Man Gets Arrested For Making Joke In New York City

This was from 2007, so you can meld Obama's name in with Bush's

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Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

From Hitler to Pinochet and beyond, history shows there are certain steps that any would-be dictator must take to destroy constitutional freedoms.
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1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
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2. Create a gulag

Once you have got everyone scared, the next step is to create a prison system outside the rule of law (as Bush put it, he wanted the American detention centre at Guantánamo Bay to be situated in legal "outer space") - where torture takes place.
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3. Develop a thug caste

When leaders who seek what I call a "fascist shift" want to close down an open society, they send paramilitary groups of scary young men out to terrorise citizens. The Blackshirts roamed the Italian countryside beating up communists; the Brownshirts staged violent rallies throughout Germany. This paramilitary force is especially important in a democracy: you need citizens to fear thug violence and so you need thugs who are free from prosecution.
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4. Set up an internal surveillance system

In Mussolini's Italy, in Nazi Germany, in communist East Germany, in communist China - in every closed society - secret police spy on ordinary people and encourage neighbours to spy on neighbours. The Stasi needed to keep only a minority of East Germans under surveillance to convince a majority that they themselves were being watched.
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5. Harass citizens' groups
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6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release

This scares people.
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7. Target key individuals

Threaten civil servants, artists and academics with job loss if they don't toe the line. Mussolini went after the rectors of state universities who did not conform to the fascist line; so did Joseph Goebbels, who purged academics who were not pro-Nazi; so did Chile's Augusto Pinochet; so does the Chinese communist Politburo in punishing pro-democracy students and professors.
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8. Control the press
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9. Dissent equals treason
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10. Suspend the rule of law

Originally posted by civilchallenger

Originally posted by SeventhSeal
Honestly, maybe he should've minded his own business. The guy should've known better than to mess with NY cops.

Thats right, blame the victim. If someone gets raped, next time they'll know better than to dress in a short skirt or wear makeup on their face. If you don't self-mutilate your face, you should know better than to walk outside after 6PM and deserve the rapes you've got coming. Right?

In point of fact he did not "mess with NY cops"... he was joking about them. Big difference. And if he didn't do that we wouldn't realizing what pond scum they are, so I'm glad he heroically shed some light on the situation. Most big-city cops are like that... authoritarian sadistic monsters.

edit on 16-4-2011 by civilchallenger because: (no reason given)

yea i think maybe ur blowing the context way out of proportion here by comparing what happened here to that of rape....

fact is the man was warned by police to keep moving yet he was belligerant and rude to the officers which is why they got out the car and asked for ID, now it didnt have to get to the point of them getting out the car, nor did it have to get to the point were he was cuffed...he should have did as they asked and then could have been on his way..so yes i personally think that the man brought it on himself with his smart mouth...and not doing as he was asked.

Bonafide heroes right there!

Originally posted by Misterlondon

Originally posted by watchitburn
arrested for being black on a friday night.

2nd line

yeah...by a black police officer..

so your point if indeed you are trying to make one is complete nonsense...

Absolutely not.
His point is spot on, or have you never heard of the "house negro?"

House Negro (also House Nigger) is a pejorative term for a black person, used to compare someone to a house slave of a slave owner from the historic period of legal slavery in the US. The term comes from a speech, Message to the Grass Roots, given by African American activist Malcolm X, where he explains that during slavery, there were two kinds of slaves: "house Negroes," who worked in the master's house and "field Negroes," who performed the manual labor outside. He characterizes the house Negro as having a better life than the field Negro, and thus unwilling to leave the plantation, and potentially more likely to support existing power structures that favor whites over blacks.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by daddio
reply to post by GreatScot

 

Here is a good link for this guy to file a complaint against the officers involved...
www.fbi.gov...

I think everyone should save this link and file complaints so we get the message out that we are not gonna take this crap anymore!!

THIS IS IT SHOW THEM THE WAY

YOUR COUNTRY YOUR POLICE BORN FREE

Note my friend who doesnt even watch news or read papers said to me and this is a gem " why wear clothes when we are born naked"

ME - " Because you need clothes in public its against the LAW to be naked

Friend - " But we pay for the clothes what if you cant afford them"

ME - " LOL you just exposed a TRILLION $ EMPIRE that forces the public servants to enforce there products"

All the adverts and still the public servants uphold the RETAIL MAFIA LAW

I wear clothes but would be up for a change whos with me

cops chasing naked protest down street lets see them spin that on MSM when they beat and round up millions of naked protesters?
THE NAKED REVOLUTION could be the name of the movment

This is the perfect example of what happens when you have too many cops. The Police State takes over very quickly. No free speeh, Six year olds groped by the TSA in airports. Cops handcuffing first graders for threats against the school, old ladies tazed. Military units with snipers at the Superbowl. It is happening quickly all under the false idea that we are being protected from terrorist.We need to take our Nation back.

