inflation hits home........

reply to post by mike_trivisonno


personally i stick with almond butter.
about 5 bucks a jar for organic at trader joes now.
from my understanding it is far more healthy than peanut butter.

Originally posted by rubbertramp
reply to post by mike_trivisonno

 

personally i stick with almond butter.
about 5 bucks a jar for organic at trader joes now.
from my understanding it is far more healthy than peanut butter.

It sounds tastier too. Almond butter I love almonds. But 5 bucks is expensive for me. Peanut butter I get free at the pantry. We are going to the pantry just to survive week to week now, when I used to go maybe once a month when work was slow for my hubby who is in construction, now we depend on it every week.

this isnt the fault of the evil corporations that always get the blame

food prices and gas prices are all the direct result of the FEDERAL RESERVE

this is the consequences when you keep printing and printing and printing and printing money.

buy low while you can

canned goods are the smart way to go right along with mres people most canned goods have a shelf life of 12 months.

most meats frozen will last 12 months in a freezer such as steak all anyone has to do is google meat shelf lives if your worried about power to keep the fridge and freezers going solar power has become pretty cheap.

theres alot of knowledge available on youtube on how to store food.


last thought: BE PREPARED CHANCE ALWAYS FAVORS THE PREPARE MIND.


and please for the love of aqua budda PLEASE DON'T THINK THEY GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE THERE TO SAVE YOU!!!!!

they are why you have to do this in the first place.

Never fear inflation, for it only means money is passed around.

The only issue, is where the profits from the coporations making those money stops.

If it is not passed around back to its workers but hoarded up by the bosses, then only hell will descend.

May the corporations wake up, as well as international trade organisations or CARTELS monopolizing resources of Earth, which is SHARED by all humanity.

If not, then push will only come to shove.....It is the only solution...

reply to post by rubbertramp


Mmmm. Almonds are good, too. A bit more pricey, though.

Most nut butter will be an excellent source of energy.

reply to post by neo96

this isnt the fault of the evil corporations that always get the blame

i agree with this to a point.
yet also believe that the corps are more than willing to push the price envelope to the highest profit point possible before actual sales begin to slack off.
gas is a good example of this, the corps. could still be racking in profit at a buck less a gallon, yet why?
we have not really revolted yet, although, beginning to drive less still means at a higher price they still bring in the same profit as selling more for less.

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101

Never fear inflation, for it only means money is passed around.

but for those of us paying more without any increase in income it does kick us in the ass.

reply to post by rubbertramp


we agree to disagree then

corporations exist to make money and when benefits increase every year when raw materials increase every year and when fuel increases every year and when the value of a dollar decreases everyday.

this is the result if a business cant make any money they cant provide products and services.

in my little opinion the devaluation of the dollar is the culprit here.

reply to post by neo96

actually were not that far off in our beliefs.
the other thing i take into consideration is the ceo pay and benifits.
american corp. ceo's used to bring in far less as a percentage.
i'd have to look it up for actualy figures, but as my mind remembers, ceo's used to make 4 or 5 times the income of their average employee.
nowadays that percentage is hundreds, if not thousands of times higher.
this is not really a complaint on my part, just trying to point out the difference in the way the companies are run now compared to the past.

Here is an article from zero hedge that shows the price of
a one years supply of freeze dried food up almost 50%,in fact
it seems to be the case that you can only buy a six month supply
for almost the same price as a years supply,that's a huge increase in
just six months time.

Here is the link
www.zerohedge.com...

Originally posted by rubbertramp
personally i stick with almond butter.

I've never tried Almond Butter, but now, thanks to you, I have an insatiable craving for Cashew Butter. It's been awhile since I've had any, and the closest place to get any is about an hour away. thanks

Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
Air is pumped into the bag to keep the chips from breaking.

That may be so, but it seems that the air we had about 20 years ago was alot tougher than the air of today. Back when I was a young'in, they didn't need to put near as much air into the bag as they do today.

