No Alien Ship Crash at Roswell

One thing has always bothered me about the "Roswell Crash" of a flying disk. One word actually.... Recovery. I'll explain.
Said flying disk is soaring along in New Mexico and for "whatever" reason crashes in the remote desert. It is then found by locals, authorities are called then the military. Military claims of a flying disk are then revealed to the public which was later said to be a weather balloon. There were plenty of flying disks prior to the "crash" probably leading to the jumping of the gun to announce a disk had been recovered. Quickly changing the story was wise as this AAF base was the HQ of the 509th bombwing, the only wing in the world capable of delivering nuclear bombs. Don't need a base like that mis-identifying a balloon as a disk.
Back to the crash in the desert with the so called "Disk". There was no crash of a craft from another world with aliens on board, one simple word says why.
Recovery

Do you honestly believe that an alien race with the technology to travel here from 100's or 1000's of light years would leave said disk to be recovered and analyzed by a race that had just fought a major war, much let it get into the hands of a Nation that used two Atom bombs in war? Of course they wouldn't. When one of Earths' planes goes down, a report is made of said plane then a massive recovery is initiated to find the plane, rescue any survivors, etc. That's why all planes have a Black Box. (It's actually Orange.)
To think that said alien race would leave the disk here to be recovered, back-engineered, studied, etc... is nuts. They would get said disk back no matter the cost, killing and or mind wiping all involved in the recovery of their disk. Leave it in the hands of such a violent race as ours? I think not.
Well, I shortened this from what I was going to post just to get my 2 cents out there. Hope it was not too long a read and maybe enlightened some. All comments are welcome. Peace out and keep looking up!

reply to post by AuWolf


Why does Threads like these pop up when new evidence is popping up...

Too much "Cats from Oz" in these days on ATS.... Too much.

So your presuming that an alien race would behave exactly like us humans in the way we recover our lost planes? How can you make that assumption?

And even if they did follow these recovery protocols, what if the supposed crashed saucer was a rogue ship?

If it was a "Rogue" ship, they'd know about it and being far superior to us, would come get it. Look at plane defections from our world, flying a MiG into Japan. Soviets knew about it but could do nothing at all. They lacked the OOOMPH to go get it back.

reply to post by AuWolf


The day we exploded the Atomic Bomb, we send a invitation trough space.

And our mark is still traveling trough space at this very moment saying we tiny puny human race got the understanding of playing with atoms..

After the military showed up ET would have had a little trouble taking their stuff back.

They would have started a war. I doubt they wanted to do that.

You forget the fact that the military and government do not currently have the capability of duplicating the technology to its exact specifications. They can't even duplicate the fuel sources right now (Element 115 anyone?). The alien spacecraft crashed because of disruptive energy from a high-powered radar dish near Roswell. I've read the official Majestic documents and some of the FBI documents regarding this incident and the most commonly used phrase is "Crash and retrieval". The keyword is retrieval.

Retrieval

1. the act of retrieving.
2. the chance of recovery or restoration: lost beyond retrieval.

Obviously, any instances where 'recovery' is used are meant as the first definition of 'retrieval' since the two words are related. They weren't regaining something of their own - they were gaining something from someone else.

When one of Earths' planes goes down, a report is made of said plane then a massive recovery is initiated to find the plane, rescue any survivors, etc.

Apples to oranges, as another poster pointed out.

You're comparing what people would do to what these supposed aliens would do. But you can't do that. It's the same reason most medicines must undergo clinical trials on humans even after they've been tested on rats and monkeys -- a rat isn't a person, and a person isn't an alien.

Also, and this is totally irrelevant, and nothing more than a grammar nazi-ish pet peeve of mine, but I would suggest you look into what scare quotes are, what they mean, and when to use them. You'll "thank" me later.

en.wikipedia.org...

You are also assuming that the craft was extraterrestrial in nature when
there is some evidence that it could be intraterrestrial i.e. from within earth,
and that governments have already made contacts with some of these species.
If there is one thing we know, it's that we don't know.

reply to post by Pseudonaut


Why can't I compare it? You think that if they are that advanced they'd do things like us? I think not. They'd be a lot smarter.

reply to post by pshea38


I'm not assuming anything, I made an argument against the popular belief that an ET craft crashed in New Mexico. That is the popular belief.

