He is our president, will you EVER grow up enough to accept it?

He is our president, will you EVER grow up enough to accept it?

Nope I'm afraid not.

Originally posted by snowen20

Originally posted by marcsnothere
By the way, I call the RACE card, because if he was 100%white, this WOULDNT be an issue...this is truth

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Truth as you see it from within your fantasy world only Im afraid.
Now that's truth.

Ah, so you have seen Obama's long-form birth certificate. Good for you. But the rest of us have not and therefore we have what you call "fantasies" and what objective people call "questions".

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Judging from the OP's usage of "We", it's clear that he is schizophrenic and is in need of some medical help.

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Do you really think Obama didn't show his when he got a passport? Didn't he travel to Indonesia? I suppose at the age of 6 he could have faked it and photoshopped a birth certificate. Kids back in 1967 were really SMART, huh?

And when Bush was President Librals continued to scream he's not my president!
Hey.... maybe this Myan calander 2012 prophecy pertains to librals!
Something's going to happen and they will have to stand on their own two feet? When they realize they can't! they rappidly die off due to their inability to deal with reality!
Don't worry Lib's...we'll try and save your children! They can still be taught to survive.

Originally posted by marcsnothere


I fully understand that people dont like him, this is not the ?? nor the issue that I am talking about, (im actually bored of repeating myself, therefore, just read the entire thread,)

It's not that i don't "like" him, I just dislike the unconstitutional actions. The constitution is what gives americans their rights to freedom. The constitution is THE law above all laws. Slowly Federal Laws took over, and look at what we have today, a conflict in power.

Congress is supposed to be Above the president and the white house. The states in the U.S have rights to their own laws which is implemented in the constitution, and yet Federal Laws contradicts it.

The constitution is a sacred document written by those who declared their independence from Britain. The founding fathers did NOT want private banks, that was the main reason why they declared independence in the first place, they had a vision and that vision was spat on as the British took over again by infiltration. I was all for obama and "change" I thought he was doing the right thing but ended up doing the opposite of what many people hoped.

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If I remember right Bush said if you don't back my wars you are unamerican!
Five lines and four misspelled words. Jesus, try spell check.

Originally posted by Rockstrongo37
reply to post by marcsnothere

 

I think the birther stuff is simply stupid but your playing the whole race card is just as dumb and ignorant. Keep your comments focused and deal with your own racist issues.

Do people only read the first post, then comment? Read on or move on.

Originally posted by MajorKarma
reply to post by nyk537

 

I find it interesting that you are a Forum Moderator. A perfect example of an impeded dis-information agent. However, let me assure you, I am far from a child, probably better educated and sure as hell woke up about your idol Barry Soetoro a.k.a. Barack Hussein Obama. I in fact voted for the man because he is very likable and I thought he was a great opportunity for change in this country but, you tell me what change he has brought except for more and more of the same; you give us one real example of anything he has done to help this country and I don't mean "An Image Minorities Can Be Inspired and Given Hope By",the fact his he was groomed to be a "Judas Goat" to woo the minorities while he, his administration and their Handlers finished what Bush started; overthrowing our Constitution, Bill of Rights and turning us into a nation of Debt Slaves (the short list). You tell us Mister!

Special Note: I was just given a notice that this (the above) was an "Off Topic Rant"but the comment is still here. One thing I feel sure of, the OP is an Obama Supporter, what else remains to be seen.

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Yes, I am, but that is also a moot point. I dont agree with everything, nor would I of ANY leader.

Originally posted by ThinkingCap
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Judging from the OP's usage of "We", it's clear that he is schizophrenic and is in need of some medical help.

You must not of read my post, on this very thread, of my using the word "we".
owell

Originally posted by RisenAngel77

Originally posted by marcsnothere


I fully understand that people dont like him, this is not the ?? nor the issue that I am talking about, (im actually bored of repeating myself, therefore, just read the entire thread,)

It's not that i don't "like" him, I just dislike the unconstitutional actions. The constitution is what gives americans their rights to freedom. The constitution is THE law above all laws. Slowly Federal Laws took over, and look at what we have today, a conflict in power.

Congress is supposed to be Above the president and the white house. The states in the U.S have rights to their own laws which is implemented in the constitution, and yet Federal Laws contradicts it.

The constitution is a sacred document written by those who declared their independence from Britain. The founding fathers did NOT want private banks, that was the main reason why they declared independence in the first place, they had a vision and that vision was spat on as the British took over again by infiltration. I was all for obama and "change" I thought he was doing the right thing but ended up doing the opposite of what many people hoped.

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And I can agree with a lot of what you just said

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776

Originally posted by DeReK DaRkLy

Not MY President!

It's time for TRUE DEMOCRACY - Let the People Vote...... On Every Bill!

