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now Must you? first Mossad and now Zionest well thank you for dropping by
You're the one saying I'm comparing all Muslims to the radicals I posted. Never mind that I isolated the terms "Islamist" and "Jihadist"
Not just by Muslim nations, but by citizens and organizations in Western nations. And in some cases, governments themselves.
Originally posted by Phrook
I really didn't want my first post to be on this topic in particular. I am not loyal to Israel, and in general I tend to be apathetic towards goings on in the world, but I have to point out that the statistics of civilian deaths and all that are not overly relevant. I had a cousin who served in the IDF, he was a volounteer from the U.S and his experiences within the West Bank and Gaza were such that its very hard to distinguish who is a civilian and who is going to try to kill you. That aside, a significant amount of conflict over land, and peace and all that is related to The Yom Kippur War in 1973.
For those who don't know in 1973 Israel was attacked by pretty much anyone who shared a border with it. This happened on the holiest day of the year for the Jews (so holy the military was on leave). In any event Israel not only managed to mobilize its army but it held its aggressors at bay and managed to even secure more territory.
My understanding of war is that if a country managed to conquer land in a war (such as when the States too parts of Mexico that are now Texas and other states) that they don't have to give it back. Anyways I am all for peace and love and non violence, but I do kind of feel that anyone, any country has the right (or even the obligation) to defend its territory, and its population no matter the cost.
I hope in my first post i didnt add fuel to a fire, or contravene any of your forums conventions.
Originally posted by Phrook
My understanding of war is that if a country managed to conquer land in a war (such as when the States too parts of Mexico that are now Texas and other states) that they don't have to give it back. Anyways I am all for peace and love and non violence, but I do kind of feel that anyone, any country has the right (or even the obligation) to defend its territory, and its population no matter the cost.
I hope in my first post i didnt add fuel to a fire, or contravene any of your forums conventions.
People like you jump out with an accusatory finger
Ok so everyone in the countries around Israel is a Jihadist, including Western governments? Yeah, nice try.
Not just by Muslim nations, but by citizens and organizations in Western nations. And in some cases, governments themselves.
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by phishyblankwaters
Ok so everyone in the countries around Israel is a Jihadist, including Western governments? Yeah, nice try.
You're unbelievable.
Originally posted by projectvxn
Israel is surrounded by enemies on all sides. This is more true today, with the government of Egypt up for grabs by the Muslim Brotherhood who created Hamas, Israels sworn enemy in Gaza. If the Israelis EVER dropped their guard or showed any weakness at all the pervasive Jihadist culture in the rest of the Middle East would completely consume Israel, and no Israeli Jew would survive it.
Any land gained can only be used for Defensive purposes and cannot be used to root settlements on, which Israel are breaching right now, hence why all homes are considered illegal settlements
it's not my fault if people can't effing read.
Not just by Muslim nations, but by citizens and organizations in Western nations. And in some cases, governments themselves.
The Muslim governments that surround Israel are Jihadist or anti-Jew in general.
The Muslim Brotherhood is a radical Islamic organization with satellite organization operating all over the world. Including Al Qaeda..
If anyone is wondering, this is a perfect example of how these discussions get derailed. Make note of it so you can avoid it in the future.
A question to anyone that Resides in Israel or supports Israel Blindly on faith
But hey, it's all propaganda right? Those darn antisemites in the UN/ NATO/red cross. Oh and the videos of them raining white phosphorus down on children, well, that camera is obviously antisemitic.
Ahh I see how it is. We can use examples from the fringe minority to paint all Muslims as evil, but heaven forbid you do that with Israel right?
I seriously could post hundreds of videos showing Israelis expressing their racism and hatred for all non Jews. Seriously the ultra-orthodox sects in Israel openly state any non jew (this includes converts) are goyim and are cattle to be slaughtered by Jews, the only real humans. It's ok to rape and murder a child, as long as it's not Jewish.
But see, that would defeat the purpose right? Because it would be antisemitic to post those videos right?
The black panthers wanted to kill "whitey" so I guess all black people are evil right?
Never mind that I isolated the terms "Islamist" and "Jihadist"
Did I say in ANY post that Western governments at all are Jihadists? No I did not.
Not just by Muslim nations, but by citizens and organizations in Western nations. And in some cases, governments themselves.
Ok, so you said only Jihadists, but then you said Muslims and western governments ?
But they are severely outnumbered and it is the only country in the Middle East whose existence is regularly threatened. Not just by Muslim nations, but by citizens and organizations in Western nations. And in some cases, governments themselves.
Governments in Western nations HAVE made very telling moves against Israel. Especially through UN actions. Apparently you took that to mean that I was implying that Western nations are Jihadist.
So Jihadists aren't Muslim then? how about The Islamic Republic of Iran? They want Israel destroyed(the government does anyway)...They're not Muslim? They're not 12ers who believe that the destruction of Israel would bring back the Mahdi?