Obama’s constitutional law professor blasts the president over Bradley Manning’s treatment.

Harvard Constitutional law professor Laurence Tribe, who quit his post as an adviser to the Obama administration about three months ago, is just one of nearly 300 of the nation's top legal minds and other experts to sign an open letter calling on the government to treat Bradley Manning as it does other prisoners.

Manning has been held in solitary confinement in the Quantico military brig since July. He gets one hour of exercise per-day, must be checked by guards every five minutes and is forced to sleep naked and undergo a nude inspection every morning. Critics of this treatment say it amounts to torture and an illegal punishment for an American who has not been convicted of a crime.

Tribe wrote that Manning's treatment "violates his person and his liberty without due process of law and in the way it administers cruel and unusual punishment of a sort that cannot be constitutionally inflicted even upon someone convicted of terrible offenses, not to mention someone merely accused of such offenses".

"Private Manning has been designated as an appropriate subject for both Maximum Security and Prevention of Injury (POI) detention," the open letter explained. "But he asserts that his administrative reports consistently describe him as a well-behaved prisoner who does not fit the requirements for Maximum Security detention. The brig psychiatrist began recommending his removal from Prevention of Injury months ago. These claims have not been publicly contested. In an Orwellian twist, the spokesman for the brig commander refused to explain the forced nudity “because to discuss the details would be a violation of Manning’s privacy.”

When your professor, the one who taugh you about the system of justice, is upset with you--you better believe something is wrong. This issue is ubiquitously ignored by the MSM. The progressive media is covering it, but Manning is being given the guantanamo treatment. This is cruel and unusual punishment, which there is no justification for, let alone if he was convicted of a crime. Let him be tried in court and if he is punshised, it should be according to the law.


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Is this directed by an Obama executive order?
Indefinite detention without trial like Bush did?

I'm not going to say how we ought to treat Barry when he is taken out of office and tried for treason....because...it would get me thrown off this site for sure.....I will say though that it would be cruel and unusual punishment if Barry were to be made to sleep nude and having to be checked each morning by " Female" guards....lol...

Manning is being treated this way to scare other brave soldiers into staying quiet. Which is agianst their duties, as it is expected and required to disobey illegal orders, bring those illegal acts to light, and stand up for what america is supposed to be.

anyone who thinks bradley manning is a traitor or either disinfo, brainwashed idiots, or worse (something i am unable to describe as it violates ATS policy).

He is a traitor he doesnt deserve to have all the frills all the other inmates get. I for one dont want him having a tv, a radio and a soccer league. Can you believe that crap? My friends ex husband robbed a store and killed the clerk and now he gets 3 meals a day and gets to organize a soccer league.

in matters of treason the constitution makes provisions for executive decisions

any law professor knows this.

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So he was committing treason by attempting to not violate his oath?

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What would you say about George Washington going against Great Britain? Would that not be treason?

I don't like his treatment either. Where is the firing squad? Why hasn't this traitor been shot yet?

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I understand why, but I don't think that justifys it. It becomes a very messy situation when the government can play games like this. Manning didn't want to go against his oath and help the government cover up the truth.

Who's to say what's treason? Is allowing 911 to happen treason?

Is running the country into the ground treason? Is pandering to your corporate lobbyisits treason?


What's really treason?

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so Manning is a traitor?

and I guess the animals in the helocopter are big time heroes for killing children knowingly?

You fit right in with a'merca and it's values.. it's obvious tapwater is good enough for you

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What the professor does not know, or is ignoring, is the President is UNABLE to get involved with mannings issue because he is the Commander in Chief, and is Mannings superior officer. If Obama gets involved in any form, it can be construed as undue command influence.

The professor needs to tone it down a few notches.

Originally posted by rebeldog
Manning is being treated this way to scare other brave soldiers into staying quiet. Which is agianst their duties, as it is expected and required to disobey illegal orders, bring those illegal acts to light, and stand up for what america is supposed to be.

anyone who thinks bradley manning is a traitor or either disinfo, brainwashed idiots, or worse (something i am unable to describe as it violates ATS policy).

and anyone who thinks hes a hero is obviously a moron

Yes because the only true heroes shoot and kill unarmed civillians in pointless wars. Real heroes get medals for that.

Originally posted by HomerinNC

Originally posted by rebeldog
Manning is being treated this way to scare other brave soldiers into staying quiet. Which is agianst their duties, as it is expected and required to disobey illegal orders, bring those illegal acts to light, and stand up for what america is supposed to be.

anyone who thinks bradley manning is a traitor or either disinfo, brainwashed idiots, or worse (something i am unable to describe as it violates ATS policy).

and anyone who thinks hes a hero is obviously a moron

dear troll...
answer this, is anyone who defends the consitution a moron....

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How is treason defending the Constitution? How is failing to obey the lawful orders of the people apoointed over you defending the Consitution? How is providing material support and aid to an enemy defending the Constitution? How is releasing classified information that has nothing to do with wrong doing based solely on the fact manning was pissed the army and his fellow soldiers did not like him defending the Constitution?

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Xcat, you're my bro, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here.


He was taking a stand in what he believed was in the interest of his country. Currently there is a divide on this belief as you have eluded to.


Manning was trying to uncover what is essentially cold blooded murder. This was to prevent it from happening again, and if we let it go on much longer, someone would have eventually uncovered it and the blowback would have been much more severe.


How exactly is it treason when your government is comitting illegal acts and your trying to bring it to light?

This will help the good guys in the government put an end to it right away (hopefully). And no one is dying because of his leaks--there is simply no evidence to suggest this.


Let's no forget what he was trying to bring to light.


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Is it possible he has bitten off more than he can chew? Sure. Was his heart in the right place? It seems to--it seems like he was trying to do the right thing.


The Face Of Evil:

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
Is it possible he has bitten off more than he can chew? Sure. Was his heart in the right place? It seems to--it seems like he was trying to do the right thing.





The Face Of Evil:

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S&F
we need to keep Mannings case in mind and not allow people to "forget and get on with their lives" or allow this to be quietly swept under the rug while our attention is elswhere.
as a response to the Manning haters, a perhaps welcome contribution to this thread and a complement to your "face of evil":
Kingdom of Evil

This is evil; those who seek to impose this fate on a human being are engaged in evil of an especially monstrous kind.

This is also the U.S. government and its military. Mark it well.

*****

Several additional issues require further commentary. In particular: we must beware falling into the trap of selective outrage. The horrifying case of Bradley Manning is an especially high profile one, but he is hardly the only victim of even this particular form of the U.S. government's monstrousness. And the cruelties visited upon Manning -- a man who, I emphasize again, has not yet been tried and convicted of even a single crime -- necessarily raise this question: What is the source of the rage which the U.S. government directs at this man? The answer will not be found in most of the commentary on this awful case.