"The Source Field Investigations", the new book by David Wilcock

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by metalshredmetal

 

if you did your own research you would know that the Russian government's Space program used THIS scientist's pyramid-charged quartz crystals in their own space station. the team's work is not unnoticed, or unknown, or dismissed.

I do not believe you. You have already lied about what I posted. Why should anyone believe this claim?

In January of 2001, a Dr. Volodymyr Krasnoholovets from the Institute of Physics in the Ukraine contacted me. (The Institute of Physics was considered the top military research institute of the former Soviet Union.) This institute helped develop the Russian cruise missiles, remote sensing devices, satellites, space station technology, and other military technology.

He even got support from the Russian government for this massive building project and convinced them in 1998 to take a kilo of rocks that had been placed in one of his pyramids on board the MIR space station.

In October of 1998, crystals that were placed in one of the Russian Pyramids were brought aboard the RUSSIAN MIR SPACE STATION and remained on board for over a year. Crystals were also brought on the INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION for 10 days by cosmonaut Afanasiev.

The next photo shows Alexander Golod with Cosmonaut Georgiy Grechko and G. Lozino-Lozinskiy during construction of the largest pyramid. G, Lozino-Lozinskiy was the inventor of the Buran rocket, considered the most powerful rocket in the world. Grorgiy Grechko was the Soviets 4th cosmonaut.

Olexander Strokach, Dr., senior scientist, vice-head of the department, and Mykola Morozovsky, Dr., senior scientist, for about 25 years have been working in the Department of Receivers of Radiation at the Institute of Physics, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine. Dr. Strokach graduated as a theoretical physicist from the Taras Shevchenko Kyiv National University. At the department, he is working as a theoretical and experimental physicist. Besides, he is a leading technologist of the department. During 1998, he conducted research in the Seul University, South Korea. Dr. Morozovsky graduated as an experimental physicist from the Taras Shevchenko Kyiv National University as well. At the department, he is a leading specialist in the area of microelectronics. Drs. Strokach and Morozovsky have had a strong R&D skill and experience in the work associated with the technological elaboration, production and application of pyroelectrical receivers. This is a unique laboratory involved with other scientists in developing leading edge technologies (I would add that in modern Russia, Germany, France and many other countries there are no such remarkable specialists at all.) In particular, our receivers have successfully functioned in the spectroradiometric equipment of numerous military and civil spaceships. Specifically: the Russian Mir space station; space satellites, which investigated Venus and comets; artificial satellites and aircrafts, which carried out soil investigation, etc. Being certificated in the former USSR, our receivers have worked as standard measuring tools and control devices measuring the energy and power of coherent and noncoherent electromegnetic radiations; the receivers were introduced in medical facilities, for instance such as "Differential infra-red pyrometer for medical diagnostics" that has been functioning in the Ophthalmology Clinic of Odesa (Ukraine) for ten years, etc., etc.

Participants (O.S. and V.K.) of the project have had a strong R&D experience in the work associated with the technological elaboration, production and application of pyroelectrical receivers. Dr. Olexander Strokach is the vice-chief of the Department of Receivers of Radiation, he is a leading technologist of the department. This is a unique laboratory involved with other scientists of our Institute in developing leading edge technologies. In particular, our receivers have successfully functioned in the spectroradiometric equipment of numerous military and civil spaceships. Specifically: the Russian Mir space station; space satellites, which investigated Venus and comets; artificial satellites and aircrafts, which carried out soil investigation, etc. Being certificated in the former USSR, our receivers have worked as standard measuring tools and control devices measuring the energy and power of coherent and noncoherent electromagnetic radiations; the receivers were introduced in medical facilities, for instance such as "Differential infra-red pyrometer for medical diagnostics" that has been functioning in the Ophthalmology Clinic of Odesa (Ukraine) for ten years, etc., etc.

