Warning: A Conspiracy Against Conspiracy Theorists

reply to post by MathiasAndrew



Huh?? Well, THIS is hilarious!!:

This video will probably be banned soon .....

Errrmmmm....."AlienScientist" over there on the "UTubes" is quite prolific....almost 100 videos. Oh, and THAT BAD BOY has been "up" since 9 December 2008!!!

Yeah...right....."banned soon"....

(Maybe because of the crappy soundtrack?)

Oh...the video, BTW...."Truth", in the title??? Pay attention to the trance-inducing rapid-fire images. See if you can spot Han Solo and Chewbacca there....! LOL!!!

(There are other doozies, too....silly video.....@00:24, a screen shot from the motion picture "Star Trek: First Contact". The "LCARS Enterprise 1701-E" view of the "Borg" taking over the Earth.....LOL!!!)

"LCARS" is Trek-ese for "Library Computer Access/Retrival System"


(I am one of the ATS go-to guys for Star Trek trivia....)

(....kidding....)


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Oh.....and, my favorite comment posted there, on the YouTube page:

So the truth is... SETI found aliens who came to Earth, got dissected, rose from the dead, got high on coc aine and blew up the World Trade Center?

Dude... I have GOT to tell my friends about these awesome facts!

BloodspillingSam 1 month ago

reply to post by weedwhacker


It was meant to be a joke.

Check out the image around .48

ATS

reply to post by MathiasAndrew


Here is a theory/conspiracy that I’ve been mulling over.

Scenario: Let’s say President Obama was actually born elsewhere other than the US, which would make him unconstitutionally elected. Mr. Trump finds positive proof of this and releases it worldwide. Naturally, the President would have to step down. Here is where I think it gets tricky. What would happen?

Does VP Biden get indicted as a co-conspirator? Harry Reid? Nancy Pelosi? I am sure many from both parties would go down.

Are all laws ratified by this administration now null and void? And we are still stuck with debt.

And if both the President and the Vice-President have to step down, well, BAM! We now have a Republican in the White House.

I think if this actually played out, the SHTF may happen.

I hope they fit through the chimmney and bring me a present.
I'll leave the milk and cookies out.

reply to post by weedwhacker


So the truth is... SETI found aliens who came to Earth, got dissected, rose from the dead, got high on coc aine and blew up the World Trade Center?

Dude... I have GOT to tell my friends about these awesome facts!


Sadly, (OR NOT SADLY!) this is a far more plausible idea than the one you aspire too.

sustein is jooish.
the chozen rule the world, thru banking, globalizm, the media, and lobbyiests, etc.

they cannot afford to let people criticize them, because if people knew they were following the protokols of xionism, people would rebel.

if this was a science fiction movie, it would be an awesome task for the hero to have to defeat.
the problem is its real life. and since they own everything AND 'everyone' it will be difficult to defeat the learned elders of [death, war, usury,] xionism.

Here is a conspiracy I'm sure Cass won't like. Click the link in my tagline - his wife, soon to replace Hillary Clinton, is part of a multi-year plan to invade the middle east. They actively setup pretexts, preprogrammed the world in to accepting the Obama Doctrine, and most likely incited the rebellions in Egypt, Libya, and other countries.

So what are we all going to do about this? I propose we give them a taste of their own medicine and borrow some plays out of their book. What do they do when the word war doesn't jive with the law? They rename it. Let's change the phrase "conspiracy theory" to "possibilty theory"

reply to post by Deafseeingeyedog


For every action an equal and opersite reaction.

If this lovely piece of filth got enshrined in us law, I would suggest that would be an open declaration of war on the consiracy theory culture.

personally I might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating government properganda by raising doubts about their factual premises, causal logic or implications for political action.

Anything the government can do on the internet so can you or I

Say what you want about Glenn Beck, but he uncovered this about a year ago.

reply to post by MathiasAndrew


Truly scary stuff...they admit that there have been some occasions when conspiracy theories have been proven to be true, yet still seek to outlaw such thinking?? Crazy.

Incidentally, I see you've attracted a well known ATS disinfo agent (or seriously socially repressed kid, lol!) to your thread. Congratulations for that!

(shows the b-tards are nervous, hah)

(this is my first post here so give me a bit of slack) People will believe what they want to believe and in this day and age what the internet will tell them. I have a bad feeling that the media we are going to generate in the future is going to be more "Half truths" than it is now. Think about it; people are ACTUALLY quoting Wikipedia!!! I remember a day when we couldn't use that as a source for school papers, now mainstream media is using it as truth. So, we have a bit of a miss communication problem in the short run... Whose can honestly believe there isn't a news organization out there that just pumps false information into a small demographic with hopes that it will spread it. Remember the best tactic any government has is to cover the truth with something false. Throwing around theories, false flag tactics... Misdirection it all plays...

reply to post by MathiasAndrew


Who are these god damned fascists working for us (yeah right)! What are they so afraid of? What has happened to this country? They are being exposed and are feeling the heat. The internet will be shut down or highly regulated by years end, I have little doubt. We are headed for the cliff. When is the breaking point? We are doomed without action.

reply to post by MathiasAndrew


How to react. Are they serious? How about stop lying and feeding us implausable nonsense, and instead expose the truth? That's what we want. So how does infiltrating the groups help when truth is so much cheaper and satisfying.

reply to post by ararisq
Actually I find that most of their speeches are cryptic,and 9 times out of ten we don't understand them until later,and by then it's usually too late.So it's not surprising that everything that happens(with the government) is pre-planned years inadvance.gives us plenty of time to come up with our theories.

reply to post by Deafseeingeyedog


Yeah now they like to call war Liberation

and the Army Freedom Fighters

But it's still the same results

Death = Profit

I would not worry too much about what other's believe or think they believe. All a person should be worried about is if they know the truth. And that shall set you free.

