John McCain is not a US Citizen!

John McCain was born in Panama. Has he ever produced a valid birth certificate? Has he ever showed he was truly naturalized? Or did we get hoodwinked because he looked American with his white skin and Americana accent?

I think he was actually a communist Panamanian spy trying to overthrow the United States government to impose martial law and then make the red flag and commie anthem our staples.

Obama, McCain! is there anyone else? what do you say ATS?!

Personnaly it doesnt matter to me if McCain i or not....Is he President or will he ever be? NO...he would be dead before he got another shot at running...To me the man is a war hero...He had years of his life taking from him being a part of the Vietnam war...being a POW for years especially being a pilot,you know the man got tortured in ways we couldnt even start to imagine..so leave the guy alone...consentrate on people like Obama...the man has never did anything for this country. Other than dragging America even deeper into the hole Bush and Cheney dug..

Just more evidence that we don't know what the hell is going on up top.

wouldn't that be a funny case...both his parents are Americans so there is no questions about his citizenship at all...unfortunately

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Umm he was born in a US military base with two US citizens as parents. But as he is only a senator what does it matter? The POTUS requires citizenship hence the "birther" thing. Not to mention he hasn't spent money to seal his records has he?

I always believed John McCain is so old that he was one of the first immigrants here over from Europe....

Originally posted by hangedman13
Umm he was born in a US military base with two US citizens as parents. But as he is only a senator what does it matter?

The point of the OP, it seems to me, is to point out the hypocrisy of the birthers. Was McCain held to the same standards as Obama in regards to his citizenship status?

Being born on a US military base abroad doesn’t grant citizenship by virtue of birth, so it’s irrelevant if McCain was born on one.

Not to mention he hasn't spent money to seal his records has he?

Neither has Obama.

To answer the OP, no, McCain hasn’t showed “he truly is naturalized,” but he is, by virtue of 8 USC 1403.

McCain was born of two American parents on a US military base in Panama and US bases are considered under US and international law to be US soviergn territory . Still , there were senate hearings to see if he qualified to be President . Many forces tried to block Barry Goldwater from a Presidential run because he was born in the Arizona Territory before Arizona became a state . Another senate hearing and investigation determined that although Arizona had been a territory it was within the USA , did become a state and both of his parents were natural born citizens . George Romney , Mitts father thought about a run for the Presidency but he wasn't a natural born citizen so he couldn't . Same with Arnold Conan the Barbarian . Senate hearings and investigations . Obama has spent 2 million dollars to keep his files sealed and his first execuitive order was to seal and make secret his files . Within minutes i can find every Columbia and Harvard transcrip and mark that Bush ever scored and you can't post one official document with any score or mark that Obama ever received .

panama was a us terrority
mccains parents were us citizens

doesn't matter because it only pertains to the us presidency


talk about non issues

birthers to the left of me birthers to the right of here i am stuck in the middle of them

Originally posted by aptness

Originally posted by hangedman13
Umm he was born in a US military base with two US citizens as parents. But as he is only a senator what does it matter?

The point of the OP, it seems to me, is to point out the hypocrisy of the birthers. Was McCain held to the same standards as Obama in regards to his citizenship status?

Being born on a US military base abroad doesn’t grant citizenship by virtue of birth, so it’s irrelevant if McCain was born on one.

Not to mention he hasn't spent money to seal his records has he?

Neither has Obama.

To answer the OP, no, McCain hasn’t showed “he truly is naturalized,” but he is, by virtue of 8 USC 1403.

I think it would have more to do with what McCain has done for the country than his skin colour. If Nobama was a war hero...or even served his country...than I don't think it would be an issue. McCain came close to giving the ultimate sacrifice for his country...Nobama just went on letting people.

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Just like he would be dead before the end of his first term if he was in office right now?

Yea. He's still alive.

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the thing is why on earth are we putting up with this BS?! it is about time to act...

Originally posted by bandito
Obama has spent 2 million dollars to keep his files sealed and his first execuitive order was to seal and make secret his files

The executive order did no such thing. Even if it had, it is regarding Presidential records, the documents and communication he receives and sends as President. Nothing to do with his school records, or any other records, before he was elected.

On First Day, Obama Quickly Sets a New Tone—

The new president effectively reversed a post-9/11 Bush administration policy making it easier for government agencies to deny requests for records under the Freedom of Information Act, and effectively repealed a Bush executive order that allowed former presidents or their heirs to claim executive privilege in an effort to keep records secret. ...

Advocates for openness in government, who had been pressing for the moves, said they were pleased. They said the new president had traded a presumption of secrecy for a presumption of disclosure.

“You couldn’t ask for anything better,” said Melanie Sloan, the executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, an advocacy group that tangled frequently with the Bush administration over records. ...

It may not be the type of thing that Mr. Bush wants to hear, however. Experts said Mr. Obama’s moves would have the practical effect of allowing reporters and historians to obtain access to records from the Bush administration that might otherwise have been kept under wraps.

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We would have been much better off having a conservative run against Obama rather than another Marxist like Obama as the opposition candidate. McCain has serious problems.

I thought our motto was deny igonorance...........what a bunch of BS. If you had any common experience or sense you wouldn't have even posted this tripe. My son was born in Germany, at a military hospital to us, both US citizens and both in the military, guess what, he's a US citizen. Trying to pass of the loser we have in office now as being the same is pure idiocy. McCain can prove to who and where he was born and is in fact an American citizen.............can't say the final check is in on Obama. Just another quasi racist thread that has no place here.

Originally posted by superman2012
I think it would have more to do with what McCain has done for the country than his skin colour.

I didn’t say it had to do with skin color. For some, however, it might very well be.

If Nobama was a war hero...or even served his country...than I don't think it would be an issue.

Are you sure?

Anyway, last time I checked, serving in the military or being “a war hero” wasn’t a condition for office.

Originally posted by aptness
Being born on a US military base abroad doesn’t grant citizenship by virtue of birth, so it’s irrelevant if McCain was born on one.

Your opinion of the facts is irrelevant.

He was born of American parents on an American base. You can deny it all you want.
Not to mention his stay at the Hanoi Hilton.

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He wasn't born on a US Military base. He was born in a hospital in Colon, Panama which is directly in the Republic of Panama.

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To American citizens serving in the military and stationed there............jesus, get over it, this is a stupid thread and deserves the hoax bin and nothing less.

Originally posted by MaximosPoena
Your opinion of the facts is irrelevant. He was born of American parents on an American base. You can deny it all you want.

You should have kept reading my post, because in the following statement I indicate that McCain is a US citizen, and I even cite the legislation that granted his citizenship.

The point about military bases is that being born abroad on one doesn’t grant citizenship by virtue of birth.