Every human language evolved from 'single prehistoric African mother tongue

Originally posted by 1truthseeker50
reply to post by optimus primal

 

I do not have a common anything with chimps or apes. I do not have the monkey gene.

In 1939, Drs. Philip Levine and Rufus Stetson published in a first case report the clinical consequences of non-recognized Rh factor, hemolytic transfusion reaction and hemolytic disease of the newborn in its most severe form.[1] It was recognized that the serum of the reported woman agglutinated with red blood cells of about 80% of the people although the then known blood groups, in particular ABO were matched. No name was given to this then for the first time described agglutinin. In 1940, Drs. Karl Landsteiner and Alexander S. Wiener reported a serum that also reacted with about 85% of different human red blood cells.[2] This serum was produced by immunizing rabbits with red blood cells from Rhesus macaque. The antigen that induced this immunization was designated by them as Rh factor "to indicate that rhesus blood had been used for the production of the serum."[3] Based on the serologic similarities Rh factor was later also used for antigens, and anti-Rh for antibodies, found in humans such as the previously described by Levine and Stetson. Although differences between these two sera were shown already in 1942 and clearly demonstrated in 1963, the already widely used term "Rh" was kept for the clinically described human antibodies which are different from the ones related to the Rhesus ape. This real factor found in Rhesus macaque was classified in the Landsteiner-Wiener antigen system (antigen LW, antibody anti-LW) in honor to the discoverers.[4][5] It was recognized that the Rh factor was just one in a system of various antigens. Based on different models of genetic inheritance, two different terminologies were developed; both of them are still in use (see below). The clinical significance of this highly immunizing D antigen (i.e. Rh factor) was soon realized. Some keystones were to recognize its importance for blood transfusion including reliable diagnostic tests, and hemolytic disease of the newborn including exchange transfusion and very importantly the prevention of it by screening and prophylaxis.

en.wikipedia.org...


rh factor is a gene for antigens. having it or not having it doesn't have anything to do with being related to monkeys in that being rh- doesn't mean that you don't have a common ancestor with apes. you do whether you have the rh factor or not.

Originally posted by Itop1

Every human language evolved from 'single prehistoric African mother tongue

www.dailymail.c o.uk

Every language in the world - from English to Mandarin - evolved from a prehistoric 'mother tongue' first spoken in Africa tens of thousands of years ago, a new study reveals.

After analysing more than 500 languages, Dr Quentin Atkinson found compelling evidence that they can be traced back to a long-forgotten dialect spoken by our Stone Age ancestors.

The findings don't just pinpoint the origin of language to Africa - they also show that speech evolved at least 100,000 years ago, far earli

(visit the link for the full news article)

Sounds to my like they are getting rattled that more and more people are questioning the 'Out of Africa' Theory and are trying to come up with all sorts of voodoo science in response.

My response to this article is - HONK!

reply to post by Itop1


too bad man was created in the middle east. language would come from the gods aka aliens that made us, sorry not africa.

reply to post by optimus primal


The Rh factor is either pos. or neg. for the rhyses monkey gene. I am negative for the monkey gene. Do you have the monkey gene? you must for you to be so senitive. The theory of evolution is just that. A theory. And I am not "out of Africa".

reply to post by 1truthseeker50


Trust me, evolution is real, and the "theory" in the way you say it is just our understanding of how it works. It's true that we don't have a full understanding, since we're not completely certain what factors cause traits to pass down continuously. The fact is that evolution is a fact though. It definitely happens, and you would understand if you had looked at the transition fossils and taken a look at the structure of your own skeleton compared to those millions of years older, and the traits you share with other animals, including psychological traits.

It's not black and white, but evolution is an undeniable fact, and we share many traits with our evolutionary cousins, the monkeys/apes. (by the way, we are classified as an ape)

reply to post by Varemia


did you start from just a couple apes?
I ask because many say well so and so must have done such and such
has the human race grown? from how many in the beggining?

as to the OP

He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth

For man is not from woman, but woman from man.

For as woman came from man, even so man also comes through woman; but all things are from God.

Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world. But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law

Originally posted by Rustami
did you start from just a couple apes?
I ask because many say well so and so must have done such and such
has the human race grown? from how many in the beggining?

What? Of course I didn't start from a couple apes. Evolution is a slow process, and humans have looked the way we do for almost 500,000 years, though we had less of a chin (or no chin at all). I don't know the exact numbers of us in the beginning, since there was no definite beginning. That's the wonder of evolution. Creatures don't "begin," however much we would like to label them as beginnings of creatures. We are all in a steady state of gradual change.

The special thing about humans is that a few million years ago, we started to break rocks and utilized their sharp edges. This lead to a higher survival rate among apes who could better control tools. In that sense, higher perceptions and abilities to remember how to make things arose. It took a couple more million years, but we developed hand-axes and other tool systems, until around 750,000 years ago we began to cultivate fire. Something about being able to stay warm and have time to think caused humans to begin developing more things and spreading genes for larger and larger brain capacity. Eventually, you achieve us today, and we are not a finished product. No creature is ever done evolving or evolving to reach a specific point.

