Putting It All Together: A theory of historical proportions involving WA,ID,MT,WY,NV,OR and CA.

reply to post by westcoast


i agree with you 100%

It will happen well before december 2012. My personal timeline for this is within 6 months. i also think that we as a species are capable of channeling the molten rock flows out to the ocean. There have been advancements in the capablities of acustic refridgeration...

reply to post by Heyyo_yoyo


I really am sorry you feel so strongly about this. I still don't see it (very big differences in what we have said IMO), but I alerted your post for the mods. I told them that I'm not asking it be removed, but that they look at our ops for a third party opinion since you are so upset about it. I sincerely would never take someone eles's ideas or credit.

I encourage you again to look at what I have said in my OP and your own. While some of our feelings are similar, our theories themselves are quite different. I did't get any of my ideas from you....they have been forming for the past two years...documented in my own threads and others.

I don't want to derail the thread, but I also don't want you or anyone else thinking my reasons for this OP are anything other than wanting to share my thoughts for the goal of pooling or knowledge here to perhaps better understand what is happening on the coast now and potentially in the future.

reply to post by westcoast


Well said... This isn't about credit, stars, or flags... It's about trying to figure out what is to come in our future here. I live on the west coast so am concerned too. Have been eyeing that recent Nevada cluster/Mono Lake/Aurora Crater with a suspicion also. westcoast, your posts from what I have read since I've been here have always seemed to originate from genuine concern and I appreciate your efforts, keep it up.

Oh btw.... S&F

reply to post by kro32

...wrong on so many levels

Really. Ok. Start the correction. I'm interested to know how..?

*snip*



Can't be plagerism unless you have published it and ats doesn't count. Scientists often use other sources and base research off previous works to build a workable theory. At most, westcoast is guilty of not citing your work but that's about it.

reply to post by kro32


Kro32, there is nothing to site. I didn't use any of his work. All my sources were listed and linked. The maps were my own. I honestly do not know what is being refrenced, but I have asked a mod to look and make sure.


As to the electrical theory; I have never heard of that before. Rather than asking for proof that it isn't acurate perhaps it would be easier for the poster to provide some linked info explaining it? Or is it a theory too? Interesting either way.

reply to post by westcoast


Your correct westcoast that is the way it usually works. An idea is presented with evidence showing why that idea is plausible. Once that is shown I will analyze the data and if I disagree with it I will provide correlating evidence as to why I think that.

The burden of proof initially falls with the one making the claim.

ATTENTION...

Let's refrain from veering off-topic or making personal attacks or allegations on the main boards. If there's a concern bring it to the staff's attention, as opposed to throwing the equivalent of a toddler's tantrum in a thread.

Now, back to the original thread discussion...

reply to post by westcoast


So the reality is that "...wrong on so many levels" was concealing a lack of knowledge? Amusing that you'd shut the door to what I offered, rather than open a door to where this might've lead to.

...As to the electrical theory; I have never heard of that before.

There's a branch of planetary mechanics that's defense based; from which HAARP was derived. It's at the basis for HAARP and how it delivers energy to the Earth to effect a change. The ionosphere is only a transport - HAARP can't function without certain satellites and their analysis of the electrical layer, of the plate in question, as the frequency values are constantly changing. All of this if studied closely will lead to how gravity is manufactured - it's frequency.

Please feel free to dismiss my comment. It's ok. All I'll say is that electricity is at play on a level that's fundamental.

Originally posted by iballs
reply to post by westcoast

 

So the reality is that "...wrong on so many levels" was concealing a lack of knowledge? Amusing that you'd shut the door to what I offered, rather than open a door to where this might've lead to.

...As to the electrical theory; I have never heard of that before.

There's a branch of planetary mechanics that's defense based; from which HAARP was derived. It's at the basis for HAARP and how it delivers energy to the Earth to effect a change. The ionosphere is only a transport - HAARP can't function without certain satellites and their analysis of the electrical layer, of the plate in question, as the frequency values are constantly changing. All of this if studied closely will lead to how gravity is manufactured - it's frequency.

Please feel free to dismiss my comment. It's ok. All I'll say is that electricity is at play on a level that's fundamental.

So what exactly is the correlation between electricity and plate techtonics. If you could explain it in geological terms and leave HAARP out of it that would be appreciated.

reply to post by iballs


iballs, I think you got my comment mixed with someone else's. What I said was:

As to the electrical theory; I have never heard of that before. Rather than asking for proof that it isn't acurate perhaps it would be easier for the poster to provide some linked info explaining it? Or is it a theory too? Interesting either way.

I have no interest in dismissing it, but learning more about it. Its what I like about ATS...new ideas. Thank you for your contributions.

The amount of flags so far will attest to the quality of this thread. Star & flag

reply to post by westcoast


Apologies. I'm relatively new to ATS and this was my mistake.

I'm restrained in providing more information. If the understanding that the Earth has a magnetic pole, it's accepted that it is a DC body. If Maxwell's work on Electromagnetic Propagation is followed, it'll be noted that it is impossible to isolate a DC field, from its accompanying AC field or vice versa.

The Earth has always had an AC field. This is never acknowledged openly for many good reasons. Both frequency sets - the interplay of AC and DC, on any given area of the Earth are important in understanding plate tectonics; the fact that they're changing requires satellite monitoring.

Hope this helps.

