Inside info on comet Elenin (yes, you're being lied to)

I just read 8 pages. What page got this thread over 200 flags? I really don't want to waste time reading all of this...

Nothing would happen. I am saying the truth. Who have other opinion is just bad informed or have boring life and try to make a sensation from nothing because he have lack of excitement in his life. This is my opinion.

Look at this.
www.youtube.com...

We have much more dangerous asteroids every year passing closer to earth and not all even had been mentioned on ATS but Elenin? Wooo, lets panic. Maybe someone would pay attention to me and I would be funny and famous.

Good job. The only impact of elanin on earth would be impact on credibility of some people on ATS.

reply to post by Mizzijr


go back a few pages and start there its all getting disclosed here on ATS first learn the truth

reply to post by odyseusz


please start a op on comets astroids that will hit or may hit i would love to read all the info and im sure ATS great members will unearth some Big hitters excuse my pun

but you raise a very very good point my friend

also your maths .. err .. I mean your figure because you don't actually show the math.
0.0004617 AU is 70,000 km ...

reply to post by karen61057


No this is niburu :

Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:00
[Photos]
Spanish Astronomers Claim Dwarf Sun Beyond Pluto
Scientists at places like NASA and famous observatories have deflected inquiries about the discovery for a few years now, mainly because they feared being associated with these "fringe" theories. But like it or not -- it has happened. Well... According to a team of Spanish artronomers who call themselves the StarViewer Team.
The group made the rounds of all the news web sites in the past two weeks, claiming they discovered something very significant. It's almost twice the size of Jupiter and just beyond our furthest planetoid, Pluto. Although it's not a planet, it appears to have planets or large satellites encircling it. It's what astronomers call a "brown dwarf star" and its official name is "G1.9".
----------------------------------------
Fast Facts for G1.9+0.3:

Credit X-ray (NASA/CXC/NCSU/S.Reynolds et al.); Radio (NSF/NRAO/VLA/Cambridge/D.Green et al.); Infrared (2MASS/UMass/IPAC-Caltech/NASA/NSF/CfA/E.Bressert)
Scale Left panel is 5 arcmin across.
Category Supernovas & Supernova Remnants
Coordinates (J2000) RA 17h 48m 45s | Dec -27° 10' 00"
Constellation Sagittarius
Observation Dates 2 pointings between 02/10/2007 & 03/03/2007
Observation Time 14 hours
Obs. IDs 6708, 8521
Color Code X-ray (orange); Radio (blue); Infrared (yellow/white stars)
Instrument ACIS
References Reynolds, S. et al. 2008, ApJ Letters (Accepted)
Distance Estimate 25,000 light years
(Centre of Galaxy is 30,000 light years.))
Release Date May 14, 2008
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So centre of galaxy (30,000 light years) too just beyond Pluto,, 8.3 light minutes away.In ??????
--------------------------------
(The nearest star is 4.2 light years away from our sun. We are 8.3 light minutes away from the Sun.
The distance to the outer most planet Pluto is about 13 light hours.)
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and yes it is moving, and once again this is all very old news, 3 too 4 years old.

Talk about tell the ATS members what they wanna hear....hence the 200 flags..for a short speculation with no links or credible source to back his claim..other then his word..and 200 flags..and how ever many stars.

28 pages..and still no credible source or data to back anyone's claim..

Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by karen61057

 

No this is niburu :

Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:00
[Photos]
Spanish Astronomers Claim Dwarf Sun Beyond Pluto
Scientists at places like NASA and famous observatories have deflected inquiries about the discovery for a few years now, mainly because they feared being associated with these "fringe" theories. But like it or not -- it has happened. Well... According to a team of Spanish artronomers who call themselves the StarViewer Team.
The group made the rounds of all the news web sites in the past two weeks, claiming they discovered something very significant. It's almost twice the size of Jupiter and just beyond our furthest planetoid, Pluto. Although it's not a planet, it appears to have planets or large satellites encircling it. It's what astronomers call a "brown dwarf star" and its official name is "G1.9".
----------------------------------------
Fast Facts for G1.9+0.3:

Credit X-ray (NASA/CXC/NCSU/S.Reynolds et al.); Radio (NSF/NRAO/VLA/Cambridge/D.Green et al.); Infrared (2MASS/UMass/IPAC-Caltech/NASA/NSF/CfA/E.Bressert)
Scale Left panel is 5 arcmin across.
Category Supernovas & Supernova Remnants
Coordinates (J2000) RA 17h 48m 45s | Dec -27° 10' 00"
Constellation Sagittarius
Observation Dates 2 pointings between 02/10/2007 & 03/03/2007
Observation Time 14 hours
Obs. IDs 6708, 8521
Color Code X-ray (orange); Radio (blue); Infrared (yellow/white stars)
Instrument ACIS
References Reynolds, S. et al. 2008, ApJ Letters (Accepted)
Distance Estimate 25,000 light years
(Centre of Galaxy is 30,000 light years.))
Release Date May 14, 2008
--------------------------------------
So centre of galaxy (30,000 light years) too just beyond Pluto,, 8.3 light minutes away.In ??????
--------------------------------
(The nearest star is 4.2 light years away from our sun. We are 8.3 light minutes away from the Sun.
The distance to the outer most planet Pluto is about 13 light hours.)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

and yes it is moving, and once again this is all very old news, 3 too 4 years old.