I have never believed, that aliens are flawless. I wonder how that idea got birthed to begin with. If you find yourself in a disc made of metals, floating through the skies, sailing on gravitational fields, which seems to be what they do, you will be prone to crashing. If you WOULDN'T be prone to crashes, ever, then you wouldn't be sitting in something mechanical.

Just my personal view.


Scissorville

Originally posted by AuWolf
reply to post by pshea38

 

I'm not assuming anything, I made an argument against the popular belief that an ET craft crashed in New Mexico. That is the popular belief.

Your entire first post was all assumption. But it doesn't stop there, since your thread title is a statement. You basically posted your assumed opinion, and presented it with a "factual" like statement title.

Bad form. I've asked this before of posters such as yourself. Why do you roam this particular forum, if your opinion suggests you don't believe any of it? Is it just to vehemently express your *opinion* that you don't believe any of it?

Seems like alot of effort just to either soothe your ego, or convince yourself that you're right.

problem solved!!!

after all the years and hard work done by researchers why didn at least one of them think of this explanation???

maybe because its not a valid one, how can you tell they would not leave there disc here, how do you know they were watching our wars and why do you think they would ect like they way you say they would, there not humans, they prob dont think like us.
il give you credit tho for trying to come to an explination! but the fbi have released info just recently about this topic, should give it a read

ETA: here is the link:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by AuWolf


Your naivity on this whole post astounds me ?

'IF' they are alot smater then they wouldn't worry too much about us 'thicko' humans working out theyre advanced technologies anytime soon ?

All assumptions !
Read Philip J Corso's book The Day After Roswell ?

Free here :- www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

And this is just your opinion. You cant prove anything as anyone else. It's equally dumb to post these "NO events threads" as the fearmongeringposts.

Whenever i read things like "proof...roswell" WTC, HAARP etc i just have to scroll the page to see another post with the NO, NOT HAPPENED titel added to it!

If you cant prove it didnt happened just skip the post. Atleast one can read and get amused by varios events that are hard to explain or unexplainable. This might actually result in people investigate things on their own.

It happened...no it didnt...yes it did...no....yes.
Just another cat n mouse syndrome.

Originally posted by yourignoranceisbliss

Originally posted by AuWolf
reply to post by pshea38

 

I'm not assuming anything, I made an argument against the popular belief that an ET craft crashed in New Mexico. That is the popular belief.

Your entire first post was all assumption. But it doesn't stop there, since your thread title is a statement. You basically posted your assumed opinion, and presented it with a "factual" like statement title.

Bad form. I've asked this before of posters such as yourself. Why do you roam this particular forum, if your opinion suggests you don't believe any of it? Is it just to vehemently express your *opinion* that you don't believe any of it?

Seems like alot of effort just to either soothe your ego, or convince yourself that you're right.

It was not an assumption it was an opinion, different meanings. Just said no alien ship crashed at roswell, did not claim it as proof or that I have hard evidence. look at most of the post topics on here, more than half are opinions. Don't get mad that I added my 2 cents to the pot. I believe in Alien life just not the fact that 'They" have been here. Columbus did not land in the new world and go back to Europe. He stayed explored then went back to Europe and more followed and look what happened to the new world. I'm just stating what I believe I claimed no proof or said any of what I say is fact, it's just an opinion.

reply to post by ProRipp


Bought the book back when it first came out, interesting read but that's all. Proved nothing to me at all, just good story telling.

Originally posted by Vesica
And this is just your opinion. You cant prove anything as anyone else. It's equally dumb to post these "NO events threads" as the fearmongeringposts.

Whenever i read things like "proof...roswell" WTC, HAARP etc i just have to scroll the page to see another post with the NO, NOT HAPPENED titel added to it!

If you cant prove it didnt happened just skip the post. Atleast one can read and get amused by varios events that are hard to explain or unexplainable. This might actually result in people investigate things on their own.

It happened...no it didnt...yes it did...no....yes.
Just another cat n mouse syndrome.

If people could prove or dis-prove everything here there would be no ATS Forum. It's an open platform for opinions, discussions, beliefs, etc.... If you are looking for PROOF blame the ones that put "PROOF" in the topic heading, not me for offering a valid opinion.