Really? Would you really want to be subject to the vagaries of mob rule? Seriously now. How can you expect much of the electorate to vote on issues they WILL NOT EVEN TRY TO UNDERSTAND? Beyond that, you do realize that minorities would be in hell under a "Democracy"? Do you get that? I must therefore assume that you are a protestant, white male with a high school education. However, even belonging to the single largest voting block will not save you. Women in general out number men. If all the minorities band together and achieve a 50.001% majority, you are then screwed. No, my friend, a true democracy would be an unmitigated disaster.

Great point... well said.

Originally posted by Jordan River
Majority of racist people are white. Majority of ATS is white...

Because I have at least an understanding of third grade math I would be willing to bet that is because there are more white people than blacks, hence the terms MINORITY and MAJORITY, but I bet that if you looked at the percentages it would tell a different story.

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime

Originally posted by SeventhSeal
Republicans are very bitter people. They can't get over the fact McCain lost and now they have a black president.

Will they ever accept it? No because they truly believe he's a Socialist/Marxist/Communist/Nazi/Fascist. Yep, when they believe he's all of those, you know these people are not only crazy, but probably retarded.

That may be true to some degree, but you are generalizing. What about the tens of thousands like me that realize that McCain and Obama are the same thing, they are both Progressives. What is my excuse? First of all, you can't be a communist and a Nazi. Communism is an INTERNATIONAL movement/ideology, whereas Nazism is a NATIONALIST movement/ideology. Communism is at the far left end of the European political spectrum, whereas Nazism is at the far right end of the European political spectrum. Also, a Marxist and a communist are the same thing, so you are being redundant. Look up the definition of fascist... next to the definition you will more than likely see a picture of Obama and the CEO of GE Jeffery Immelt hugging each other.

Your inability to grasp basic political concepts and definitions is just proof of your ignorance, however you are really good at regurgitating the cliche platitudes and talking points of the left, which once again is the pseudo-intellectual liberal standard.

I'm not a liberal.

Thanks for the invalid assumption.

Now you are right that Obama can't be all of those. Sadly though, many Republicans fail to see that and rather use illogical claims to bash the president just for the sake of bashing.

Originally posted by SeventhSeal

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime

Originally posted by SeventhSeal
Republicans are very bitter people. They can't get over the fact McCain lost and now they have a black president.

Will they ever accept it? No because they truly believe he's a Socialist/Marxist/Communist/Nazi/Fascist. Yep, when they believe he's all of those, you know these people are not only crazy, but probably retarded.

That may be true to some degree, but you are generalizing. What about the tens of thousands like me that realize that McCain and Obama are the same thing, they are both Progressives. What is my excuse? First of all, you can't be a communist and a Nazi. Communism is an INTERNATIONAL movement/ideology, whereas Nazism is a NATIONALIST movement/ideology. Communism is at the far left end of the European political spectrum, whereas Nazism is at the far right end of the European political spectrum. Also, a Marxist and a communist are the same thing, so you are being redundant. Look up the definition of fascist... next to the definition you will more than likely see a picture of Obama and the CEO of GE Jeffery Immelt hugging each other.

Your inability to grasp basic political concepts and definitions is just proof of your ignorance, however you are really good at regurgitating the cliche platitudes and talking points of the left, which once again is the pseudo-intellectual liberal standard.

I'm not a liberal.

Thanks for the invalid assumption.

Now you are right that Obama can't be all of those. Sadly though, many Republicans fail to see that and rather use illogical claims to bash the president just for the sake of bashing.

I apologize for my assumption, I guess what you said came across the wrong way.

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true democracy is not even needed..y elect people when most are just winning just on popularity..any government post is a job with responsibilities and accountability..i say screw democracy..simply create a perfect (or near perfect) selection process to find the best people for the job..don't elect...select..every nation has the right person for the right job

Originally posted by marcsnothere
I cant really say for sure if every president does, or even if Obama truely has or not. Was this really said during a debate? Do we have a vid/recording of this? Im not trying to doubt this, but I would like to hear it for myself. I am open to ideas, even criticism.
Thanks for a good post.

Well from what I understand, yes, it absolutely was said. There is a recording, as it originally aired on ABC in Chicago, and then again later in 2005 on C-Span, completely unedited. I would LOVE to see/hear the original. I actually remember reading the official transcript of it when O was running for prez, wish I took a screenshot or something, cause it's really hard to find, but largely talked about on the internet. Here's what one website says about the matter (source at the bottom):

"Can’t find this admission?

If you are looking for this admission in the Obama-Keyes debates by Obama you may not find it. An edited version of the debate - as requested by Obama is what you will find. C-Span did rebroadcast the Alan Keyes vs. Barack Obama debates, unedited in April of 2005. In the introduction to the unedited rebroadcast of the debates, the C-Span host noted that C-Span had decided to air them because of the growing interest in Washington, D.C., in Barack Obama. He also pointed out that C-Span was not airing the version seen in Chicago the previous fall, and which Keyes was to distribute in diverse media on his website; that C-Span had requested from the TV station in Chicago the unedited tapes of the debate, and that only on C-Span would they be aired.

