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I'm not afraid to take a stand to make a change & everybody come take my hand!!!!

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posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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Before anyone should mention that Baptist Church the media likes to use as propaganda, perhaps you should read this thread by one my favorite moderators on ATS, skyfloating. This thread Rocks! I have contributed to it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Is Westboro Baptist Chruch a Mind Control Psy-Op?

To even bring them up in this whole scenario and use them as a common benevolent viewpoint is ridiculous, to do so is manipulative.

Basically its like eveyrone gets airtime for all the manipulations, distortions and matrix programming, but when the positive side speaks up, they're not supposed to have equal airtime,and are told even suggesting people have a choice and sharing truth and experiences, is said to take away free will and be forcing. No, its giving a choice.



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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I have to admit I did use some of Eminem Lyrics and I did say at the beginning many things were inspired of this thread by great people. So I have nothing wrong but I know that many things inspire us in this world which is why it does.

Sure Scribe I will meet some bears and dogs along the way but:
What will I do?

Will I ignore them and get back at them??

Well no I will approach them with a treat a bone or some honey give it to them to consider.

There is no need for judgment or hate in this world we already got plenty of it.

Anyway working on a new post so please be waiting.


Kind Regards

TMA



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 07:07 PM
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Hey Scribe ET_MAN is right Im not here to start a cult or a following I am here to help people believe in themselves and learn how to do things


I am not here to force them to believe in things or make them do it.

People need to believe in who they are too see past the foggy world and out the bright sunny window.

Kind Regards

TMA



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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There is nothing to fear except fear itself. We have way more 'power' than we are programmed to believe. It's time to rewrite the programme.

Great post TMA thank you!



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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This chat I had with a friend, nudged me in the most positive way, I've felt in the past few months This spontaneously comes, but never thought of it as a continuum. So he gave me permission to post this:

All we have to do is learn how to control our minds, not allow the mind to control our desires and intentions
Just teach yourself to question and observe everything around you and feel from within your Heart to Higher Self, allow your Feelings positive vibrations to guide you, so when we are ready to move on we will know from within however you must question it otherwise you could be waiting a lot longer than needed


I try to practice these feelings as much as i can ,so basically you can recognize when it's right to move on and when it's wrong to move on.

Everything like an action has a reflection, so just go with your heart for one whole day and you'll feel and experience what i mean, everything falls into place, you'll be happier and knowing that your getting all this help from within. you just got to trust within fully and be faithful. just go with your heart, you'll see.

I said, yes i will i have that connect inside now the sun is shining in my heart.

Like your actions will reflect onto somebody else in the house and then you'll understand why you did something a certain way later on in the day. Stay in the heart thats what i did mean.

And when I did this, the sun was in my heart, and in the clouds and rain, it shone out bright for a moment in my house, then hid again. But felt this connect, this higher mesh, frequency, that was happiness, joy, love, family, and so much fun, just calling me.

Peace, Love & Light.

These words are from DClairvoyant, and they're very inspiring. The sun just came out again. Live in our hearts not our minds, reach for the sun within, HS and Family.
edit on 11-4-2011 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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Unity, it appears as though you have (once again) misinterpreted my words. If you'd have read my post in it's entirety you would notice that I list the following cults, Churches, and events as examples of forced-spirituality:

• The Westboro Baptist Church
• Arranged Marriage in Hinduism, and Islam
• Selective marriage in born-again Christianity
• Scientology's pyramid scam membership
• Supposed Scientology-caused deaths
• The mass suicide led by Bo and Peep of the Heaven's Gate
• The massacre of the People's Temple at Jonestown
• The massacre of the Branch Davidian

I do not list these terrible events, and organizations as good spiritual constructs. To misinterpret my words to such a scale is astounding. I sincerely hope that you did not honestly assume that I was supporting the belief systems, spiritual pull, or outcomes of any of these events or groups. I clearly do not support, or condone, this type of activity.

I do not like that you have formed a bias against me. In every thread we mutually post to, you approach me as some kind of pariah, who exists solely to assault you, or those whom you agree with. I would hope that you still take the time to read my posts before blindly responding to them. Your friend T.M.A. was not in my sights as an ignorant youth this time, quite the opposite. I was commending him on a good start to this thread, and encouraging him to push it further.

Please take time to educate yourself on what, and who, it is you're trying to refute. I hope that you would not be so quick to judge next time.

 


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Greetings T.M.A.

I saw no problem with you utilizing Eminem's message (except, next time don't alter it). I posted the video because another user assumed you had not done so. I was sharing the wealth, and said user seemed happy to have been enlightened. All is well, that ends well.

