Mainstream Media coverage.. MASS SIGHTINGS

reply to post by PrinceDreamer

For example the Jerusalem video, people here all claim it was CGI, yet in this video we here from MSM that incident was film by 4 different people from 4 different locations and seen by hundreds of people, if that is the case it cannot be CGI

Actually Skeptic Overlord recreated the video to show exactly how it was made. And other people have shown that the audio tracks were edited into the videos.

4 people? One of the most important religious areas in the world and only four people saw it? riiiight.

People are just to busy screaming Chinese lanterns, CGI, HOAX and everything else they can think off, without any real critical investigation or looking into the background.

Unless there are multiple eyewitnesses (and because of technology these days) multiple videos, posted sightings often are fake.

For examples of good ones look into the O'Hare airport incident and if you want to go further back don't forget Kecksburg. There are tons more. Look at how many people spoke up about the Phoenix lights...

And besides if you don't like these videos, you could actually stop watching them, just a thought...

Most skeptics want to believe... They just don't want to be tricked into it.

reply to post by ka119


cool video, i really enjoyed it
you do know , that clip at the end of the area 51 caller was a hoax.
the caller called back in another video and he said himself that it was a hoax and he was only acting.
now that gave me chills

Great video.

Man, this is only the beginning. There has to be others out there, I just don't understand how someone can disbelieve at this point.

Thanks for all the replys, to the few 'debunkers' out there, do us all a favor and leave the thread. I have absolutely no interest in hearing what you have to say, there will always be people out there to caught up in their own beliefs to expand their knowledge and understanding. For those of us who keep an open mind and would like to try and figure out this mysterious universe around us, props.
Imho i believe that the second call was fake, my gut instinct (as many others said before me) tells me that the first call was real, humans have a keen eye in identifying genuine fear in a person, and i believe that the man recorded was in fact telling the truth. If the government (or whoever shut off the radio transmition) really didn't wanted that information leaked they would us force to make sure the public knew it was a 'hoax'. they would either find the guy and force him to call in or pay an actor to call in. Either way i believe the 2nd call is a fake, our government is good at that stuff.
I do believe that these "extra-dimensional" beings have integrated into our government and society, this can be the answer to many of our unexplained phenomena that we discuss on this website. The swirling 'clouds' that we saw in Denmark, imo, are perhaps portals to this other dimension. The way they moved and then the way they eventually disappeared leaves an unsettling feeling in my stomach. I believe that the governments of the countries where that phenomena took place just used 'missile testing' as a cover up so that the population would not be swung into mass hysteria.
Someone mentioned contact with these beings, they mentioned them looking like gray aliens. My roommate awoke me in the middle of the night about a week ago, he was fumbling around in his backpack at about 3 in the morning. He does odd stuff in his sleep all the time so i thought nothing of this, in the morning i asked what he was doing and he said he must have been sleeping because he doesn't remember it. A couple days later i told him about all this stuff and showed him the video and he smiled, he pulled out a notebook and said "dude, i found what i was doing in my bag the other night" he showed me a picture he drew all over his econ notes, the picture was of a grey alien humaniod looking thing surrounded by a strange glow (like seen around the ships in the video) i was awe struck.
Anyways, keep the posting up, i find this all very interesting and love hearing peoples ideas on all this. Looks like s**t may hit the fan in 2012 after all eh?

reply to post by boncho


www.abovetopsecret.com...
Do us all a favor and go read that post. Thanks

reply to post by ka119

Thanks for all the replys, to the few 'debunkers' out there, do us all a favor and leave the thread. I have absolutely no interest in hearing what you have to say, there will always be people out there to caught up in their own beliefs to expand their knowledge and understanding.

With that logic, the Skeptics could just ask you to leave ATS, you wouldn't... Don't expect to control who posts in your thread.

Originally posted by ka119
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www.abovetopsecret.com...
Do us all a favor and go read that post. Thanks

Well, that goes both ways doesn't it...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Just so you know, I addressed my concerns I have with fakes in this thread. Why it is bad for UFOlogy in general and how it will further alienate the mainstream. That has nothing to do with "debunking".

As far as the Jerusalem video is concerned, if you want to ignore the evidence of it being a hoax it's up to you.

Originally posted by boncho

Originally posted by ka119
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www.abovetopsecret.com...
Do us all a favor and go read that post. Thanks

Well, that goes both ways doesn't it...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Just so you know, Text. Why it is bad for UFOlogy in general and how it will further alienate the mainstream. That has nothing to do with "debunking".

As far as the Jerusalem video is concerned, if you want to ignore the evidence of it being a hoax it's up to you.

Then you have put in your two cents. Stop calling people "hoaxers" and attacking them for their input on this thread. I could care less if you post here, just keep respectful and stop trying to act like you have an opposition to everyone's posts. Its okay to not know champ, that's what the website is for

reply to post by ka119

Then you have put in your two cents. Stop calling people "hoaxers" and attacking them for their input on this thread. I could care less if you post here, just keep respectful and stop trying to act like you have an opposition to everyone's posts. Its okay to not know champ, that's what the website is for

The person that I called a "Hoaxer" was the caller to the c2c show. Who called in and said that he had perpetrated a hoax. So I think the moniker of 'Hoaxer' is appropriate.