Starviewer does not exist as a team.

G1.9 is a supernova remnant 25,000 lightyears away, discovered in the 80s.

If a brown dwarf was right by Pluto, the outer planets would have been wrenched out of their orbits.

Try again.

reply to post by snapperski

Talk about tell the ATS members what they wanna hear....

>sigh< Sux, don't it? Welcome to "ATS 2010-2011-(2012 and beyond?....)....."

reply to post by BobAthome


>groan

reply to post by NyxOne


Cause it's ever happened and your an alien from space... NOBODY knows thats what this thread doesn't seem to get. The claims NOTHING is there is as ignorant as the claim that it IS FOR SURE. Skeptics as bad as crazies. Why would the world NOT end now? S*#@

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


I can think of many reasons to hide such an event. But, I can think of many more reasons why someone in the government would leak "credible" evidence to the public. There are too many people working in the government who would have seen something, if there was something to see.

Here's the thing though, it's not just the US government we are talking about, it's every government in the world. How many people would have access to this information and nothing has been leaked? This isn't a controlled government project like the Atomic bomb, this is something that can be seen by millions of people.

Yet, nothing of any substance has been leaked. I find this highly suspect. What about the construction crews of all the bunkers that are being built? What about the people stocking these bunkers? The cleaning crews, the IT guys. Is the government promising those folks room in there? You'd have to build bunker upon bunker just to keep up.

Someone would talk, someone would have evidence. It's time we stopped thinking the world worked like a Hollywood disaster film.

reply to post by snapperski

His statement that there exists a current media blackout regarding Elenin compared to the media attention that Halleys comet recieved was enough for my star and flag. It certainly makes a valid point.

i love this website because we encourage PROOF. not "gut feelings" or sensationalism. this is complete paranoia fueled nonsense.

Originally posted by snapperski
Talk about tell the ATS members what they wanna hear....hence the 200 flags..for a short speculation with no links or credible source to back his claim..other then his word..and 200 flags..and how ever many stars.

28 pages..and still no credible source or data to back anyone's claim..

I requested supporting evidence back on page 1 or 2 and got nothing from the OP. I've also alerted the mods to this BS post, but I guess they don't work on Fridays or something, because this crap is still ongoing.

reply to post by Feltrick


you may be right but I dont see all the shows on TV showing whistle blowers coming out from mcdonalds,bk and all the rest telling us that there kitchens are filthy or there food is bad for you or even staff telling TV about the dirty things they do to your food if they had a bad day, or any other sort of whistle blower in any org or group this is because even if I had solid proof or even tangible evidence to support the case of an ELE or any other agenda against the public then where do I go and who would listen.

We all are there to protect and serve and when someone says something that isnt accepted we the public police them for the people incharge. when someone steps out of the line then our job is to pull them back in

eg

Mom- I wish you would stop talking about this stuff
Dad - Maybe he/she is needing help

Outcome take them and get them fixed there program is broke and needs repair GO TO Dr

Dr - DO YOU TRUST YOUR GOVERMENT

Son/Daughter - NO

Dr - oh I see another conspiricy wacko or mental actavist ill have to lock you up then

Son/Daughter - mmmmm ok please help i must comply or be held prisoner the truth is I REALY DO TRUST OUR
GOVERMENTS

outcome if we dont do as we are told we will be freed from our freedom

Wold you risk it

Hello, fellow ATSers
Something back on page 3 of this thread posted by NWOnoworldeorder got me to thinking, the orbits of the outer planets should be showing signs of some sort of perturbance, if all this is true.
So I began researching from there.
I am far from finding the "smoking gun", but...
so far in my research, and I am no rocket scientist or physicist, I am finding the following:

In 1983, the IRAS (Infra Red Astronomy Satellite) telescope was first deployed on a 10 month mission to look at our universe with an infra-red telescope for the 1st time ever.