Originally posted by stereologist

Actually this shows you have done no research, metalshredmetal. Claims about pyramids are not new. It's a silly craze that shows up every once in a while and each time it is as ridiculous as it was before.

Pyramids power is just another laughable pseudoscience topic for the gullible.

Fraud can best be explained by three factors:

* a supply of motivated offenders,
* the availability of suitable targets
* and the absence of capable guardians

In the case of New Age frauds like Wilcock, he has ample loads of motivation to defraud (money, power, influence, satisfaction of his attention whoreness, etc), the availability of suckers is a given (this thread, others like it, book buyers, conference attendees, etc).

The absence of guardians comes not from the lack of attempting to instill knowledge in the suckered but from their insistence on being sucker-targets. Frauds know that there exists imbalances in the sucker-targets, an emotional need, a desire to "feel good", damning the facts/frauds that exist and are perpetuated on them over and over again.

Under the affects of their state of psychotic denial and unnatural gullibility, sucker-targets are more addicted than heroin addicts. HAs know and admit they have a problem.

Wilcock leeches off the ill, sucker-targets who cannot and/or will not change their delusional views without significant intervention. This is how frauds like Wilcock work. Just how scummy is that?

reply to post by Melyanna



I think you make many excellent points about David W.

I don't begrudge him his income from writing.

He certainly has charted an unusual life course and bucked a lot of high powered contrarian hassles in the process.

And, I think he has AT LEAST produced a LOT of evidence well worth a LOT of thoughtful pondering and sorting through.

He has done a lot to help wake folks up to the fact that

WE HAVE NOT BEEN IN KANSAS ANY LONGER for a very long time.

On that score alone, I think he deserves a Nobel Prize.

Except the Nobels are given by the same dirty oligarchy perpetrating so many of the evils David alerts us about.

Wheeee.

Giving a Nobel Peace prize to a fraud is aligned with the standards of the day.

Speaking of Super-Moderators...

Springer On The Fraud David Wilcock

reply to post by metalshredmetal


This is just a long winded copy of the same questionable material that has been splattered all over websites without thinking. The claims that material was taken into space aboard the MIR are not shown to be true by repeating such stories. Where is the official MIR info about this event? Where is there anything to substantiate any of these claims?

From this page we learn that

Krasnoholovets Volodymyr PhD, Candidate of Sciences in Physics and Mathematics, Senior Research Fellow

is a real person, but his important contributions appear to be studies about hydrogen bonding.

www.iop.kiev.ua...

Krasnogolovets V.V., Tomchuk P.M., Lukyanets S.P., Proton transfer and coherent phenomena in molecular structures with hydrogen bonds, Adv. Chem. Phys., vol. 125, 351 (2003)

I have looked and I can easily learn that crystals were manufactured on MIR. There is no evidence that crystals from pyramids were taken up to MIR.
history.nasa.gov...

Here is another site with the history of the work done on MIR. No mention of crystals taken to MIR.
www.astronautix.com...

reply to post by stereologist

question here and i can already predict either a negative remark or it being ignored but i have to wonder...what is the point in debating this for pages? its a post to inspire believers just like an evolutionist will probably never covert a creationist and vice versa so... why cant the believers do what this post was made for...talking about his work in a positive light not saying you cant have an opinion but dont whine about him being fake or not wanna debate post it in the debate section and have at it i bet no one has debated if he is full of crap or not.

reply to post by SpiritWolfPup


your answer, in a nutshell:

1. some people have an agenda of anger and hatred, intolerance and disrespect.

2. some people have an agenda of understanding and tolerance.

most of the time on ATS "david wilcock" threads attract people #1. these people are information pollution.

double

Originally posted by metalshredmetal
reply to post by SpiritWolfPup

 

your answer, in a nutshell:

1. some people have an agenda of anger and hatred, intolerance and disrespect.