As for the Bears and Dogs... I think you still need to do a little more soul-searching before you come to a realization about the six totems central to the spiritual journey of humanity. Do not approach them as a literal Bear and Dog. They are symbols, present in all cultures and people. Once you have unlocked their purpose, and overlay their influence onto your own life, then the six totems will make a lot more sense. I wish you luck in your seeking.

You are not entirely right, when you say that we do not need to judge. Judgment needs to be passed. Without judgment, groups like the Westboro Baptist, the Heaven's Gate cult, violent radical Islam, and Dictators will continue to rise to prominence, sweeping up innocent lives and devouring them. The world needs judgment on what is morally acceptable.

Without pointing out the dangers of blowing yourself up, of shooting innocent children, of drinking poison for a comet, and neglecting to love your neighbors we are all doomed to vivisect ourselves until we have all been shredded to pieces at the hands of our fellow man. Judgment is needed. Not to push people down and oppress them; but to call out the dangerous people and stop them before they hurt others.

 


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And, finally, though I know you are very quick to buddy-up with Unity, please do not forgo thinking for yourself in favor of listening to everything she says. ET Man asked me to show examples of how someone can be forced spiritually into something. The extremists, cultists, and massacres I mentioned were in response to his question. I did not say anywhere in my post that you were attempting to be the next Jim Jones.

I was the one who told you that you should encourage people to think for themselves. Which is something you repeated at the end of your post. If you're taking my advice, then why would you assume I am going to belittle you for doing so? I like that you want to encourage people to seek their own peace of mind. Go forth, find Nirvana. Teach people to vibrate to their own frequency.

Stop seeing me as the enemy. I'm only the enemy when you veil yourself in lies and misinformation. If you are true in spirit, then I have no problem with you.

~ Scribe


edit on 11/4/11 by Wandering Scribe because: Spelling correction



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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No, actually I didn't think you were in any way supportive of them, the opposite. What I saw you as doing was taking the media which is proganda against Christianity, and actually equating this M'Kultra Victim, cia group, as average Christians, or anyone that could ever be Christian, ie. someone following in the footsteps of Yeshua. The idea that this group represents Christianity is false. They don't.

Other than that, you're loved anyway.



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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i still dont care much for eminem



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:34 PM
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Would you like to tell me what a True Christian is?

The Westboro Baptist believe that they are Christians, following the words of the Lord God, and His son, Jesus Christ. They're not mind-manipulated slaves either though. They are just extremely bigoted, racist individuals who believe that they know what God wants, and are willing to bend scripture to suit their own desires any way that they can.

The same goes for any branch of Christian thought. Protestants and Catholics, Lutherans and Evangelicals, Greek Orthodox and Presbyterians, etc. Every sect believes that it is practicing the True Christian Way. That is why all of these various sects exist. If someone knew how to practice Christianity perfectly, there would only be one sect, called Christianity.

But, because the Holy Bible is comprised of religious documents from across time, written by authors with diverse personal views, we have an amalgamation of accepted views, and unacceptable views for each branch.

So, what is a True Christian?

~ Scribe



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:35 PM
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is that butter on your fingers?



posted on Apr, 12 2011 @ 08:47 AM
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My post here www.abovetopsecret.com... in that thread talks about the differences. Even in traditional Church's amongst those who don't strive to see through the matrix more, and ask for healing of their site, they still are left with a very gentle, kind, forgiving, nonjudgmental, caring, service to others role model.

Peace.
edit on 12-4-2011 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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Lovely thread! Thank you for this, I wish there were more of this sort here but unfortunately many of us are feeling overpowered by the negativity of emotion caused by world events!
But...when the night is darkest is when the light begins to appear!

May you be blessed!



posted on Apr, 12 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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Thank you Scribe I guess part of the old me jumped out


Kinda like OH GOD NO HE IS HERE!!!!!


But then I was like

"Meh its Scribe he is everywhere like a stealthy ninja"



posted on Apr, 12 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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Also Scribe I wanna answer your question to Unity LOL!!!.

There is no true Christian it is just a name and a phrase that was made up, because Jesus never believed in any religion it was humanity that created this. Which is why over all humanity is the one that created religion and gave birth to it. Christianity is not a person it is a believe that was made by people, so over all there is no true Christian.


Cause the only reason for religion is for people to believe into something, yes Jesus was real and what he taught of love also truth was real. But.... he never asked or forced people to believe in him or to start wars over him.

No offense to anyone just saying what is.



posted on Apr, 12 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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Nope that is melted chocolate Im making a mud cake do you want a peace ?



posted on Apr, 12 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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thanks for share this, we need it
Count me, i am there to try to make this world better, more love, more light, cmon lets work!
Hand here and all my intention focused

Love you brother





posted on Apr, 12 2011 @ 07:07 PM
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I propose a question


If you played musical chairs and it was for $1 million dollars, with only you and another guy left to win. What would you do? and What would you do with the money?