From that mission, a statement was released by the Washington Post, on December, 31 1983 was released, indicating that a brown dwarf planet was discovered
here is the Washington Post Article in full

By Thomas O'Toole, Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, December 30, 1983 ; Page A1 A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite. So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby "protostar" that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through. "All I can tell you is that we don't know what it is," Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief scientist for California's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview. The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 trillion miles. While that may seem like a great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone's throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto. "If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system," said Dr. James Houck of Cornell University's Center for Radio Physics and Space Research and a member of the IRAS science team. "If it is that close, I don't know how the world's planetary scientists would even begin to classify it." The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky from last January to November, when the satellite ran out of the supercold helium that allowed its telescope to see the coldest bodies in the heavens. The second observation took place six months after the first and suggested the mystery body had not moved from its spot in the sky near the western edge of the constellation Orion in that time. "This suggests it's not a comet because a comet would not be as large as the one we've observed and a comet would probably have moved," Houck said. "A planet may have moved if it were as close as 50 trillion miles but it could still be a more distant planet and not have moved in six months time." Whatever it is, Houck said, the mystery body is so cold its temperature is no more than 40 degrees above "absolute" zero, which is 456 degrees Fahrenheit below zero. The telescope aboard IRAS is cooled so low and is so sensitive it can "see" objects in the heavens that are only 20 degrees above absolute zero. When IRAS scientists first saw the mystery body and calculated that it could be as close as 50 trillion miles, there was some speculation that it might be moving toward Earth. "It's not incoming mail," Cal Tech's Neugebauer said. "I want to douse that idea with as much cold water as I can." Then, what is it? What if it is as large as Jupiter and so close to the sun it would be part of the solar system? Conceivably, it could be the 10th planet astronomers have searched for in vain. It also might be a Jupiter-like star that started out to become a star eons ago but never got hot enough like the sun to become a star. While they cannot disprove that notion, Neugebauer and Houck are so bedeviled by it that they do not want to accept it. Neugebauer and Houck "hope" the mystery body is a distant galaxy either so young that its stars have not begun to shine or so surrounded by dust that its starlight cannot penetrate the shroud. "I believe it's one of these dark, young galaxies that we have never been able to observe before," Neugebauer said. "If it is, then it is a major step forward in our understanding of the size of the universe, how the universe formed and how it continues to form as time goes on." The next step in pinpointing what the mystery body is, Neuegebauer said, is to search for it with the world's largest optical telescopes. Already, the 100-inch diameter telescope at Cerro del Tololo in Chile has begun its search and the 200-inch telescope at Palomar Mountain in California has earmarked several nights next year to look for it. If the body is close enough and emits even a hint of light, the Palomar telescope should find it since the infrared satellite has pinpointed its position. (ITEM 123)December 31, 1983, Saturday, Final Edition

This led me to the work of 2 astrophysicists: Dr John Murray, of the UK's Open University and Professor John Matese of University of Louisiana at Lafayette, Lafayette LA USA

Please bear with me as this is still a work in progress...

These 2 began tracking these findings together, independently. Their findings concurred.

I am still researching all of this, but from what I am seeing, (and please wait until I have a fully composed thesis before you flame me) is:

Both Elenin and PlanetX/Nibiru/ Tyche whatever you choose to call it, both exist.

There appears to be a Brown Dwarf, Companion to our Sun that is in a Long Range (elliptical)Orbit, that has recently entered our Solar System, after coming through the (hypothetical) Oort cloud.

The Oort cloud is a ring around our solar system, similar (in my simple mind) to the asteroid field that we know exists between Mars and Jupiter, Only way beyond Pluto.

The Oort cloud is where most of the comets that shoot around our solar system from time to time originate.

Thus far in my understanding of the research I am now doing, is that a Brown Dwarf, our Sun's Binary Twin/Counterpart, much larger than Jupiter is entering our solar system in it's regular ( albeit very long from our perspective) orbit; and in doing so, attracting new comets out of their normal routine in the Oort cloud with it's gravity, into our solar system.

Elenin is one of these comets that have been perturbed from it's usual place.

I really hate to leave you all hanging on this, but I must say, that NASA/JPL have eradicated many, MANY documents relating to this. I cant tell you all how many times I have gotten a "404" error today on documents that have multiple critical links leading to them.

I am still researching this, trying to get to the bottom of it.
I am telling you all this in hopes that some of you can assist me in his search to find the truth.
I am showing you the thread...please help me unravel it.

Peace

Originally posted by Elostone
Hello, fellow ATSers
Something back on page 3 of this thread posted by NWOnoworldeorder got me to thinking, the orbits of the outer planets should be showing signs of some sort of perturbance, if all this is true.
So I began researching from there.
I am far from finding the "smoking gun", but...
so far in my research, and I am no rocket scientist or physicist, I am finding the following:

In 1983, the IRAS (Infra Red Astronomy Satellite) telescope was first deployed on a 10 month mission to look at our universe with an infra-red telescope for the 1st time ever.