For man is not from woman, but woman from man.

For as woman came from man, even so man also comes through woman; but all things are from God.

Speaking from a developmental point of view, that's not entirely true. Fetuses are all female after conception until a certain number of weeks in, after which testosterone begins production and the male parts take shape. In all technicality, all males come from the female form, both inside and out.

reply to post by Itop1


by this logic, how do you know people orginated out of africa?

were you there x amount of years ago?

the book Not Out of Africa by Mary Lefkowitz made a compelling argument against the out of africa theory.

only portions of it are available on google books, but im sure the local library (remember those lol) might have a copy

Originally posted by Varemia

What? Of course I didn't start from a couple apes. Evolution is a slow process, and humans have looked the way we do for almost 500,000 years, though we had less of a chin (or no chin at all). I don't know the exact numbers of us in the beginning, since there was no definite beginning. That's the wonder of evolution. Creatures don't "begin," however much we would like to label them as beginnings of creatures. We are all in a steady state of gradual change.

The special thing about humans is that a few million years ago, we started to break rocks and utilized their sharp edges. This lead to a higher survival rate among apes who could better control tools. In that sense, higher perceptions and abilities to remember how to make things arose. It took a couple more million years, but we developed hand-axes and other tool systems, until around 750,000 years ago we began to cultivate fire. Something about being able to stay warm and have time to think caused humans to begin developing more things and spreading genes for larger and larger brain capacity. Eventually, you achieve us today, and we are not a finished product. No creature is ever done evolving or evolving to reach a specific point.

Speaking from a developmental point of view, that's not entirely true. Fetuses are all female after conception until a certain number of weeks in, after which testosterone begins production and the male parts take shape. In all technicality, all males come from the female form, both inside and out.

"I did'nt"~ "humans""we""you""us"
no one with that ideology ever seems to
but we can know for a fact that only one female and one male produce/s/d "I we you us humans"(even eternal)- so two

and before you were a suckling in your mothers womb there was...uh humm..a "Rib" involved

Whereas most mammals (including common species such as dogs and mice) and most other primates (excepting spider monkeys) have a penile bone, human males lack this bone and must rely on fluid hydraulics to maintain erections. This is not an insignificant bone...it was Adam’s baculum that was removed in order to make Eve. That would explain why human males, of all the primates and most other mammals, did not have one. The Hebrew noun translated as "rib," tzela (tzade, lamed, ayin), can indeed mean a costal rib...If this seam does not form, hypospadias of the glans, penis, and scrotum can result.
www.cabinetmagazine.org...

actually after three days to one week, according to this guy-

"The Father of Modern Genetics"
Dr. Lejeune explained that within three to seven days after fertilization we can determine if the new human being is a boy or a girl. "At no time," Dr. Lejeune said, "is the human being a blob of protoplasm. As far as your nature is concerned, I see no difference between the early person that you were at conception and the late person which you are now. You were, and are, a human being."

as far as fetus goes-

fetus
late 14c., "the young while in the womb or egg," from L. fetus (often, incorrectly, foetus) "the bearing, bringing forth, or hatching of young," from Latin base *fe- "to generate, bear," also "to suck, suckle" (see fecund). In Latin, fetus sometimes was transferred figuratively to the newborn creature itself, or used in a sense of "offspring, brood" (cf. Horace's "Germania quos horrida parturit Fetus"), but this was not the basic meaning. www.etymonline.com

Sir Albert Lilley, widely considered the "Father of Fetology", and unabashedly pro-life (as anyone with his vast knowledge of fetal development should be) makes some remarkable statements about fetal pain www.abort73.com...

reply to post by Rustami


Seriously you're not serious, right? You're claiming that the penile bone is a rib, and that because the "y" chromosome can be identified a few days after conception, that it automatically means that males came first.

I don't even... why I bother posting on this site...

Have you ever considered that perhaps the penile bone is just a gene that has turned off as a result of upright walking and humans being at a disadvantage if their thingy is waving around? Some people are still born with it sometimes, and doctors surgically remove it.

Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by Rustami

 

Seriously you're not serious, right? You're claiming that the penile bone is a rib, and that because the "y" chromosome can be identified a few days after conception, that it automatically means that males came first.

I don't even... why I bother posting on this site...

Have you ever considered that perhaps the penile bone is just a gene that has turned off as a result of upright walking and humans being at a disadvantage if their thingy is waving around? Some people are still born with it sometimes, and doctors surgically remove it.

did your eyes notice the "off site"??..hence..
have you considered I come from the Womb Survivior Tribe (from a woman) yet I did also hear an audible invisible voice say He was "Jesus"(eternal obviously) -just like the scriptures say and was associated to the womb as well

1 Corinthians
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

the King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone is wise

Psalm 22
I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

reply to post by Rustami


I really don't see what you're getting at here or what it has to do with the topic of a primary language.

Scripture does not science make.

Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by Rustami

 

I really don't see what you're getting at here or what it has to do with the topic of a primary language.