Originally posted by badw0lf

Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder
reply to post by fordrew

 

i didnt see them arresting him for making a joke, i heard them telling him that the situation was nothing to do with him and to just keep moving, he then said " i wasnt talking to u"! then the police officer got out the car and asked him repeatedly for his ID and he wouldnt do it...

so had he just handed over his id when asked then it wouldnt have escalated into that....

however the amount of police on the scene was rather excessive....

Good point -

Papers now.

Why?

Papers NOW jew.

What for?

Bang bang.. *squirt squirt*

Deserved it, haha lets carry on shall we? Goodbye jew..

... Yup, good point.

am i the only one in this thread that actually watched and listened to what was going on in that video....

u mention papers..yes the officer asked for his id..HOWEVER before he asked for his id the officer warned him from the car to just move on and dont get involved at which the "victim" (and i use that loosley) was belligerent and shouted at the officer...AND ONLY THEN when the officer got out the car did he ask for his ID....

isnt it normal practice to ask for id? so the officer knows with whom hes dealing? so that he can radio headquarters and find out if there are any warrants? in the uk they do....normal practice.

the man brought it on himself he should have kept moving instead of backchatting after he was warned....

so yuh...good point

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by NWOnoworldorder

 

Well, you sound reasonable when you say he should have just handed over his ID, but then that brings us to the whole point of authorities demanding to see our papers(ID) any old time.That really does smack of Nazi Germany and we all know it.

Except after they ask you for id they don't take you to concentration camps to eventually exterminate you.

Cops have a job to do and if you don't afford them the proper courtesy some will retaliate excessively. Its the nature of the job I guess but all I know is that I have been stopped 2-3 times for various traffic infractions and was polite enough to drive away with a warning rather than a ticket. If I cursed his mother&father not only would I get a ticket I would probably get beaten up and arrested for civil disobedience.

If you walk by the police screaming ,during the course of them trying to do their job,you are asking for trouble.If you are asked not to scream and leave the area immediately,and you continue to scream and be disruptive,you obviously will be fined,jailed or both.I see all these posts comparing this to being like nazis...This is a sick twist on the situation.

reply to post by Kojack


What my point is that just because a law in inconvenient for you does not justify you breaking the law, that is a whole lot different then getting arrested for making a joke.

If you need to break laws to keep a particular job, I say it is time for new job.

Your angry for no other reason than that you were caught, be accountable.

Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder

agreed, and the non-compliant one is the one who was arrested.

And what was his crime? Walking past, having a jab at the guy on the bike? Did the guy on the bike say he wanted justice for it?

Do you hear the hypocrisy? He was walking past, committed no offense and the cop didn't like this - so on his own merit he decided to check this guys ID. No Reason. None.

As others have said he may have known him, but bull - why then request his ID.

The cop was power mad. Simple.

Police do not get to just ask random people for their ID in places they are LEGALLY allowed to be in.

Ugh, what a crap world it must be where you live, if you think this is OK.

Ironic name you have...

Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder

Originally posted by badw0lf

Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder
reply to post by fordrew

 

i didnt see them arresting him for making a joke, i heard them telling him that the situation was nothing to do with him and to just keep moving, he then said " i wasnt talking to u"! then the police officer got out the car and asked him repeatedly for his ID and he wouldnt do it...

so had he just handed over his id when asked then it wouldnt have escalated into that....

however the amount of police on the scene was rather excessive....

Good point -

Papers now.

Why?

Papers NOW jew.

What for?

Bang bang.. *squirt squirt*

Deserved it, haha lets carry on shall we? Goodbye jew..

... Yup, good point.

am i the only one in this thread that actually watched and listened to what was going on in that video....

u mention papers..yes the officer asked for his id..HOWEVER before he asked for his id the officer warned him from the car to just move on and dont get involved at which the "victim" (and i use that loosley) was belligerent and shouted at the officer...AND ONLY THEN when the officer got out the car did he ask for his ID....

isnt it normal practice to ask for id? so the officer knows with whom hes dealing? so that he can radio headquarters and find out if there are any warrants? in the uk they do....normal practice.

the man brought it on himself he should have kept moving instead of backchatting after he was warned....

so yuh...good point

WHAT CRIME DID HE COMMIT?

When you answer that, I'll reconsider a response.

Originally posted by badw0lf

Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder

agreed, and the non-compliant one is the one who was arrested.

And what was his crime? Walking past, having a jab at the guy on the bike? Did the guy on the bike say he wanted justice for it?

Do you hear the hypocrisy? He was walking past, committed no offense and the cop didn't like this - so on his own merit he decided to check this guys ID. No Reason. None.

As others have said he may have known him, but bull - why then request his ID.

The cop was power mad. Simple.



yea ive already replied to your last post....im not repeating myself ..i suggest u watch the video again and this time actually digest what is said and done....