From that mission, a statement was released by the Washington Post, on December, 31 1983 was released, indicating that a brown dwarf planet was discovered
here is the Washington Post Article in full

By Thomas O'Toole, Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, December 30, 1983 ; Page A1 A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite. So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby "protostar" that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through. "All I can tell you is that we don't know what it is," Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief scientist for California's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview. The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 trillion miles. While that may seem like a great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone's throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto. "If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system," said Dr. James Houck of Cornell University's Center for Radio Physics and Space Research and a member of the IRAS science team. "If it is that close, I don't know how the world's planetary scientists would even begin to classify it." The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky from last January to November, when the satellite ran out of the supercold helium that allowed its telescope to see the coldest bodies in the heavens. The second observation took place six months after the first and suggested the mystery body had not moved from its spot in the sky near the western edge of the constellation Orion in that time. "This suggests it's not a comet because a comet would not be as large as the one we've observed and a comet would probably have moved," Houck said. "A planet may have moved if it were as close as 50 trillion miles but it could still be a more distant planet and not have moved in six months time." Whatever it is, Houck said, the mystery body is so cold its temperature is no more than 40 degrees above "absolute" zero, which is 456 degrees Fahrenheit below zero. The telescope aboard IRAS is cooled so low and is so sensitive it can "see" objects in the heavens that are only 20 degrees above absolute zero. When IRAS scientists first saw the mystery body and calculated that it could be as close as 50 trillion miles, there was some speculation that it might be moving toward Earth. "It's not incoming mail," Cal Tech's Neugebauer said. "I want to douse that idea with as much cold water as I can." Then, what is it? What if it is as large as Jupiter and so close to the sun it would be part of the solar system? Conceivably, it could be the 10th planet astronomers have searched for in vain. It also might be a Jupiter-like star that started out to become a star eons ago but never got hot enough like the sun to become a star. While they cannot disprove that notion, Neugebauer and Houck are so bedeviled by it that they do not want to accept it. Neugebauer and Houck "hope" the mystery body is a distant galaxy either so young that its stars have not begun to shine or so surrounded by dust that its starlight cannot penetrate the shroud. "I believe it's one of these dark, young galaxies that we have never been able to observe before," Neugebauer said. "If it is, then it is a major step forward in our understanding of the size of the universe, how the universe formed and how it continues to form as time goes on." The next step in pinpointing what the mystery body is, Neuegebauer said, is to search for it with the world's largest optical telescopes. Already, the 100-inch diameter telescope at Cerro del Tololo in Chile has begun its search and the 200-inch telescope at Palomar Mountain in California has earmarked several nights next year to look for it. If the body is close enough and emits even a hint of light, the Palomar telescope should find it since the infrared satellite has pinpointed its position. (ITEM 123)December 31, 1983, Saturday, Final Edition

This led me to the work of 2 astrophysicists: Dr John Murray, of the UK's Open University and Professor John Matese of University of Louisiana at Lafayette, Lafayette LA USA

Please bear with me as this is still a work in progress...

These 2 began tracking these findings together, independently. Their findings concurred.

I am still researching all of this, but from what I am seeing, (and please wait until I have a fully composed thesis before you flame me) is:

Both Elenin and PlanetX/Nibiru/ Tyche whatever you choose to call it, both exist.

There appears to be a Brown Dwarf, Companion to our Sun that is in a Long Range (elliptical)Orbit, that has recently entered our Solar System, after coming through the (hypothetical) Oort cloud.

The Oort cloud is a ring around our solar system, similar (in my simple mind) to the asteroid field that we know exists between Mars and Jupiter, Only way beyond Pluto.

The Oort cloud is where most of the comets that shoot around our solar system from time to time originate.

Thus far in my understanding of the research I am now doing, is that a Brown Dwarf, our Sun's Binary Twin/Counterpart, much larger than Jupiter is entering our solar system in it's regular ( albeit very long from our perspective) orbit; and in doing so, attracting new comets out of their normal routine in the Oort cloud with it's gravity, into our solar system.

Elenin is one of these comets that have been perturbed from it's usual place.

I really hate to leave you all hanging on this, but I must say, that NASA/JPL have eradicated many, MANY documents relating to this. I cant tell you all how many times I have gotten a "404" error today on documents that have multiple critical links leading to them.

I am still researching this, trying to get to the bottom of it.
I am telling you all this in hopes that some of you can assist me in his search to find the truth.
I am showing you the thread...please help me unravel it.

Peace

adsabs.harvard.edu...

And, uh, no, they don't. Tyche is hypothetical, and vague statements do not support the existence of a woo-woo planet.

JPL also does not have 'documents'. It lists objects, and calculates their orbits.

Lying is very bad unless you have links to prove otherwise.

reply to post by odyseusz
I agree, I posted a thread when all this started that it was about the size of a VW, no one wanted to hear that. Plus they can move the SIS all over the place and do all the time.

WOW THAT IS SO COOL!