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A star for sharing.

Yet, a person can order a fast food pizza for $12 (Pizza Hut specialty pizzas). OR... get 10 BK "stacker" bacon burgers for $10, add a couple of value menu fries for $2 more, and you have a pretty decently filling meal. My point is that the masses are encouraged to eat JUNK like Taco Bell's ground "beef" which is really only 35% beef (at what percentage of content is beef no longer "beef?") and other fast food options VERY CHEAPLY.

They see us as cows and have created "slop houses" in the form of fast food restaurants all around us, VERY CONVENIENT putting all of those feeding troths for us at every corner in almost every town. Us herd animals know where the good eats be, and cheaps too. After a while, funeral homes will no longer need to embalm the average American citizen because of all of the chemicals and preservatives our bodies absorb via fast food filth. Already, in foreign countries, people investigating and searching for American deceased and buried know to look for the graves where little to no grass has grown, --because the preservatives in American bodies poisons the ground directly above them. A friend who works in Personnel Recovery for the government gave me a lengthy lecture about the little known decomposition details of people who once ate a lot of American fast food.

So, go to the grocery store and get the 'normal' quality food, and it costs a LOT. Imagine trying to eat an organic diet with healthy, non-chemical-laced ingredients. You'd better be making at least $75,000 per year salary, and then I bet it would be tough.

They make it SO EASY to feed your family ----from Taco Bell, McDonalds, Wendy's, Burger King, Pizza Hut and others. Hey, at least you won't be starving, but there's just something about all that fast food consumption that deteriorates the soul if it becomes a STAPLE of your diet. It leads to all sorts of medical issues that will surely keep you from ever reaching the age required to collect your social security benefits. And maybe that's the TRAP.

They make it easy to eat the slop that will ultimately take you down before you can recover benefits from a program (Social Security) that you've paid for for all these years. The solution isn't to fix social security, it's to make it so hard to afford good food that you'll resort to fast food and die off early. For the first time since American life spans have been recorded, our average life span SHORTENED a few years ago instead of LENGTHENING. TPTB are succeeding in their plan to reduce numbers, or at least to curtail them. For now, it's subtle.

Soon, it probably won't be. And higher prices are the first harbingers of the disasters to come. This is financial foreshadowing of things looming just around the corner. Stock up and prepare.

reply to post by rubbertramp


people also tend to forget some other facts when it comes to us food production

farm acerage decreases every day in america

seed, and fertizler prices increases everyear

farm equipment has become so expensive most people would be shocked $250k for a tractor, $400k for acombine $200k for planter etc.

then there are government subsidies guaranteeing price and or paying people not to farm.

all the government regulations and epa saying how you can plant what fertizilers you can and cant use and what pesticides to use.

the days of the mom and pop farmers are over you have to be a multimillionaire just to be able to farm not all farmers plant something and get to reap it too hot a summer too much rain and the crops is lost.

if they lose the crop they get paid a pitence from their crop insurance and that food doesn't reach the market.

and the last two things most people are not considering population growth in america and burning food for fuel.

there are many things to consider but in my first post has the biggest impact.

I went to wal-mart to get a mop replacement sponge piece. I have owned the mop for 6 years, it is a butterfly mop. My favorite mop. Well a couple of weeks ago and after looking in Wal-marts and Targets, I finally found the Mainstay mop sponges. It was the same price as always, but boy o boy, they really took the quality away. The sponge is thinner, with plastic insert parts no more screws to attach it to the mop, and the scratch pad part is gone. I thought " Oh .." The rececession isn't over yet, and this is sad. I think everyone is tired and have lost hope over the last 5 years, since 2007 when the housing loans started to fail. I guess the depression went on for ten years.... It changed my grandmother forever, and her family wasn't that wealthy before the depression. She was so frugal it was painful to watch sometimes. Hygiene was lost in some areas of her life. I really draw the line at washing baggies out to reuse. She taught us all how to live on less.