Police do not get to just ask random people for their ID in places they are LEGALLY allowed to be in.

Ugh, what a crap world it must be where you live, if you think this is OK.

Ironic name you have...

New law has been passed people.

When walking past Police Officers - DO NOT SAY ANYTHING. It's the law.

Or else you are now somehow a criminal. And will be taken away.

so Shhhhhhhhhhhh...

Lest the bogeycop get you..

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


If your inability to quote is as good as how you interpret law, good luck with that.

Unfortunately, there are lots of cops in NYC. I would speculate at least 4 per street intersection, not to mention the ones in the middle of the street. It's super pathetic. We are paying them top dollar for them to abuse us. That alone is criminal. And when the budget ax falls, it's the firemen that are axed before the cops are.

Then there are the battle-armed Atlas Task Force dressed in Camo clothing and carrying machine guns. Don't mess with them. They come in three's!

I totally despise NYC cops. I know a few sergeants and the abuse of power is a very big high for them. The stories I constantly hear - they push the envelope to the Nth degree and usually get away with it. All NYC cops have super large egos!!! They thrive on it. I am so very tired of NYPD's constant abuse of power.

The average New Yorker has no potential to counter these bad guys. Even an internal affair investigation usually lets the cops go.

BTW - there is a perpetual crackdown on the brown bus lanes. Can't use those lanes, yet there are lots of cop cars parked in those lanes to begin with. How is the bus supposed to get through in the lane designated for them to begin with. Taxis aren't supposed to use them either, yet they pull over to pick up or let out all the time. No tickets for them. Why not?????

Wasn't the top-cop, Kelly indicted on tax evasion? Why is he still around?

See the abuse starts at the top, and is rampant all the way through to the bottom - meter maid.

Simply dispicable!!!!!!!

-E2

Originally posted by badw0lf

Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder

Originally posted by badw0lf

Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder
reply to post by fordrew

 

i didnt see them arresting him for making a joke, i heard them telling him that the situation was nothing to do with him and to just keep moving, he then said " i wasnt talking to u"! then the police officer got out the car and asked him repeatedly for his ID and he wouldnt do it...

so had he just handed over his id when asked then it wouldnt have escalated into that....

however the amount of police on the scene was rather excessive....

Good point -

Papers now.

Why?

Papers NOW jew.

What for?

Bang bang.. *squirt squirt*

Deserved it, haha lets carry on shall we? Goodbye jew..

... Yup, good point.

am i the only one in this thread that actually watched and listened to what was going on in that video....

u mention papers..yes the officer asked for his id..HOWEVER before he asked for his id the officer warned him from the car to just move on and dont get involved at which the "victim" (and i use that loosley) was belligerent and shouted at the officer...AND ONLY THEN when the officer got out the car did he ask for his ID....

isnt it normal practice to ask for id? so the officer knows with whom hes dealing? so that he can radio headquarters and find out if there are any warrants? in the uk they do....normal practice.

the man brought it on himself he should have kept moving instead of backchatting after he was warned....

so yuh...good point

WHAT CRIME DID HE COMMIT?

When you answer that, I'll reconsider a response.

he was asked by officers to keep walking while he was butting in when they were dealing with the other gentleman and which point he became belligerant...THEN he was asked for id, which he would not do!! if u watch the vieo closley he goes to give the officer his ID then snatches it away..playing games...now had he just did as the officers asked then it wouldnt have got to that....

i think my point has been made....

Originally posted by badw0lf
reply to post by NWOnoworldorder

 

If your inability to quote is as good as how you interpret law, good luck with that.

if you cant have a discussion on here without resorting to smart remarks ..then u have issues....

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


They were in their van, he was not interfering and was on his way when the cop talked back. Might I add, when he was quite FAR away. oh

I give up.

This is police corruption at it's finest - they get away with it, and people like you justify it.

Glad you live in another country.

I'm done with this, said my 2 cents, you can argue or agree with everyone else.. it's just pointless..

and people ask me why i won't ever go to the east coast. at least in the town i'm living in, the cops won't act like that. i was also in a similar situation. i was walking down the street in a black trench-coat, and long hair coming down my fidora, and i was eating a slim jim. a police car was coming down the street right by me, i did kind of a wave with my slim jim and the police car praks at the street corner and gets out

cop: "good morning sir, we're looking for a possible murder suspect, may i see your ID?"
me: "yeah sure" got my wallet out, gave him my id and s. s. card
cop: "can you give me the two middle numbers of your s. s. number
me: "yeah etc. etc. where did it happen. i don't want aany details but i'd like to know if it was on my block"
cop: " no couple streets down."
me: "where you from?"
cop: "new york"
me: "get outta here, my father in law's from boston."
cop: "no way i've got family in boston too."

you know what my father in law said when i came home and told him??
"get outta here"
whenever i am contacted by a cop i always assume that they're trying to be professional. and i give them that shadow of a doubt.