So another day of tremors. I was afraid we might see this trend. 156 epicenters again at the southern end of the mapped subduction zone:

Link


If this continues, in the recent past it was answered with a moderate quake on the northern end. Given the current swarm in Nevada though....if my theory is accurate than perhaps this time will be different, or maybe maybe even more so.

What do you think? Are those quakes relieving pressure or building up?

I am still thinking about those aquifers. Those of us with some basic understanding of calderas realize the explosive combination of water and magma. So many things to consider.

I'll keep watching those tremors, the swarm in Nevada and any other unusuall seismic activity. I'll also have to be sure and get out for a walk tomorrow and see if the rumbling is back yet.

reply to post by westcoast


I really really hate to say this, WC, but I'm thinking pressure is building. It's been too long, IMHO that the west coast of the United States, has had a larger earthquake. What's also ringing through my mind is what we have said too many times before. That scientists state, it's not a matter of if, but WHEN. And as you mentioned in your OP, that time frame gets smaller and smaller.

To iballs... theories, opinions and facts are always welcome here at ATS. But this thread is not about HAARP, nor do I think it's the place to bring it up. PuterMan, a very well known and respected member of ATS, has a thread about HAARP. I would encourage you to visit it and share your thoughts in that thread. Which you can find here:

Can HAARP Create Earthquakes - ATS Thread

ETA: I hope your hand & finger are ok!

Originally posted by kro32
So what exactly is the correlation between electricity and plate techtonics. If you could explain it in geological terms and leave HAARP out of it that would be appreciated.

I don't know yet... but the earthquake lights observed are real and have lately been documented. It is likely piezoelectric from rubbing quartz together on a massive scale, but I don't think there is a working model yet.

One thing is certain, electrical effects around seismic and volcanic events has been increasing. It may be just because in the last decade we have seen a lot of 8.0 plus quakes and have been looking for the effects, but I have only recently seen photos like this...





There have been many reports of volcano lightning, but in over 30 years I have never seen displays like this

reply to post by UtahRosebud

...theories, opinions and facts are always welcome here at ATS. But this thread is not about HAARP

This isn't about HAARP. Like magma, HAARP is directly related to the Earth's tectonic field; one is a by-product and the other is engaged in exploiting the fact that all plates are polarized. Magma will always be a by-product of polarized plates connecting.

Icelandic volcano's ash blanket was electric
Iceland's volcanic ash is electric
Wiki: Earthquake Light


If you're reading only HAARP or magma, subduction, hot water springs etc - they're all a collary example of the plates being polarized; they're an extension of and no more.

The question to ask is what is electrically exciting the plates? Can this be observed in real-time?

Now is this still about HAARP or are you connecting tectonic plates to electricity? Did you really believe that the plates are moving on their own, because of inertial weight and angular kinetic momentum? If so, why isn't it continuous and why now - why does it work in pulses? What's the "difference" that's caused a dramatic change?

Far be it for me to get in the way of your observations. Thought I could help. Reject all and the above as mis-guided and I apologize for taking your time.

Mind boggling, Westcoast. What an incredible piece of research and reasoning this is. And so elegant! You have really zapped my brain with your theory. After reading your OP, the first thing I thought about was the 2002 7.9 magnitude Denali quake in Alaska and how it affected some of the geothermal features in Yellowstone. Those kinds of phenomenon really reinforce the notion that the vulcanism and subterranean processes of the western half of the North American continent are interrelated. It makes me wonder if there is maybe a "subway system" of some kind connecting it all. And I also thought about the Japan quake and how it at first appeared that it had "activated" Yellowstone. I know it turned out to just be echoes of the Japan quake that showed up on the Yellowstone recorders, but still, it's not so far-fetched a notion that it could have been a reality.

I wish there was some way to map the entire world below ground like they did with the recent new map of the Yellowstone plume. Wouldn't it be amazing to see a deep cross sectional map of all of the world's volcanoes and where they draw their magma from including a layout of the magma tubes? I can only guess at the amazing and surprising connections we might see!

Thank you so much for this thread and your incredible work here and on the other Fragile Earth threads. You are a Fragile Earth Rock Star in my book!

1.4 2011/04/18 07:13:00 37.297 -117.085 7.8 15 km ( 10 mi) E of Tokop, NV
1.0 2011/04/18 07:03:15 37.343 -117.256 38.1 5 km ( 3 mi) N of Tokop, NV
1.1 2011/04/18 06:56:16 37.333 -117.100 7.0 15 km ( 9 mi) ENE of Tokop, NV
1.3 2011/04/18 05:55:50 37.324 -117.123 9.5 12 km ( 8 mi) E of Tokop, NV
1.5 2011/04/18 05:21:40 37.316 -117.098 3.7 14 km ( 9 mi) E of Tokop, NV
2.4 2011/04/18 05:17:12 37.325 -117.120 10.5 13 km ( 8 mi) ENE of Tokop, NV
1.1 2011/04/18 04:04:25 37.316 -117.117 7.0 13 km ( 8 mi) E of Tokop, NV
1.4 2011/04/17 20:29:05 37.317 -117.108 4.8 14 km ( 8 mi) E of Tokop, NV
1.0 2011/04/17 19:25:14 37.336 -117.100 5.3 15 km ( 9 mi) ENE of Tokop, NV

Tokop is seeing a little action.

earthquake.usgs.gov...

Here is the map

www.mapquest.com...

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