Restoration Fathers, the new Founding Fathers in 2012!!

Hello i read an artical about the "Restoration fathers" ,as they are being called (Michael J. Murphy, Richard Mack, George Noory just to name a few). And i was wondering will the tea party have as much to do with the outcome of 2012 elections as they did in 2010? I personaly think what the tea party is doing is great for this country. This artical is not just tea party but about anyone and everyone who is answering the call to restore the American way. More needs to be done to take back our country from the corporate heads that have takin away or rights and freedoms and won't stop until they have everything. It dosn't matter what party you belong to the system is just trying to pit us aginst eachother. we should just drop parties and vote for the best man/woman. but with the two party system it is all but impossible for an outsider to win a majior election.

Here is the link to the artical. It is a good read take the time.

joshtolley.wordpress.com...

reply to post by badgerman24


Glenn Beck keeps talking about the "New George Washington," a virtuous character that will eventually, seemingly inevitably arise from the masses to right the path of our proud nation.

Whoever the NGW is, he needs to get together with these "Fathers." And quick. They will definitely lead him in the right direction. We need the help. Now.

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I hope the NGW gets here sooner then later. We could really use a leader for our efforts.

I had high hopes for the tea party...........till they......almost to a man.....voted to extend the patriot act, to me that means they are just as power hungery fascists as the ones they replaced. When I hear them come out against the war on drugs, terriorsim, out of control police powers, etc.......I will believe it then. They didnt make a peep over these issues.....but could work up a rage over school teachers.........same old BS IMO

Originally posted by badgerman24
Hello i read an artical about the "Restoration fathers" ,as they are being called (Michael J. Murphy, Richard Mack, George Noory just to name a few). And i was wondering will the tea party have as much to do with the outcome of 2012 elections as they did in 2010? I personaly think what the tea party is doing is great for this country. This artical is not just tea party but about anyone and everyone who is answering the call to restore the American way. More needs to be done to take back our country from the corporate heads that have takin away or rights and freedoms and won't stop until they have everything. It dosn't matter what party you belong to the system is just trying to pit us aginst eachother. we should just drop parties and vote for the best man/woman. but with the two party system it is all but impossible for an outsider to win a majior election.

Here is the link to the artical. It is a good read take the time.

joshtolley.wordpress.com...

You probably aren't very aware of how the economic system or political system in this country work when you refer to corporate heads.

First ask yourself this. Do corporate heads have any power to legislate for you? The answer would be no so it appears your anger should be more directed at your representitives in Congress.

Would you, if you were able, forbid corporations from having any access to elected officials in order for them to try to influence them even though this is a guaranteed right laid out in the Constitution by those founding fathers you hold in such high regard.

Who exactly do you consider a corperate head/elitist? Does the company have to be traded publicly on the stock exchange for them to be considered elite or would you also lump in private companies that are large and wealthy?

Is your idea of corporate heads those that are considered rich or wield alot of power in the world such as bill gates?

Are you advocating for the removal of cororations from American society in which case you are condoning the collapse of America.

Sounds to me like your ideology follows more closely to anarchism or communism.

reply to post by kro32


How many of these large corporations would survive if it was not for government grants, bailouts, tax breaks and exceptions? Communism is a lot more wide spread than what is commonly accepted. Instead of the bourgeoisie of communism, we have the executives of capatilism. Same class war, same government funding, same centralised control, just a few differences in how it is implemented.

reply to post by kwakakev

Good point

reply to post by badgerman24

I personaly think what the tea party is doing is great for this country.

What exactly have they done?

This artical is not just tea party but about anyone and everyone who is answering the call to restore the American way.

What exactly is "the American way", and how do you think it has been destroyed?

More needs to be done to take back our country from the corporate heads that have takin away or rights and freedoms and won't stop until they have everything.

And you are going to do this by electing all Republicans

It dosn't matter what party you belong to the system is just trying to pit us aginst eachother. we should just drop parties and vote for the best man/woman.

Which is why every single "tea party" candidate was a Republican

reply to post by lastrebel


I really wish they would not have voted for the patriot act.

I am so sorry but no one on the right, few on the left, and none of the radical fringes like the Birthers or Baggers that would remotely qualify for being bestowed such an esteemed honour.

There will never be new "Founding Fathers", that is a literate bitch slap and it is whizzing on the graves of those great Americans.

reply to post by kro32


You don't seem to realize how things work, either.

Corporatism is the law of the land for the USA. Most of our representatives are bought and paid for by big business, and legislate for their corporate interests. NOT the interests of the American people.

I support keeping government out of business. But even more than that I support keeping business OUT OF GOVERNMENT. Corporate control of this county is exponentially increasing, to the detriment of the American people.

If you say can't see that, you are being willfully ignorant or disingenuous.

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


It is in no such way. It is honoring them not "bitch slaping" them

Originally posted by badgerman24
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It is in no such way. It is honoring them not "bitch slaping" them

You are not honouring a soul by introducing morons and azzhats like Palin, Bachman into this category.

The world has already established our new founding fathers,did you miss it?

Chris Mathews,Joe Scarbough Bill Maher and Rachel Maddow.

reply to post by Immortalgemini527


I would never consider anything bill said as a source.

Originally posted by badgerman24
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I would never consider anything bill said as a source.

Are you really serious?

reply to post by Immortalgemini527


Media cattle are not our new Founding Fathers!

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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Media cattle are not our new Founding Fathers!

Not media cattle. Just the 4 fathers above...our new millennium founding fathers of the 21st century. Just deal with it,we have a new democratic Black President and new founding fathers, just except change, Its not that hard.

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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Media cattle are not our new Founding Fathers!

Not media cattle. Just the 4 fathers above...our new millennium founding fathers of the 21st century. Just deal with it,we have a new democratic Black President and new founding fathers, just except change, Its not that hard.

None of those media cattle represents you, I or anyone here but are protective of their paycheques!

reply to post by Immortalgemini527


YES! Bill Maher is an idiot