I wonder what you will do and then I shall say what I would do



Kind Regards

TMA



posted on Apr, 12 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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Here is something to think about


Lately I been strolling on ATS and found a few threads regarding selling your soul to the so called Devil. Now here is where it gets interesting, how can you sell a soul?

Well..... you can not because it is not yours to own in the first place!!!!

So the Devil is not there as a soul take he is more of as a tester to see if you would give up.

If you really think about this it would make you realize how simple it all is and would start laughing


Anyway here is a cookie and some milk make sure to check the milk I might have not refrigerated it.

Kind Regards

TMA



posted on Apr, 12 2011 @ 11:45 PM
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Your life is different to what you know



What if everything you know and ever known was truly an illusion? Thus it would explain that what we see as truth and seek as a path is actually backwards, even though a few find their way they do not see the path it self resulting in them heading into the wrong direction. Now…… would that not explain the endless illusion we call the reality and life around us, thinking for what it is that life brings towards us instead of the long backtracking motion that we take each day.

But….. then this is not life but an endless cycle of travel through a circular spiral, then how do we know if we truly are living life and that we truly live. Well that can not be explained simply however, it can be understood Albert Einstein once said:



A person starts to live when he can live outside himself, by reaching beyond the given limitations and illusions.


The above quote already portrays the true reality behind the lives we live to which we do not understand, so does this reality carry on through the lives of many in our time.
Without truly knowing and understanding that the limitations and illusions set within ones life are their own creation, then the one can not break free of the prison that they are in. After so much time of being taught that these limitations are real how can we unlearn what was taught to us to be the truth. The simplest thing can help us learn and unlearn is to seek the truth, just the merest thing like seeking can help us understand what we have been missing this whole time.

However, there are many different problems with this backwards information and that is what we are doing. Humanity is known to be on a verge of evolution and a scale of great advancement, but….. how can we truly call it to be great when we turned a planet of a tremendous beauty into a basic backyard toilet. Resulting in shock for our whole planet and the living things within it, yet many are believing that progress demands sacrifice. Many of those people do not realize that without the planet and the nature it self we can not exist. So what we see as evolution and progress is backwards to the truth that is hidden from our realization, this is why when we turn around this so called evolution we are shown a grim picture of a destructive future.

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The above picture shows to us of what the product of our evolution does to something that was once beautiful, more and more forests are being cutdown also more animals are now face to be on a verge of complete destruction as well. We do not see the effects of these evolving steps that we are taking, many ask “Why?” it is simple and also very easy to understand. Because the leaders of the world and our countries do not wish for us to see the picture, that is why distractions are created such as television, advertisements, gaming products, new electronic entertainment devices, cars and movies. Other things include false news where we mostly hear gossip of someone getting married, but…… the real stories are mostly on 5% of the time giving us only a tiny window of real information.

However, there are also other situations where we see doctors releasing new medicine that is told to us to help us heal our bodies. Now….. the interesting situation is being raised through the new knowledge that is being provided. People are able to heal themselves without any given medicine by share will and power to do so, it is known that the human body has every single gene to cure cancer and many other illnesses. For example of Placebo Tests on many cancer patients has been known to been taken place, like a extract from Scientific American magazine that stated the following.



A man whom his doctors referred to as “Mr. Wright” was dying from cancer of the lymph nodes. Orange-size tumours had invaded his neck, lower body, chest and abdomen, and his doctors had exhausted all available treatments. Nevertheless, Mr. Wright was confident that a new anticancer drug called Krebiozen would cure him. However, while not realizing the potential risks his doctor provided Mr. Wright with a Placebo of Krebiozen. Mr. Wright was bedridden and fighting for each breath when he received his first injection. But three days later he was cheerfully ambling around the unit, joking with the nurses. Mr. Wright’s tumours had shrunk by half, and after 10 more days of treatment he was discharged from the hospital. And yet the other patients in the hospital who had received Krebiozen showed no improvement.


The above statement clearly shows that much of what we know is a lie, doctors do help us but it is the tablets we are sold that merely destroy our health. Yes. Some of the medicine does help us through some things, but…… most of the time it is us who are helping our selves. How many times have you taken a tablet against a headache?

Let me guess more then you could count and yet the amazing situation behind this technique is a mere placebo effect, when you take the tablet you know for a fact that it will ease your pain and take it away. However, have you noticed that these tablets have no effect on people that believe they do not help at all. But…. the miracle truly happens when the person that did take the tablet yet still had a headache, suddenly had a strong will to believe that it does work and amazingly the pain is gone. After which every time its a cycle like this.

