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Engineer Behind Iranian Saucer Technology Comes Forward

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posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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reply to post by Quaoar
 


Your way of thinking is old and you will be left behind if you don't rethink your logic. Iran believes today's nuclear technology is childs play.

But I'll play with your way of thinking. Perhaps the reason why the US or any western civilization never attacked Iran is because they knew that attacking Iran would be futile because of Iran's anti-gravity technology? Or maybe the whole US Isareal vs Iran is all made up for socio physiological reasons and trying to hide this new technology? See what I did there?



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by samaka
reply to post by Soshh
 


Please tell me you're kidding?


Which part? There was some sarcasm in there I think.


Does somebody really have tell you that the cola waste bottle is an obvious overly simplified demonstration of the technology?


In his words it is a "plasma reactor" or more specifically a "cola plasma reactor"
- take it up with him if you don't agree, in which case you'd be in good company.

It is certainly overly simplified; it's simplified to the point of being completely irrelevant. Where's a "complex" (and applicable) version (preferably one that can be used to make a vehicle move at an impressive speed)? Better yet, where's the version that can produce faster-than-light travel? Because it certainly isn't on the Zohal - why would he lie? Hmm...

Have you booked your trip to the moon yet mate? If you buy a ticket and prove it, I will bet you twice the price of that ticket that the trip will never happen. I will happily give you the money, I will even cartwheel to your house wearing your choice of costume and hand it to you in cash.

If he's right, if he has decided to stop conning people and I'm wrong, then you will be on the moon and in space enjoying the sights, thousands of whatever currency you fancy richer and I will be wallowing in sadness and shame - hooray!


Did you even bother to learn what this technology is even about?


What technology? The propellers?



Can you grasp the idea of space travel technologies?


Yes I can!



Please tell me what is your occupation?


I'm a brain surgeon, obviously.


Perhaps I can enlighten you some. Did you know that you can charge an iPhone with a lemon and copper base items from around the house? If not... then you can start there then "evolve" to understanding the 5 electrode waste bottle demonstration.


I think that most people know that. I did something similar once upon a time, in fact I have advanced that idea to the point that I am able to construct a vehicle capable of faster-than-light travel. I have no proof but I can probably throw nonsensical explanations at you until you get lost and simply take my word for it. Catch my drift?


BTW good job on finding the images. I see you have mastered the basic concept of the Google search engine. Congrats.


Thanks but I haven't just mastered the basic concept, I can even use the advanced search function. I am that good. When you come back from the Moon I will teach you if you ask me nicely.

Just so we’re clear, after seeing the Zohal you still believe that it is capable of faster-than-light travel? Also, what is your explanation for Keshe not knowing what his own "flying saucer" looks like?


Originally posted by samaka
He is not out. That is false. Matter of fact he will be releasing a tangible product of his technology to the world very soon.


You do realise that he has done this before, right? Those who believe him must enjoy being left looking like gullible window-lickers. But go on, what’s the date? I honestly can’t wait. Or has he learnt from past mistakes and “very soon” is as specific as he’s going to be?


Why dont you purchase his digital book you can download for $30 and actual read/research and meditate his book or em I talking to a penny pincher who is afraid to loose $30 (which you wouldn't because it's through Paypal)


He is a liar and a conman, that’s an extremely good reason for not handing over any money. Not to mention the fact that we can read and laugh at his thoughts online free of charge. You paid for his e-book then I take it?



Originally posted by SaturnFX
reply to post by Soshh
 


Buzzkill!


Sorry.

edit on 9/4/11 by Soshh because: A smiley went horribly wrong.



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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it is a UAV for ariel imaging, read the press release. what a joke this all is.



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 10:10 PM
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reply to post by SLAYER69
 


This sure will be a challenge for the debunkers! LOLZ!



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by mrfrodo1524
reply to post by SLAYER69
 


This sure will be a challenge for the debunkers! LOLZ!

I LOVE your avatar lol, I wonder if the Iranian engineer created similar technology (keeping it on topic
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posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by ResearchMan
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There is no air in space, therefor there would be no drag effect. This makes no sense either being the faster you go while in space, the more mass you need. If you were to travel at the speed of light, the mass of your ship would have to be that of Earths moon. Nice try tho.


But there's an Air & Space museum!

Mass is irrelevant if you can shield yourself from the fabric of space, and thus all the matter and energy that travels on it. If you can travel within a bubble that peels that fabric around your craft you can travel at phenomenal speeds with zero matter resistance, zero speed limit, and zero inertia. And by zero I mean as in zero-point, not absolute.
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posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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I just had to reply to you and say..... That avatar was originally made at a local photoshop I worked at by this girl and a buddy. haha They were extremely bored at work when creating it. Now its every where on the internet. I love it, but besides that I wanted to say this article is kinda sketchy and I would have to see it to believe they could accomplish this.



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 11:19 PM
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Now that is some funny stuff right there
however if its true wow is all i got to say



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 11:33 PM
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I don't understand though how the "Quadrocopter" = gravity and magnetic field capable of traveling anywhere instantly.



posted on Apr, 10 2011 @ 12:34 AM
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Just wanted to add this.

english.farsnews.com...



posted on Apr, 10 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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Dunno if this wognation builds any aeroplanes, let alone flying saucers/carpets

flying saucers have been sighted since man came to be but if any of thes crafts have
been reverse engineered is an open question.
Not to mention i've developed my own version of saucer technology, the synopsis can be seen on the
link in my signature



posted on Apr, 10 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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Google Keshe Foundation scam.



