THE TETHER: Project Nasa, ' hundred's of UFO's. Extreme footage

reply to post by weedwhacker


Listen. the reality is scientists/nasa knows exactly what to say in order to debunk these situations. the craziest part is how so many believe them.
science is fun? ok, sure. yeah science is interesting.

reply to post by steven704


You don't seem to understand the effects of focus, depth of field, poor video quality, low/or extreme lighting levels and conditions in photography? (And especially, video CCD cameras).

(You can re-create the space "UFOs" underwater.....you have probably seen such effects, such as from documentaries about Titanic, etc....being in water, they will move similarly to particles in free-fall...).

The entire "excitement" of the "Tether incident" was just the over-exuberant nonsense and misunderstanding....fed by the "fame" of Martyn Stubbs, and UFO Magazine, etc.....these people are SO intent on "finding" something, they will toss aside logic and reason, in favor of a "belief"...


This is old, it's not "slickly produced"...the 'late' Graham Birdsall (or, is it "Barry Taylor"??? Not sure...) is a bit boring, sadly, but (whomever), he knows his stuff.....the video also balances, by including the "other side" too....in all their nearly breathless HYPE that was part of the lore of this NON-event, as the ardent "believers" strive to stick to their silly claims.... etc....:


(I know....!!"21 minutes?!?".....if you jump to the end, first....at about 20:30, he sums it up nicely....then, feel free to scroll through the video to view more substantiating evidence and examples....)

"NASA Tether Footage Analysis "UFO" Debate with the late Graham Birdsall"

reply to post by weedwhacker


as much as i like lengthy videos ( and i do ) you seem to have the intention to ' prove ' something.
i do appreciate the video, as i giggled for a bit..but to be honest with you i wasn't moved.

reply to post by muckyman


MUCH better....succinct.


@steven704.....Are you still giggling???

I missed your answer to this, please repost it. Sorry!

Originally posted by JimOberg

Originally posted by coolottie
reply to post by steven704

 

This is a NASA video, about the creation of the latested, UV Camera. They can see things out in deep space [and in Earth space,] That the Naked Eye can not see.

And is it your contention that it was this instrument that got the STS-75 UFO swarm images?

reply to post by weedwhacker
Weedy, You did not do your homework, This man on your video is not even Graham Birdsall.

Second, Birdsall , owns UFO magizne. I do not even know who this guy is. But neither one has ever been to

Space. Now you had someone tell you on my thread, that those are not ice crystals or water. He told you ice

does not form in a Vacuum, You asked him, What is a vacuum. Space is as close to a Vaccum as your going

get. Also the shuttle can not do a water dump up there because it would damage the cameras on the outside.

You also refuse to even look at the evidence on my thread, about the Ultraviolet Camera that took these images,

of things not seen by the naked eye. This was part of STS-75 mission to capture these things on video.

Vacuum

Evaporation and sublimation into a vacuum is called outgassing. All materials, solid or liquid, have a small vapour pressure, and their outgassing becomes important when the vacuum pressure falls below this vapour pressure. In man-made systems, outgassing has the same effect as a leak and can limit the achievable vacuum. Outgassing products may condense on nearby colder surfaces, which can be troublesome if they obscure optical instruments or react with other materials. This is of great concern to space missions, where an obscured telescope or solar cell can ruin an expensive mission.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by muckyman

 

MUCH better....succinct.

@steven704.....Are you still giggling???

as a matter of fact, yes, giggling away...

simple as, big hats didn't want this video released. once the video was ' somehow ' released.. nasa/government freaked and figures out some clever tactic/scenario to fool 1\2 - 3/4 of the population.

not this guy

reply to post by steven704


Trying to help us both out on this issue, I am just going to stop replying to people that have nothing to offer to the subject.





If this does not work try the link


www.youtube.com.../u/0/9eQvSn1HZBs

Originally posted by steven704
simple as, big hats didn't want this video released. once the video was ' somehow ' released.. nasa/government freaked and figures out some clever tactic/scenario to fool 1\2 - 3/4 of the population.

not this guy

Originally posted by coolottie
reply to post by steven704

 

Trying to help us both out on this issue, I am just going to stop replying to people that have nothing to offer to the subject.

Nice view of the Pleiades setting behind the horizon, from the TOPS UV camera [NOT the Astro-1 telescope, which you had earlier posted]. Note the data displayed along the edges of the screen -- did you see any of that on the 'swarm' video? Nope -- different camera feed. Note the commentator's explanation that the UV camera was used on the dark side of Earth to detect faint ion glow caused by shuttle impact with ions -- while the 'swarm' sequence is a DAYlight scene just after sunrise.

Thanks for the further proof that the STS-75 famous tether swarrn video was obtained by the normal visible-light cameras in the payload bay.