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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by rubbertramp

 

people also tend to forget some other facts when it comes to us food production

farm acerage decreases every day in america

seed, and fertizler prices increases everyear

farm equipment has become so expensive most people would be shocked $250k for a tractor, $400k for acombine $200k for planter etc.

then there are government subsidies guaranteeing price and or paying people not to farm.




Some farmers are renting farms out from landowners who have had the farms in their families for 250 years or more. These farmers get to claim rent off as an exspense against their income taxes. The farmer also does not pay property tax. All of this is an incentive to help farmers. There are places in Indiana that are very empty and remote, so I would say there is alot of farm land available to farm. People should be rehabbing the cities, such as down town Detroit, MI to live in.


all the government regulations and epa saying how you can plant what fertizilers you can and cant use and what pesticides to use.

the days of the mom and pop farmers are over you have to be a multimillionaire just to be able to farm not all farmers plant something and get to reap it too hot a summer too much rain and the crops is lost.

if they lose the crop they get paid a pitence from their crop insurance and that food doesn't reach the market.

and the last two things most people are not considering population growth in america and burning food for fuel.

there are many things to consider but in my first post has the biggest impact.

edit on 12-4-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by rubbertramp

 

people also tend to forget some other facts when it comes to us food production

farm acerage decreases every day in america

seed, and fertizler prices increases everyear

farm equipment has become so expensive most people would be shocked $250k for a tractor, $400k for acombine $200k for planter etc.

then there are government subsidies guaranteeing price and or paying people not to farm.



Some farmers are paying rent to long time land owners who have moved on to become Degreed Professionals
living in other cities/states. Farms that have been in families for 250 years or more and no one actually farms it but rent it out. This lowers some of the farmers costs, they don't pay property taxes and can claim rent as an expense on their income taxes.

all the government regulations and epa saying how you can plant what fertizilers you can and cant use and what pesticides to use.

the days of the mom and pop farmers are over you have to be a multimillionaire just to be able to farm not all farmers plant something and get to reap it too hot a summer too much rain and the crops is lost.

if they lose the crop they get paid a pitence from their crop insurance and that food doesn't reach the market.

and the last two things most people are not considering population growth in america and burning food for fuel.

there are many things to consider but in my first post has the biggest impact.

edit on 12-4-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

reply to post by neo96


yes, all very true.
also, we now let china purchase american farm land in order to grow food to be shipped back to china. we see none of it.
not to mention the rise in imported food from places like mexico.
a form of outsourcing actually.
like i said, we pretty much agree, yet i do believe there is a part that can only be classified as corporate greed, higher profit margins in the pockets of the ceo's.
not to mention the increase in basic corporate welfare, which is kinda' going off topic but worth discussion none the less.

reply to post by frugal

Some farmers are paying rent to long time land owners who have moved on to become Degreed Professionals living in other cities/states. Farms that have been in families for 250 years or more and no one actually farms it but rent it out. This lowers some of the farmers costs, they don't pay property taxes and can claim rent as an expense on their income taxes.

so they are earning a pitence instead of earning more cash off the land like they could with a multicrop rotation system.

reply to post by rubbertramp


lol we are never going to agree about corporate greed but had a good chat man.

peace

reply to post by neo96

lol we are never going to agree about corporate greed but had a good chat man. peace

has been a good exchange.
one last question then.
you find it absolutely a-ok as far as the actual numbers that the ceo's are paid?
this is really my only bitch, i'd personally rather see a bit of that money go to the employees as an increase in pay.
i think some of these numbers are quite obscene.
that is all.

reply to post by rubbertramp


ok final answer and moving on.

i don't have a problem with what people get paid they are taking all the risk so shouldn't they get something out of it ?

no

i don't want anyone dictating to me what my paycheck will be i do the work i take the risks and the hardships i want the reward.