At one point in the unedited second debate, Keyes, accused Obama saying, “You are not even a natural born citizen!” To which Obama immediately replied, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.”

At the end of the airing of the second debate, the C-Span host noted, as he read from a single sheet of paper, placed before him, that the Obama Campaign had contacted them and requested them to point out to their viewers that Obama’s response here should not be understood as a denial that he is a natural born citizen, only that Keyes’ accusation had nothing to do with the qualifications of office of a U.S. Senator."

source: presscore.ca...

Interesting what they explain about C-Span's 'disclaimers' after the airing. I would pay money to see it. We should try to find it. Let me know what you think

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime

Originally posted by Jordan River
Majority of racist people are white. Majority of ATS is white...

Because I have at least an understanding of third grade math I would be willing to bet that is because there are more white people than blacks, hence the terms MINORITY and MAJORITY, but I bet that if you looked at the percentages it would tell a different story.

I think it obvious the majority of racists are non-white. Look at the street filled mobs of the anti-white pro-crime hispanics, praising LaRaza. And look at the Farraklan million man marches. You stage a white pride rally, you will be lucky to get over 50 people. And look at these gang attacks, too many times an innocent white victim, and the gang is usually black, or hispanic. It's super rare to see a gang of whites attack a non-white, and when it does, whoo hoo, major news story, yet the many anti-white attacks hardly ever get mentioned, and when they do, they downplay, or don't even mention race.

Originally posted by marcsnothere

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by marcsnothere
We would like to thank each and every person who seems to think that our president was born on a different planet. So far, you have wasted more time than we could ever imagine on a subject that has allready proven STUPID. Proof= www.factcheck.org...

Just read a thread questioning if President Obama ever exsisted!!!! wow. That one left us speechless.
Let the useless posts begin,, Tell us how wrong we are. Tell us how dumb and blind we are.
WE will simply tell you that you are doing nothing more that hurting a country who cant be torn down, much like you would like to see it. We are much stronger tha you think.

Instead of worrying about your racist insecurities because he is 50% not white, please attend to your inability to worry about real subjects that truely affect us as human beings.
Thank you.
Love,
millions of children...
PS, if you need proof of what WE care about, google it, or just ask us.

Who is this 'we'?

Since so many are caught up in the "WE" aspect of this...
I (notice the use of I NOT we), am speaking for many. Multitudes. A hungry group that is tired. Tired of how people (like you and me.. and we (lol)) blame anyone for anything, no matter the consequence.

You see, while WE bicker, banter, blame, hate, fight, about something so FU#$%ING trivial, millions of children are at school. Millions of children are at home. They watch. They hear. They Listen. Most of all, they LEARN.
They dont speak, for they are not allowed. They have no opinion, so we think. So they learn, and years pass, they grow. More years pass, and then THEY are the ones asking the same questions we are. Except for them, the problems will be more severe. It will be OUR faults.


I am speaking for them as well.

I am not speaking as a democrat
Nor as a republican
Nor as an Obama lover
Nor as an Obama hater

As a person
For my kids.
For your kids.
For our kids friends.
For people who have lost there homes.
Their businesses
Their families
Their happiness.



Read the posts. Nothing is getting better, because we are happy blaming someone else. Yet WE do NOTHING to change anhything. 2 Years bickering over a dumb ass birth cert. 2 years playing the blame game. I'm just at fault as the rest.

We fight just like our governement.

So when I say WE, I'm speaking for those that wont, or cant.
How do WE fix whats broke? Maybe working WITH people, instead of aginst. A pipe dream? probable. Will I give up? never.

And you are the self-appointed spokesperson for these unknown people who you believe hold the same views as you?

My criticisms of Obama, for example, have NOTHING to do with race. I was equally critical of Bush. The problem, Obama is more of the same, just worse, because the same puppeteers are pulling the strings.

It seems as though you're doing the same thing - blaming others, specifically, blaming others who criticize Obama or question his authenticity to be president. It's just a different target for the blame.

But your post begs one obvious question - what are YOU doing to change things?

Originally posted by marcsnothere
By the way, I call the RACE card, because if he was 100%white, this WOULDNT be an issue...this is truth

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No, that's simply your bias on the situation. You have absolutely nothing to back this up. It's cheap to write off criticism and genuine questions as 'racist'...and it isn't going to wash.

Taken to its logical conclusion, your statement also suggests that those who criticize him must only white people, not black people....which is so far from the truth it's not even worth saying anything more about it.

It seems as though you aren't able to grow up enough to accept the facts, and cling blindly to ludicrous notions instead.