You DO indeed have things to offer, and so do I. Let's continue!

reply to post by steven704
Glad you brought that up. They try to make themselves appear to be Professional Debunkers, and their Ego really goes up when someone calls them a Disinfo Agent, But they are nothing more that a bunch of Cyber Bullies. They are too lazy to even go and look for any evidence on any subject, because they just do this when they get bored playing video games. No one can even have a conversation anymore. Mods are looking into it, a lot of OPs are complaining not just me. They are out of control and cursing people, making racisit remarks.
A lot of people are leaving the site because of it. I will never post another thread.

reply to post by coolottie


i agree with you, but don't stop creating topics. just respond to those in your favor. as easy as ' denying the ignorant '

Hi Steven704

One of my favorite "Tether incident" analysis vids is the one by lunacognita. He is on the extreme end of these subjects, but his vids are entertaining and look good. Just don't get sucked in too far.

reply to post by MainLineThis
Well, I won my point on my thread, and you have not read one thing about STS-75 mission. You don't have a clue what a Ultraviolet UV camera is, you don't know that space up there is a vacuum, and any liquid released by the shuttle out of earths atmosphere, would adhere to the camers and other equiptment out side an damage equiptment. And I know you think it snows up there, but you don't see santa going that high. You really need to start reading the threads before you post on them.

Originally posted by MainLineThis
reply to post by steven704

 

" stupidity, hoaxes, and blind open-minded followers of total idiots (like Greer, etc).

" So I ask you, who is winning this imaginary war you believe is going on? The answer is obvious, just look how this subject isn't taken seriously by the very people that could actually force disclosure and scientific study. It's not because of your imaginary "disinfo agents" they don't take it seriously."

" When you have LEGIONS of people that lack the education, perspective and understanding blah blah something blah blah "

THIS --> www.abovetopsecret.com:80...&addstar=1&on=11115359#pid11115359

reply to post by steven704


PROVE it!:

...simple as, big hats didn't want this video released...

Kinda hard to substantiate this claim....since it was shown publicly, like most videos from the Shuttle and ISS.

Just hand-waving these claims ain't gonna cut it....it is nonsense.

OH, and displays incredible lack of logic: Let's say, on the other hand.....there were some sort of discs --- craft --- artificial constructs that, in relation to the tether for comparison, were on the order of ~ 3 miles in diameter? Then:

• WHY are they transparent??
  
  
• WHY are they perfectly positioned to the camera...."full frontal nudity" on, not edgewise, not slightly canted, nothing....

Not once do they alter their apparent orientation.

NO....in essence they look, behave, and were videoed exactly as you'd expect (those of you with knowledge and experience of any substantial amount, in videography and the peculiarities of lighting, depth of field, over-exposure, etc....).

Of course....those folks who haven't that life's experience are likely to be fooled so easily....CONNED into these "beliefs", by shysters and con artists, and other deluded "fellow believers"....who dispense with logic, in favor of irrational fantasy.....

reply to post by coolottie


Huh???

Please....cite the science behind these assertions:

....that space up there is a vacuum, and any liquid released by the shuttle out of earths atmosphere, would adhere to the camers and other equiptment out side an damage equiptment.....

That is so wrong, and misguided, it is fascinating to read.....

I AM sorry, but you cannot labor under such terribly inaccurate misconceptions, and expect to have the "UFO claims and beliefs taken seriously!

reply to post by weedwhacker


" PROVE it! "

for who? prove something to ' you ' ? why?

i don't feel anyone needs to prove anything to you.

reply to post by weedwhacker
They are transparent because they are in another dimension, They can come into our dimension and do but for us to see them their vibration slows down. I was told once that there could be one right over LA and no one would even see it. They used that theory in Independence Day. We really live in the 4th dimension because time is a dimension in itself. And to Time travel you would have to go out of time. I explain it as Another Dimension is Mirocwave, most people don't know but your microwave overn when on is moving the particles 3 million mile per hour. That's why it gets things hot without heat. Ultraviolet Dimension, Gama dimension. There is also a dimension where all you see is energy, it is like the computer html or java, it is like the code that creates our reality, [to us everthing feels solid but it's not] I couldn't find the names of them on google. [So this is my discription for them.] There is one that starts with an R., There is also one that is a complete void, it is the membrain around around each dimension seperating them, People refer to a vail and that is what it is like. But if you want to travel into another dimension you can come out at the same place you went in.

Here is my theory on time: from another thread

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The Time Theater: My point in theory, Imagine a huge theater lobby and there is no time in the lobby, and there are an infinite number of doors to go into the movie. Now there is only one movie playing, but like a computer, just log in and chose a charactor in the movie that you want to be. In each room the movie is ahead 360 day ahead of the previous room. Now that is how time would appear in a 3 dimensional world [time is a dimension] so that is 4 dimensions. In that reality the threater is just one floor. In the 5th dimension it goes up and down in a circular motion like a Slinky toy. To have many parallel dimensions, just ad more Slinky toys to the one toy, now the middle of the Slinky is timeless [no time] to time travel go up and down the middle pick a year and a parallel you want to go. Time goes in a circle not a straght line. DNA code is a good example of this time theory.