Scripture does not science make.

I've noticed, yet one comment leads to another like "Trust me""we dont understand""its a fact""500000""750000""few million"

all things are derived from the Maker, even causing motives for dishonesty obviously

How can you say we are wise and that you know my laws? the laws have been changed by dishonest scribes.

The Scientific 100:
A Ranking of the Most Influential Scientists, Past and Present
www.adherents.com...

The King James version of the Bible is only a book. What can a book do in history? Well, whatever the reason, books have played a large part in the movements of men, SPECIALLY OF MODERN MAN. www.bible-researcher.com...

SIMPLY PUT, THE BIBLE IS THE MOST influential book ever written.jyte.com...

science? scripture? language?-

His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.

Brass is a metal composed primarily of copper and zinc. Copper is the main component, and brass is usually classified as a copper alloy. The color of brass www.madehow.com...

Brass contacts are hidden inside all electrical fittings

Go, shut thyself within thine house..say unto them



and a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass..they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.. their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps..the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning..appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel..they turned not when they went.. their rings were full of eyes round about them..for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels..And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it..it had brightness round about. As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about.

The first "MODERN CAR" was (internationally agreed) invented by the German Carl Benz in 1885...The first "MODERN COMPUTER" was invented by German Engineer Karl Zuse in 1941, the "Z3" was the first fully functional program-controlled electromechanical digital computer in the WORLD..The Internet was invented by the US but not a single person like other big inventions have their one master-mind-inventor, no it was ARPA (now know as DARPA) who invented the internet and later different countries (here UK, Swiss and I think some others) made that, already invented internet, worldwide(web) accessible..Mr.Bell was scottish..The idea for the telephone from the Frenchman Charles Bourseul, nobody recognized him, 1860: The Italian born, in New-York living Antonio Meucci, presents his phone to the public and magazines are writing about his invention (but no money for the patent),1861: Philipp Reis is working on his telephone and shows to the public at different conventions..

inventions by country www.eupedia.com...



For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him

For the Son of Man will come like the lightning which flashes across the whole sky from the east to the west.

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it all seems awfully coincendental and relative to me

reply to post by Rustami


You want to know other books that have been extremely influential on the world, and movies? Star Wars, Harry Potter, Twilight, etc. The reason the Bible is so popular is because it was the only book people were allowed to read for a long time. Anyone who nay-sayed it would get themselves killed somehow, especially during the middle ages.

I would just rather believe in the science behind things rather than a book filled with words that people can't agree are metaphorical or not.

reply to post by Varemia


yes the link did provide a few others for comparison. personally liked NAM and The High King though it was years ago..did'nt the Pope then get pissed for publicating and c'mon man you missed The Matrix what's the problem? *scientist-ppffft* we shalt not talketh nence nay more for that one

For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. www.biblegateway.com

music yeah have some close family in the business, usually work with a radio blasting and mow grass with an ipod on

The out of africa is just a theory and so many take it on as a factoid.

www.articlesafari.com...
NEW FINDINGS SUGGEST NO AFRICAN “EVE”

Wolpoff’s team of scientists compared the anatomical structure of bones found in Australia and central Europe, looking for signs of a uniquely African ancestry. They found none. Their report, published in Science, reveals that Wolpoff found evidence of both African and “local” ancestors.

“We could not disprove the hypothesis of multiple ancestry,” he said. “We don’t think [the replacement theory] could be correct. ”

NOT Out of Africa


STRANGE ARTIFACTS - UNEXPLAINED SKULLS

Our origins are cosmic and from different dna pools, and our languages have a cosmic base too.

reply to post by optimus primal


To quote a Hopi Elder, " they maybe your ancestors, but they are not MY ancestors". I am of German and Native America desent. Only one percent of Africans have the rh- blood.

reply to post by Itop1


Alien contact For the win.

reply to post by Varemia
I do not believe the theory of evolution. If you came form a monkey, why are their still monkeys?? The fossil evidence, show the apes skulll to the modern man. There is no link from apes to humans. Show me the missing link. You are either ape or your human. Like I said, I do not have the antigene for ,monkey blood. And I am not suppose to mate with someone that is rh+. You can actually see bloods not mixing. You can only inheiret what your ancestors pass down. If we all came from the same ancestor why would my body reject it's own fetus? Rh- does not orginate anywhere on earth. It can not be cloned as you can you can with rh+ lactated ringers. So where did rh- come from. It certainaly does not come "out of africa"

reply to post by 1truthseeker50


We have proven that we dont come from "Monkeys or Apes" we come from a homo species.

Appearance of Homo. Homo habilis is thought to be the ancestor of the lankier and more sophisticated Homo ergaster. Lived side by side with Homo erectus until at least 1.44 Ma, making it highly unlikely that Homo erectus directly evolved out of Homo habilis. First stone tools, beginning of the Lower Paleolithic.

Further information: Homo rudolfensis

the monkeys are monkeys still because of things called cousins. evolution cant be disproven or proven 100%. Eg. if theres no picture of the camera beign invented dose it even exist?