different, is merely the nature of that which you petition.

As an interested party it does lend and atmosphere of true personal search and involvement which I believe to be empowering.

It is, and it is essential for creating momentum in order to move the belief beyond that of a cult or a joke and into a culturally accepted norm like many other forms of belief. I think that has great value.

And may result in a technique and method of personal action that can be transposed to other areas of one's life when pursuing an issue in order to gain truth no matter what it may be. This is one of the many reasons I agreed to be involved. It is that important to me, being part of a larger idea that could have the potential of bettering the Human condition. The search for ET needs this concept via this event to move ahead from it's present state. The strength people gain from this experience has the potential of propelling the subject to a serious conclusion. This event is the tip of the proverbial iceberg for all the reasons given above.

I totally agree. In fact, what you talk about above is elludes to a broader picture in reation to how the subject of ET's will effect things like politics, economics, and societies in general simply as a belief.
We can see how other beliefs effect our structures in society, if a belief in ET's becomes a culturally accepted norm it may have the same amount of academic, political and economic respect and resources afforded to it as other beliefs do in relation to the study, dissemination, and practice of those beliefs.
The search for truth then changes in scale significantly from a simple petition. So your petition has great value in that sense.

Thank you for your response and the good wishes and much success in your own endeavors as well.
Regards, hiflier.

No problem. Same to you my friend.

Hello atlasastro,

I greatly appreciated your comments and clarifications. It did and does generate a better understanding for me and perhaps others on the matter. I don't know if i mentioned this but I am not a believer myself. I offered my time and energy for the reasons I have already mentioned. The basis for the author's decision to allow me to bring this idea to the public was the fact that I had no doctrine or theory regarding ETs that could become a stumbling block to others. Or for others to create distracting arguments by attacking a perceived agenda of personal gain.

If one thought I was in this to promote some theory that I had or to try to convince anyone of some kind of ET related purpose or motive the Forums would only be focused on that and the notice would be banned. I have absolutely no doubt about this. That's why it states that NO doctrine WRT to ET is promoted. Only the telepathic approach could be considered an ET related issue. Yes, this has been tried before but not at the global scale with the thousands or even millions that may take part. Millions? That could put to rest whether this communication method will work at the level discussed. The world should know one way or the other by about 5:21am GMT.

Hello All,

The 7/20/2011 date, at 5:20am GMT, for inviting ET to show themselves is now only 60 days out.

The whole event might only last one minute. Will it be worth it? As no one can anticipate what, if anything, will occur only time will tell. Is it free? Absolutely! Even if there were to be donations there would be no place to send 'em. In fact this Event is sponsored by NO ONE. If anyone asks for money tell them to take a hike!

This idea is not new. BUT to do on such a World-wide level is. It's for anyone who wants to join in. Do if you wish, or not; because it's entirely up to you. Could be even non-believers will be watching the skies.

There will be the last reminder next month on June 20th, a heads-up a day or two before the Event, and then it will be over. Who knows how things will turn out. Good food for thought and there's plenty of time left from now 'til then to get the word out if you wish to. See you in June.

Thank you and Many Regards, hiflier

Hey...welcome back.
2nd line

Hello maybee,

Thank you!

Hello All,

This is the June 20th, 2011 reminder for the "Say Hello to ET" project that began 4 months ago. There are now 30 days left before the Event. If you haven't already read and understand the Announcement at the beginning of this thread now would be a good time to do so- maybe even a couple of times. It will answer any preliminary question and the rest will be addressed as well.

The timing for this project is scheduled for 5:20 am GMT on 7/20. Time zone issues and confusion can be eliminated by using this or a similar GMT website:

wwp.greenwichmeantime.com...

In that way one can be assured of timing any involvement with the rest of the World's participants. This exercise is meant to be brief but can last as long as anyone who chooses to be involved wants it to. In an ideal setting the entire endeavor will last about a minute. So for all intents and purposes it can in fact be over at 5:21 am GMT. It's up to the individual.

There is no website and no group to check in with which means if anyone does this it will be unknown to anyone else. It costs nothing and amounts to a one minute mental invitation for ET if ET exists to show themselves. Whether anything occurs is anybody's guess but it will be an important large scale maneuver to see if a worldwide effort at Telepathy will have results.

It is at least a step in the process of elimination WRT avenues private citizens can do for themselves on a global level to try and arrive at Truth. Inviting ET is a simple and easy thing to do anywhere while doing anything and the ONLY structured element is the precision involving the time frame.

Do as you wish, or not; it entirely up to the individual to elect either course. There will be a short note issued on or around 7/18/2011 which hopefully will give everyone who wants to do this a last call so to speak. After that, no more reminders, explanations, or anything- It will be over and for the most part I, hiflier, will say any final words I may have on 7/21/2011. So, until 7/18.............

Originally posted by hiflier
Hello All,
"Say Hello to ET"

Hello ET

I like this idea . Much better than desperately wait for disclosure from corrupt governments.

Sorry, but how is this any different from a prediction?

You are saying something will happen and we must just all wait and see, and what will happen if nothing happens?

Will you then apologize to the people on here for wasting their time?

vvv

these guys know something

www.songkick.com...




heading off on summer holidays with your folks on the 20th july by any chance?

Hello VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep,

Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
Sorry, but how is this any different from a prediction?

You are saying something will happen and we must just all wait and see, and what will happen if nothing happens?

Will you then apologize to the people on here for wasting their time?

vvv

These question has been asked several times in the last 4 months or so since the beginning of this Endeavor. F I therefore would like to respectfully inform you that this is in no way a prediction. Neither the Notice of this Event , it's author, nor I, have said that anything will in fact happen. It's a telepathic exercise is based on free choice whether to be involved or not as an individual so chooses. It is an extremely personal matter which is the point. All that I have sver asked of anyone is to read the Announcement a couple of times to understand the nature of it's content.

Hello JohnySeagull,

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
heading off on summer holidays with your folks on the 20th july by any chance?

Hmm, your point being? In actuality as a non-believer my role in this project has been to as objectively as possible keep people focused on the aspects of this effort. I bring no ET agendas or doctrines or personal ET belief system to bear on the subject. My whole reason for being part of this is because I gave my word to the author of the project that I would 1) post it, 2) be available for follow up explanations or questions, and 3) being a non-believer on my home UFO Forum it was agreed that someone with no biases would be the best candidate.

I also stated on my home Forum that I would be leaving the UFO subject behind after this and getting my life back; this has been very time consuming as you can imaging. I have been available for members' questions concerning this on about 20 Forums. It's has rolled into a rather large interest.

Originally posted by hiflier
Hello VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep,

Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
Sorry, but how is this any different from a prediction?

You are saying something will happen and we must just all wait and see, and what will happen if nothing happens?

Will you then apologize to the people on here for wasting their time?

vvv

These question has been asked several times in the last 4 months or so since the beginning of this Endeavor. F I therefore would like to respectfully inform you that this is in no way a prediction. Neither the Notice of this Event , it's author, nor I, have said that anything will in fact happen. It's a telepathic exercise is based on free choice whether to be involved or not as an individual so chooses. It is an extremely personal matter which is the point. All that I have sver asked of anyone is to read the Announcement a couple of times to understand the nature of it's content.

edit on 21-6-2011 by hiflier because: Spelling

In others words it was all about nothing?
Either that or it's just a convenient excuse to explain why nothing happened..

I would just like to say, if beings are coming to help us on Earth, I welcome them. On a personal note, I have friends who need physical healing so I would not disregard anyone or anything that might help.