Enjoy learning that this is fake.



He's a piece of # scam artist, no more, no less.

Anyone who actually believes he did it should buy his book



posted on Apr, 10 2011 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Hmm very interesting, it's hard to tell what's true or false, like with most things these days haha.



Originally posted by mbkennel

Originally posted by spikey

Did you know that Arabs are responsible for a hell of a lot of innovations throughout history?...even our alphabet is based on Arabic script.


Really? That's why they call it "Times New Roman", becuase it wasn't Roman it was Arabic?

SPQR

Roman or Arabic?

I think he meant the numbers, which the North African Arabs introduced to Europe from what I've read.
en.wikipedia.org...
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Yes, of course. But since the European Renaissance, the contribution of the Arab world to development of mathematics and science has been negligible.
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posted on Apr, 10 2011 @ 02:40 AM
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posted on Apr, 10 2011 @ 03:10 AM
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reply to post by mrfrodo1524
 


I never knew you could use a full length movie as your avatar


Can I use close encounters of the third kind or will I possibly be sued?



posted on Apr, 10 2011 @ 05:00 AM
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Please, spare me the crap about Iranians not being materialistic and all that. They are just as human as everyone else, and they are going to have scientists as well.

However, they do not have space travel technology, as they claim. It's a totally outrageous claim, and an insult to all of us who dream of travelling to other star systems one day.



posted on Apr, 10 2011 @ 07:11 AM
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Ease up…

If Iran or (any country for that matter) had this kind of technology, their scientist would have been kidnapped in no time by the superpowers and be silenced long time ago.



posted on Apr, 10 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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The experiment overly simplified yes, the process of the conversion rate molecular combination from room temperature C02 and other reactions is the complicated part which is what the video is explaining. If you scale the experiment millions of times bigger is the same process Keshe is using, I wouldn't say this is irrelevant in anyway but in the in mind of someone like you I could see why it would be because Keshe isn't demonstrating high proton reactor beam zapping humans into space! Again it's easier for you to judge a book by it's cover without fully understanding the implications of the expirement... ahhhh the true American skeptic way!

What people fail to realize is Keshe pretty much verifies everything Tesla has been working on and this is exciting to many but it was easier for you to comprehend to the simplest form of rationalizing and joined the Keshe is fraud bandwagon. Believe me I understand. Did you just do a Google search on Keshe and found all disinfo that was on the fraud/scam websites? Are you aware the false fraud alerts on those websites was started by a anon guy who had no evidence that he is a fraud?

The claims on Keshe being fraud is false. There hasn't been 1 report of Keshe conning $50,000 from ANYONE. Yes I do admit sending $50k to some isalm guy is indeed weird and anyone stupid to spend that kind of money without any tangible evidence is a moron. Keshe remove that aspect from his website. In fact Keshe never asks anyone to donate or even purchase his book, the only time you'll see Keshe advertising for his book is when he makes references too his book whether you buy it or not he leaves that up too you. Do you honestly think Keshe needs money from you when he's is backed by major organizations?

Have you bothered reading his international patents? No? WOW I'm surprise... When you was the last time you seen a con artist with international patents? lol

What people fail to comprehend is this technology in essence is old, it's been around for awhile. It's ok Keshe easly deals width people ridiculing him as a person because he's from Iran.when instead they should be questioning the contents of this technology, nothing new there. Come back when you have REAL evidence of Keshe being a fraud....
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posted on Apr, 10 2011 @ 11:25 AM
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Come on guy, as human you should have the intelligence to recognize those scam websites are a joke. Anyone can create a user account just easy you can create one here on ATS and spam falsified information, it's an old trick on the web son. You'll notice as you browse through those websites all the scam alerts have been started by the SAME ANON guy, doesn't that strike a red flag for you? I dare you to find 1 official case that Kashe or KasheFoundation has conn ANYONE with selling publications or tickets to the moon. I admit that selling tickets to the moon wasn't the smartest idea, you learn from your mistakes and move on but either than that you have nothing on Keshe except the fact you can ridicule him for the location where he rests his head at night. Get real.



posted on Apr, 10 2011 @ 11:28 PM
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HEH, just because you read a press release online english.farsnews.com...
the original press release, doesn't mean it's true at all. I could post in a press release tomorrow that aliens have invaded america, and make it sound legit, put fake credentials in etc. for $300 US.
I own and operate a conspiracy site, we pay for press releases on UFOs, that defy explanation all the time. and they are usually covered bye 4000 + media outlets, there are constantly misleading story's arising from these types of PR sites. keep an open mind on the subject if iran had this tech, well use your imagination. every major news station on the planet would cover it, it would be front page of every magazine you read including playboy, he would be up there with scientists like Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, Johnny Nocksville
It also says he's changed the theory of relativity basically. iran would have given him Medal of Service, Medal of Research, Medal of Honour, Medal of Merit and Management, he has not recived any of these, he would also be up for the following Comstock Prize in Physics, Dannie Heineman Prize for Astrophysics, Dirac Prize, Nobel Prize in Physics, Lorentz Medal. etc etc etc, the National Academy of Sciences, American Astronomical Society, nasa etc would be all over this.

And this is not the case.
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