If you read my post you will also notice I said that the event was strange, and seemed out of character for someone claiming to have hoaxed. As in, it didn't make sense to me.

Who did I attack?

This video was posted in another thread, but judging by some of the reactions here... This thread could use it too.

before the aliens :-) first is the asteroids , isnt what Von Braun suposedly said?

stay well :-)

check this one on media China Twelfth Five-Year Plan may add Alien contact

dailycosmicnews.blogspot.com...

Originally posted by boncho
4 people? One of the most important religious areas in the world and only four people saw it? riiiight.

Your reading comprehension skills aren't really up to par. He very clearly states that HUNDREDS saw the phenomena and that there were 4 people that FILMED it.


Pay closer attention if you want to thump your chest next time.

Having seen a live alien being I have to say that there must be several different varieties visiting the earth for different reasons. The one I saw I am convinced was as surprised at seeing me as I was her.

She was a Scientist, uninterested in humanity. Her mission was to take samples of our planets surface, the flora and fauna. She was taking samples with a device which was far superior to anything we have and was hooked up directly too her own biology.

At the time I discovered her working, she was taking readings of a creek in mid autumn.

Her ability to work unseen by humans in her original form was something to behold, I knew once I saw her and my mind had the time to 'wrap around' what it was I was seeing, she turned and saw me. There had been plenty of time to take in every nuance of her physical form, yet she did turn into a beautiful humanoid when we sat together to 'talk'. This she did because it was easier for me to accept her from what she knew of humanity, but I would have enjoyed more her original form.

She was telepathic and had the ability to make me forget all she said, yet I was able to remember everything else. It has always been something i wanted to delve into, to discover what was said to me, but I also know that I would not want to do hypnotherapy because there were other implants given to me that I would not wish to divulge to anyone.

Over the years since this meeting, things do come to me which I would have no way of knowing other than to foresee events which affect not only humanity but our planet as a whole.

I personally believe the man from Coasttocoastam and remember the night when he called in. There are many species, not all are bad. The ones he was introduced to are and have nothing short of total destruction as their plan.

reply to post by boncho


I took what you said to mean that you were not so sure he was actually hoaxing. that perhaps he had been coerced into the last call or that his voice had been used technologically to make the reported final call, BUT where is THAT taped recording?

Originally posted by FlawlessVictory

Originally posted by boncho
4 people? One of the most important religious areas in the world and only four people saw it? riiiight.

Your reading comprehension skills aren't really up to par. He very clearly states that HUNDREDS saw the phenomena and that there were 4 people that FILMED it.


Pay closer attention if you want to thump your chest next time.

edit on 15-4-2011 by FlawlessVictory because: (no reason given)

Sorry, you are right there was a mistake. In my writing skills though, not reading. Saw it/Filmed it....The videos that came out were with the same editor, same style.

Where are the hundreds of witnesses exactly?

The phoenix lights case is one of the best for witnesses, there were over a thousand if I remember right, and the air force received a ton of calls that night. Lot of stills and video to go along with it, as you would expect.

Of course, please don't take this as I'm saying a sighting can't be credible without a lot of witnesses or film. Only in this case it is important because of the location.

reply to post by antar
This is where the caller calls back and says it's a hoax. He says his name is Brian. He is pretty strange in the confession though.

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It's not the same guy. The one in the hoaxed video has a slight lisp, the original caller has a more northern influenced voice.

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by boncho

 

It's not the same guy. The one in the hoaxed video has a slight lisp, the original caller has a more northern influenced voice.

I know this has been discussed tons here on ATS (being how old it is). I've read through some of the old threads. But I never saw if someone addressed the fact that the guy says he regularly called.. If he did, where are his other calls?

Originally posted by RainDog
reply to post by ka119

 

yes, it is a joke. The guy even called back about a year later and admitted it.

if you were convinced that it was real the first time... because of "gullibility" ... then what makes you so immune to gullibility when they tell you it's a joke?

are you now all the wiser because you now "know" it was a joke because he claimed it was? nobody can pull the wool over your eyes dear audience member.. because you're in on the wise point.. you're an educated reasonable ind and it being a "joke" ... or confessed "hoax" is the REAL truth right???

fool someone into believing they cannot be fooled...
and you can fool them 100% by supplying a seemingly reasonable skeptical option to the story...

the fact remains... this 'message' was put out there...
whether it is lies or not doesn't matter...

the message entered the collective conciousness... and it's meme remains echoing...

aliens or not... do you think any depopulation agenda would want people in high danger areas knowing about coming catastrophies??

oh we're sooo wise when we hear something was a hoax... yeah.. debunked.. yeah sleuthed and gumshoed on the spot!

we're so clever us humans.. we know whats up.. nobody can fool us...

//puke//

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