Why are shadow people suddenly acting so strangely

I watched a documentary on 2012 on Netflix yesterday, in which the narrator was talking about the Hopi indians believing that the veil between our world and the next was coming down in 2012. Perhaps that could help explain the strange activity? I'm sure if we, on this side, are noticing differences, isn't it possible (dare I say more likely) that they can notice changes happening on their side as well?

Truthseeker1984: Could you also send me a U2U of your experiences? I tend to concur with your views on the subject...

I haven't had a chance to go through all the posts yet... If it hasn't been suggested, try this:
-If your white, go to a black country or neighborhood... and see if that changes anything.
-vice-versa.

-try different neighborhoods of the same race persuasion- you know, where ppl revert to different clothing trends. A person who is out of the ordinary will be easier to spot then.

These should indicate something for your investigation.

Originally posted by awakeningsandman
reply to post by truthseeker1984

 

If you want to get video use a magneticfield camera, infered camera, or static field sensers. infered works barely. the other two are jest a theory but i suspect a good result from a static field senser. I don't mes with vids or picts. but i do know a thing or two.

If I had a few extra grand laying around, I'd spring for a very nice magnetic field camera. It's on my wish list. I haven't had any luck with the infrared spectrum either, and I've only heard of very limited results from other paranormal researches. Stereotypical paranormal phenomena can be captured using standard infrared cameras, with some pretty decent results. These Shadow Beings don't show up at all. This also adds to the intrigue of the case.

What we know is that some people can see them straight on, in the visible light spectrum, yet cameras cannot. Some people see them out of the corners of their eyes. This could be attributed to a hundred different things. The people that see them straight on are the people that I am most interested in at this point. I have a theory that if they do obey certain physical laws, as has been observed before, then perhaps they could be hanging out in magnetic fields, which aren't visible to the naked eye, unless you have iron filings to form into the magnetic fields. Perhaps by laying down iron filings on the ground during an encounter, one could produce visible magnetic fields? It's worth a shot. If ghostly footprints and handprints can turn up in simple baking flour, then perhaps iron filings are what we need to prove that they are hanging out in the magnetic spectrum.

I think I'm going to check out some science wholesalers and see if I can get a couple pounds of iron filings. I've got some work to do.




Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

Originally posted by kingcaii
I watched a documentary on 2012 on Netflix yesterday, in which the narrator was talking about the Hopi indians believing that the veil between our world and the next was coming down in 2012. Perhaps that could help explain the strange activity? I'm sure if we, on this side, are noticing differences, isn't it possible (dare I say more likely) that they can notice changes happening on their side as well?

Truthseeker1984: Could you also send me a U2U of your experiences? I tend to concur with your views on the subject...

kingcaii, you can find what I posted on page 5 I believe. I also added the three classifications that people typically see when they have these sorts of encounters.


Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

reply to post by ZombieFinny


Point at the "hat man" as if to say "you there". Then maybe just smile at him to make the atmos calm. After that why not try to hold out some paper and a pen/pencil?. You said they use doors ect, so they could know how to write.
Just try it, it's worth a shot.
Also dont you think his face looks very pointy?.

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i don't think he'll write but i'll try it if you want...
and as for the pointy face... i haven't noticed that... the hat man appears to be square jawed (kind of like brad pitt) but maybe, like humans, they have different shaped faces... bearing this in mind i'll try and get a better look at some regular shadow people and see if i can spot some subtle differences.

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Do you always see them in the same place, or the same room? Like I said before, the most logical explanation for it is infrasound wave interference.

Human Reaction to Infrasound

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It would be nice if you could try my idea thanks. By "pointy face" i meant......it's hard to explain like his face kind of just forward from his body.

reply to post by Griffo


i posted a summary of most things i've found about them so far on page 14... i'd advise everyone to check it out

but to answer your question directly. no, they appear everywhere and anywhere. they appear in daytime and in public places, these are in my opinion not ghouls or ghosts or night things that spook you. These appear to play (ALMOST entirely) by their own rules, and aren't bound by mythology, prayer or even will


also someone earlier said about ouija boarding... i tried it with some friends a while back and had no luck. in my opinion i don't believe in it.

Originally posted by Griffo
reply to post by ZombieFinny

 

Do you always see them in the same place, or the same room? Like I said before, the most logical explanation for it is infrasound wave interference.

Human Reaction to Infrasound

Griffo,

I found the information in infrasound quite interesting. My question is this: can infrasound be naturally produced in nature, and is there a wavelength that occurs outside of man-made machines that resonates with the human eyes? Infrasound may account for some of the modern cases, but the cases that go back to the pre-industrial revolution (and they're out there, you just have to look for them) are interesting if they didn't happened due to infrasound.

I appreciate the information that you have brought forward. It's nice to have another angle to look at a topic with.


edit to clarify

I have seen all the ways that infrasound can be produced naturally, and being a musician, I know about some of these concepts, but what in nature can produce the exact frequency that can resonate with human eyes? I should have been more clear in my query.

Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

reply to post by ZombieFinny


I've been playing both sides of the fence on this topic. Even though I enjoy the speculation/discussion, I haven't had a valid experience. I suggested the audio sample.

If you've seen other posts they say "Cameras and video don't work, they can only be seen by the eye". Cameras don't work the same as eyes. Using this logic, you can't hear them so try recording audio. Audio recorders don't work the same way as an ear. Some people have mentioned that their animals react, even my dog barks sometimes for no reason. Animals hear things we don't, so if you can manipulate the audio to different tones/levels (same goes for visual recording) you may pick something up.