Yes, being conned out of your hard earned money can make one a bit angry. But what can make one really angry is seeing that same conman trick countless other innocent people, some of whom can barely make ends meet or even some who are mentally disabled. That tends to make people snap and loose their manners.

reply to post by polarwarrior


respectfully noted but if people believe in him as the person obviously does defending him he either 1. doesnt think he is a fraud and wants to share the info. though that is hard when your arguing or 2. likes to be scammed in either case when the post is completely pro david wilcock should be able to share views without being attacked if the post said "WHo is DW Or What is your opinion on DW or even something like that i wouldnt care if they faught to the death (not literaly) over him but since its for his followers it seems rude. Like if someone busted into a church service and tried to debate if there is a god.

reply to post by SpiritWolfPup


"Forums are not perfect worlds." ~TheExopolitician circa 20Feb2012

reply to post by TheExopolitician


not saying they are but if someone doesnt bring attention to it nothing for sure will be done not saying any of this to be disrespectful well anyhow im kinda interested in what the book says fake/fraud or not

Originally posted by SpiritWolfPup
reply to post by TheExopolitician

 

not saying they are but if someone doesnt bring attention to it nothing for sure will be done not saying any of this to be disrespectful well anyhow im kinda interested in what the book says fake/fraud or not

I encourage you to read it and make up your own mind. I did and "The Source Field Investigations" is a mumbo-jumbo recombination of the work of others slapped together in an incoherent attempt at New Age pseodophysics.

I am trying to spare you. It's like someone warning you not to fall for the Three Card Monty scam but, as usual, someone always gets suckered in anyway!

I guess it's called experiencing life. It's all good. We're all entitled to believe what we want at the end of the day so...

reply to post by SpiritWolfPup


If you are interested in being a fan of charlatans then it is easy to go to their websites and dote on them.

The issue is whether or not any of this is meaningful especially with regards to 2012. I say Wilcock is a well known hoaxer. The material posted here reinforces that position.

If you think this is tough, then visit a scientific meeting where ideas are discussed and tough questions are asked. Wilcock is a fraud. He misrepresents the work of others. He isn't even original.

reply to post by metalshredmetal


Here is a typical misrepresentation.

your answer, in a nutshell:

1. some people have an agenda of anger and hatred, intolerance and disrespect.
2. some people have an agenda of understanding and tolerance.

most of the time on ATS "david wilcock" threads attract people #1. these people are information pollution.

1. To point to a fake and show they are a fake is not hate. Whiners do this since they have no evidence to support the claims of the fraud
2. An agenda of tolerance is misguided when it supports frauds that steal money from the gullible.

Wilcock is a magnet for the gullible. That is his source of revenue. Consider questioning what is written by Wilcock. Go to the articles he references and see if those articles actually state what he claims.

There are all sorts of wacky claims and few require people to sit and wait. Think about the implications of a claim. Is it possible to detect the events before the due date? Are the claims even based on the referenced evidence?

One of the odd things is that people that marry many times often marry someone just like their first spouse. They end up getting divorced and for the same reasons. Are these people doomed to failure or are they simply trying to prove to themselves they were not wrong the first time?

Int he case of Wilcock they probably "married" to him in one book. They found out he was a fraud. Now they are trying to prove to themselves that they were not wrong the first time, the second time, the third time, the fourth time, the ...

Originally posted by stereologist

The issue is whether or not any of this is meaningful especially with regards to 2012. I say Wilcock is a well known hoaxer. The material posted here reinforces that position.

If you think this is tough, then visit a scientific meeting where ideas are discussed and tough questions are asked. Wilcock is a fraud. He misrepresents the work of others. He isn't even original.

Wilcock has never once solicited an investigative, scientific journal to review his pseuodophysics and he never will. I doubt he has ever been invited to a meeting of physicists or any other related scientific group and, again, I doubt he ever will.

Why? Simple.

They see science frauds like Wilcock every day. He's not only nothing special, being unoriginal, he's boring as a kudzu. The scientific community of reputation doesn't want his stench anywhere near them.