There is power in knowledge and power can be retained by knowledge which can be piece-meal and made into part and parcel. Assuming we know everything is a foolish thought.

Besides that, Cass Sunstein, Obama's information czar, guru, or whatever he wants to call himself, can spin-doctor and color any conspiracy good or bad. The truth is the truth, it can stand on its own, no matter how many attempts are made to cloud it or muddy the waters.

When the agenda of "leading the people by cherry-picked breadcrumbs" is taken, to avoid some paranoid threat from a group or person's opinion, that person may realize one day they have fallen victim to their own false-beliefs and folly.

Never forget that human beings are very intelligent and have an innate capacity to see through the smoke and mirrors. There will come a time when no authority figure will be able to control information totally. It's already passed this point. To keep with-holding information, good or bad, from the people is a major mistake and places a major stumbling block in your neighbor's way, which should not be done. The truth can take care of itself.

When a person in authority tries to influence many people by propaganda of academic and narrow perspective, they not only tarnish their own image but the entire administration. Media do have effects and anyone can paint the truth with fallacies, but when we realize our assumptions and opinions are not accurate, we must be willing to change and adapt. But to use propaganda against a person or group, against their freedom of thought and speech, they might indeed find that the plan of "cognitive infiltration" may turn into "cognitive dissonance" when the realization they have now become the "boy that cried wolf," too many times and no one believes them or their so-called "credible" academic theories.

Times change, so do morality and ethical viewpoints; to define a dynamic group of people with a term, which may become obsolete tomorrow, is sheer stupidity.

Please remember these...

The First Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the
Corinthians 13

Love

1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly, but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Additional (After reading Cass Sunstein's paper - www.law.uchicago.edu...)

So, it is my understanding, after reading Cass Sunstein's "Conspiracy Theories," that the major objective is to achieve "cognitive infiltration," which corrects false beliefs of a group or individual with diverse information so truth will be realized? This is based on a logical assumption that the "original assumption" is valid and contains no fallacies; but one thing is very important to see with this "technique," which is polarization.

Not at one time, was there mention of all or neither truths were either correct or incorrect, the perspective of the writer, as biased, is one of a correct assumption. Which I argue, as a major flaw in theory, invalidates the theory due to lack of information. Yes, there is data, but is it organized and complete, where it makes sense? There's one important piece missing. The assumption of the group or person that any assumption can be wrong due to missing information, not data. Data is random and useless when trying to predict how a group of unique individuals interact on some theoretical assumption, which can be based on fallacies, of subject matter which might contain highly spurious or imaginative rationale and thought. Some could even think of this as "the flower" of an individual's expressive nature when allowed to grow and be alive. This process can even take-on a life in and of itself, which is of a mystical nature; but nevertheless, is a form of expression.

Further, I argue, the nature of Sunstein's writing lacks other "diverse" disciplines and perspectives, to allow the esoteric knowledge, of each, to flourish and fill-in to complete the numbers missing. Also, one can argue that academia, is too slow to assimilate rapidly occurring events in present history combined with instant accessibility of millions. Which also, begs the question of why isn't the necessity of "informational discernment" being stressed even more, to find correct information within an environment of eternal data? The time of "flat databases," which are combined together, is over. Human behavior and social engineering embedded into media which is instantaneous, offers the human race more discoveries than can be counted or one of the most dreadful nightmares anyone can imagine.

It seems as our level of responsibilities in every aspect of all of our lives just got bumped up a notch, and we must revise our moral and ethical bases of how we do things. How we act. How we think. How we believe. And how we love, one another. Without this, the fate of humanity, forever will remain on the brink. To think in a larger perspective is the goal for any person to achieve, with no bias, no assumptions which can cloud or influence other person's free-will or thought, is desired and would seem to be a necessary ingredient in denying ignorance, in all its forms. Any intention, to the converse, is bondage of the ascribed status of any race.

reply to post by DrNotforhire


True, 20 years ago, when the internet was not in existence. But instead of killing the messenger, why not teach the masses how to effectively discern the truth from the flotsam and jetsam?

I see you are limiting your perspective to only black or white. There is a multitude of colors in our spectrum, in fact millions.

Governments could limit information in the old days, due to the small number of media outlets, but now the internet and freedom of the flow of information has changed things, right?

Right. And trying to change or persuade a person's freedom of thought and will gets harder and harder and harder.

Just tell the truth because resistance is futile and YOU will be assimilated and service US!

reply to post by boondock-saint
what?????? you did not know the TPTB that killed MLK did the same to JFK RFK!!!! not in that order but those men died as well as MM, she too was assassinated by the same PTB. as long as there is the right to free thought, free thinking, and free speech i will say, think, post and thread what i think might be possible does not mean it is real fact or truth is is just what TPTB could do would do and most likely did. common sense should be your guide not what some paper group committee or judge said.

So basically we're expected to not question the Government. As what ever they say is the truth and they're always right.

Sounds to me like they don't want us to think!