While this isn't something I explore due to not having the foundation, my buddy meets with a group of "ghostbusters" (as I call him) that do cleansings, site visits, and investigations. He had me listen to some of his audio that he's collected from different "haunts" and it was interesting to hear what sounded like phrases/words (obviously distorted). As I said earlier, be open to speaking to people in your area that invest the time/resources into this. They may investigate your situation just for the sake of doing it. You claim this is happening to you, I'm just offering objective feedback.

Don't be closed to the options of speaking with people in the medical/spiritual fields to get constructive feedback from multiple avenues.

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hmm what youre talking about reminds me of a plague doctor, maybe you're seeing a deceased one and just due to the similarities it seems like a hat man.



the appear to me to have the build of a skinny human... nothing too abnormal (besides the way they move... which just seems unnatural)

Originally posted by truthseeker1984

Originally posted by awakeningsandman
reply to post by truthseeker1984

 

If you want to get video use a magneticfield camera, infered camera, or static field sensers. infered works barely. the other two are jest a theory but i suspect a good result from a static field senser. I don't mes with vids or picts. but i do know a thing or two.

If I had a few extra grand laying around, I'd spring for a very nice magnetic field camera. It's on my wish list.

On my wish list as well. And good idea about the iron fileings, I'll have to try that as well. What made me think of a magnetic field camera is that whenever they are around in my house I get some electrical interference. I have a lot of unshield highend electronics, and they all get a bit twichy when the shaddows move. Made me think magnetic field or electron cloud, "that's why i sugested a good static senser". Would be evidence of electron cloud though not video.

Originally posted by ncoic
reply to post by ZombieFinny

 

Don't be closed to the options of speaking with people in the medical/spiritual fields to get constructive feedback from multiple avenues.

the family friend i keep speaking of is a parapsychologist with a degree in psychology (so she's in a good position to tell me whether i'm crazy or not... she says i'm not)
she also told me not to get anyone outside involve as she doesn't know what the shadow people are doing and she doesn't want them to be offended.

she's rather well known (and respected) in both fields... but she would rather i didn't give her name and details out over the internet. She's emailed a few of her colleagues asking if they know what's going on after, during a telephone conversation with a colleague she found that there have been other people saying that the shadow people are acting stangely...

i will post as much of the info that she gets in her reply's, as she allows me to.

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I wonder if then there is either a mental, or actual physical optical condition that makes one believe they seen these things
such as low light conditions, certain types of fields turning the sparklys (those neat little dots you sometimes see when looking at a blank surface) into what appear to be shadow people...

That would account for seeing something, but not being able to film it.

Of course anyone with this somewhat unique condition, with no reference beyond "your nuts" would choose a different option, and hearing other people speaking of the same experience (condition), they start to put together not just a potential reality of what it is they see, but start to even create a bit of a mythos about it.

such as, this condition may become adgatated around powerlines...and that + dimmed room = "swarms" of shadow people...etc

just putting that out as a likely possibility.

As far as the whole "shadow people" concept..I actually have no problem in it...I just want proof before I believe it to be real of course, however, the concept of other things living here on the dustball with us that we are currently unaware of is not some mindblowing concept to me...interesting no less, just as interesting as finding pixies or elves deep in some forgotten and ignored forest...
historical precidence? sure...but no pixie bones found, no elven ruins found, nor a corpse of a shadow person come across to date...
So, trick is to work to get some evidence...then who knows...if we find out its medical, a treatment can be made available, and if its found out to be a different species, then perhaps some tech developed to sense and communicate (if they are intelligent) with the beings...get them paying some damn taxes also!...damn freeloaders.

No one knows me on here so I can't be taken for a nut in real life.
When i was a child. I think I was around 10 years old. I remember odd things happening to me. Well not happening to me, but happening around me. This could have happened a lot but I don't remember much before it. Sometimes when I was laid in bed i would lay facing the wall. I had a loft conversion bedroom. I remember having that feeling where you kind of look at the wall and start to daydream. After a while I remember kind of snapping back from daydreaming, and looking over at the staircase that lead up to my room. I am sure somethimes there was a man in a hat stood near the top of the stairs behind the rail. His hat was like something Michael Jackson would wear. But the man was wavy like smoke. Very dark smoke. His face seemed to jutt forward from his body like it was past the rail but his body was behind. He would just look at me for ages. Since then i feel like people are watching me sometimes when I sleep. Like they are at the window and right next to my bed. I always expect a head to come over me lol. But I think thats just my fear of the dark.
Please don't mock me or my story. I joined ATS to speak about things i cant with my friends.

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don't worry we wont 'mock' you
if you read the other posts in the thread most of us believe in shadow people... and are very intrigued about what they are and concerned about why they're acting strangely.

WTF are you talking about? You refer to these... "shadow people" as if we are supposed to know what you are talking about. Like you are talking about seeing something as normal as airplanes in the sky. If you are seeing vibrating, incorporeal shadow figures every day, you might want to admit yourself to a psych ward. You probably have schizophrenia.

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yet another spouts schizophrenia. if you have read the thred it has been said many times by fools like you NO SUCH THING AS GROOP SCHIZOPHRENI!!!

Originally posted by OrphenFire
WTF are you talking about? You refer to these... "shadow people" as if we are supposed to know what you are talking about. Like you are talking about seeing something as normal as airplanes in the sky. If you are seeing vibrating, incorporeal shadow figures every day, you might want to admit yourself to a psych ward. You probably have schizophrenia.

firstly, i say ''shadow people'' as if they are something ordinary because to me (and many others) these are perfectly normal. most people who see them regularly have seen them, like me, their entire lives. and so when i mention them they are ''as normal as aeroplanes in the sky''

secondly i did recently post that a close family friend has a degree in psychology and is perfectly qualified to tell me about my mental state (surprise, surprise, i'm sane).
if you have nothing that adds to the thread please refrain from posting.