Have chest pains take a pill !!!!!

Have a headache take a pill !!!!

Have stomach issues take a pill !!!!

It continues on and on and on endless.

Now….. how does the situation play out when out of nowhere you surprisingly develop allergies for something you never had nor anyone in your family history. This is why you should ask yourself “What is really inside that tablet?”, that resulted in you coughing up a several hundred dollar bill at the doctor with prescription medication. That would basically needs to be with you the whole time of your life because if you do not take it your throat could close up and you might die. Even this whole medication it self can cost you a lot to keep taking, at times resulting in liver failure or kidney failure and even a heart condition like much other medications can produce as well. After going through all this you realize all this happened over a mere tablet that others take as well in their life.

The wondering mind is like water it can crash, flow or drop by a drop resulting in so much understanding over the given time.

Through out history and the much known time of our life we learn to see things differently, not understanding much about known situations that arise through what we call life. There have been many people that have been there to help us all understand more.

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The major thing that connected all these people is the fact that they were all killed or died early , but…… the big thing we must understand that they wanted to help us. To teach us the way of love, understanding, spirituality, joy, happiness and many more things, as they went public many people listened and many people understood. So ask yourself “Why is it when great people show themselves in public and teach us the way of peace they always die?” well my dear friends it is simple to see. But….. it can sound a bit funny or even crazy to consider and now picture if the world became at peace, meaning there is no money people merely trade things with one another and there is no war so no longer there is a need for weapons. People spend more time on developing free energy, advanced science, greater learning and understanding of life. Now…. the understanding is “Who would be hurt the most?” and the answer is the big billionaire bankers, countries, billion dollar weapon developers, weapon companies, military research and many upon many other people which are in power. Even though it sounds crazy “Is this not the simplest explanation?” as I said before



The simplest explanation is more likely the correct one. Occam Razor’s Law


This law is applied by all scientists, religions sometimes and even politics, but….. to the main understanding of truth we tend to ignore that law. Why? Because of our fear not some other made up reason we try to put forth to cover it, it is truly and basically our fear of truth and the horrifying realization of that it is real. This is not some conspiracy nut theory or general made up information it is provable and can be seen all around the world today. I will even later on explain to you in my 9/11 post how this can be really proven with share facts, information and true events that took place. Now back to the point not only that we are not in control and that things are completely backwards to what we see, the other biggest thing is that we are slaves.



Yes. Ladies and Gentlemen we are still slaves but it is the slavery that we to do not fully see and this slavery is hidden right under our noses. Now I want you to think what is the only thing that could get you homeless, starving, sick like a dog and have no future. Hmm….. many of you would say a JOB!!!, nope that is wrong my friends but you are getting close the fact that what the job it self provides is MONEY!!!. Many of you would straight away ask “But how is this possible?????” simple money became the easiest system to control people it began with the Romans who even sold people for money. So as you see my dear friends you are not in control of your life the money is, reasons being if you don’t get paid you starve and then if you don’t get a job in time you end up on the street. As you see we do not fully realize this and tend to close our eyes on to this issue it self.

Yet…. Those that tried to stop this system and show people other ways have died, because some people got upset at them now as you see this is simple and it is so simple that you just can not ignore it.

YOU ARE OWNED!!!!!

May it be plastic or paper because sadly the day you are born your freedom is no longer there!!!

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As a man once said "Rome was not built in a day" so ask yourself this:

"Is Rome truly gone? or Is it still here!!!"

Many people are born into this world they have sadly 5- 10 years of life then off to school or a better known money concentration camp, where you learn things that are there to help you earn more money. As soon as you are out of school and college you are off to work for endless hours away to survive.

The only time you see your family is for maybe 3-6 hours a day, sometimes weekends and on some public holidays. All this to keep them full of food, have clothes, medication and a roof over their head. I know this seems harsh but….. it is something that people need to start seeing also understanding. So please my friends ask yourselves now “Am I truly free???” just because some paper that was signed long ago states you are does not make it so.

Am I truly free? and Is everything that I know completely different to what I know?

I hope you enjoyed reading this post and understood some information within it as well.

Again I am not here to challenge any of your beliefs, for I am merely sharing information with you that is in our life.

Thank you for reading and I hope you enjoyed this crazy wacky post


Kind Regards

TMA



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 06:17 AM
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Another quality post cheers TMA.

We are indeed slaves. That slavery is coming to an end for those that can see I have no doubt. We wear our body like a glove in this 'reality' and people are starting to realise they can take the gloves off =)

Life is designed to exhaust and confuse you...

...if you let it.

Regarding the musical chairs. I wouldn't want the 'winning' chair. Often when you win, you really lose.

Peace



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