Trump sends investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama !!

reply to post by Sinnthia


Semantics. You know what they want to see and that's what Obama does not want to show..
Simple, no semantics required..

Do carry on..

reply to post by Sinnthia


Same is true with State of Michigan records. Is there any State that keeps long forms?

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Sinnthia

 

Semantics. You know what they want to see and that's what Obama does not want to show..
Simple, no semantics required..

Do carry on..

If you are going to just continue to deflect, either do it better or just own it. I have asked you to back up a claim you made. How many times do I need to ask before you even try?

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by LilDudeissocool

 

> St John Hospital & Medical Center ( Note I have it written as if the hospital belongs to the saint in my last post. I guess I should get with the times.)

backinblack, may I ask why you care about such a clarification regarding that particular specific?

Sure..Listing a hospital on the BC is proof of birth in that state IMO..
Without it then it may have been a home birth and those were accepted and given BCs with minimum proof..
It's said some people even lied about births so they could get instant citizenship..

Only if you use an allies obtaining a BC of someone else.

reply to post by Sinnthia

If you are going to just continue to deflect, either do it better or just own it. I have asked you to back up a claim you made. How many times do I need to ask before you even try?

What claim relevant to the thread would that be ??

Originally posted by backinblack
What claim relevant to the thread would that be ??

So you have been responding deflectively without even fully understanding what you were dodging? I appologize if my expectations that you be able to go back and re-read things you may have missed were a tad high.
Perhaps this will help.

Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by backinblack
You know that is 100% not true..
His family could have organized a BC even if he wasn't born there..FACT..

No, a birther lie - if he was not born there his birth certificate would not show he was born in Hawaii - once again birthers show they are not interested in the truth!

Yes it would mate...

No, it would not. That does not even make any sense. Why would it? That would be completely antithetical to its purpose. That is quite and extrordinary claim you are making. Care to back it up? Could you back it up? Are you basing it on anything or just saying it because you have been told it?

reply to post by Sinnthia


Ahh, but that's been answered many times..
It was quite easy back then especially to get a BC giving the excuse as a home birth with very little proof..

The BC would still show Hawaii but obviously not a hospital etc..

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Sinnthia

 

Ahh, but that's been answered many times..

I do not want answers. I want PROOF.

It was quite easy back then especially to get a BC giving the excuse as a home birth with very little proof..

I asked you to BACK UP your claim, not to repeat it. I got it the first time. That is kind of why I questioned it. You cannot back that claim up.

The BC would still show Hawaii but obviously not a hospital etc..

Oh...because you said so...twice.

I asked you to back it up.

Do birthers understand the difference between proof and repetition?

reply to post by Sinnthia

Do birthers understand the difference between proof and repetition?

I have seen the PROOF posted in many similar threads..
Since you post in all I'm certain you have seen them..

Tell me, how do you think home birthers get a BC ??

BTW, I was a home birth..I've got a BC..

Originally posted by backinblack
I have seen the PROOF posted in many similar threads..

I have not. I would really really like to. Please help me out.

Since you post in all I'm certain you have seen them..

Awwwwe....really? So you have NO PROOF of that claim then? Well, you could just admit that then, right? You are looking for an honest discussion, are you not?

Would you believe me if I made a crazy sounding claim and then told you that the proof is out there, somwhere? Be honest. Do you not want to be honest?

Tell me, how do you think home birthers get a BC ??

Through their state department of vital statistics and the rules actually vary from state to state. Luckily I have read all about these rules for Hawaii at that time. I am not so sure you have done the same.

BTW, I was a home birth..I've got a BC..

I like turtles.

reply to post by Sinnthia


lol, nice tactics but boring...

Carry on the deflections while Obama refuses to show a piece of paper that, if he hasn't lied, shows nothing we don't already know about him..

That about sums it up..
BTW, if it was me I'd have no problems showing it to answer the critics...

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Sinnthia

 

lol, nice tactics but boring...

Please stop using words until you take the time to learn what they actually mean.

Carry on the deflections while Obama refuses to show a piece of paper that, if he hasn't lied, shows nothing we don't already know about him..

All I have done is ask you to back up your claim. You have made it several times and I just want some proof of it. I have seen none. In that, I have had neither the opportunity nor need to deflect. What would I be deflecting from? I am asking you for proof. How do I deflect in asking you for proof, over and over and over and over and over again? Please make some sense.

That about sums it up..
BTW, if it was me I'd have no problems showing it to answer the critics...

That is great. How about showing me proof of your claim about HI BCs.
Please stop making me ask it over and over again. I know you understand what I am writing.

reply to post by Sinnthia


Damn, I thought you'd clocked off..

The main point is proven..
There's simply no denying Obama does not want to show a piece of paper that in his own words, has no information that he hasn't already stated..

Kinda ridiculous don't you think?

Originally posted by backinblack
Kinda ridiculous don't you think?

Certainly is. Now, just back up your claim about HI BCs. That is the only thing I am interested in. Got that, yet?

Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by backinblack
Kinda ridiculous don't you think?

Certainly is. Now, just back up your claim about HI BCs. That is the only thing I am interested in. Got that, yet?

For what earthly purpose??

It's quite simple as I keep saying..

There is NOTHING on his long form that is a secret.
All the details that could possibly be listed on it have already been stated by Obama..

So the only question is why does he not want to release it??

Originally posted by backinblack
For what earthly purpose??

Or don't back up your claim. That is fine. I will then have to point out that it is a lie. It is wrong. It is 100% incorrect in every way. If you keep pushing it without bothering to research it yourself, then it is most certainly deception and not error. If you like using known lies to make your argument, then you make my case about the true lack of sincerity in most "birthers."

It's quite simple as I keep saying..

There is NOTHING on his long form that is a secret.
All the details that could possibly be listed on it have already been stated by Obama..

So the only question is why does he not want to release it??

You are familiar with the word deflection by now I presume? Nothing you are typing, short of the proof I asked for, is getting through. Get that?

reply to post by Sinnthia


lol, claim what you wish..
The FACTS speak for themselves..
Your are conducting a boring circular argument while ignoring the simple fact I have stated..

Carry on, lines=$s....

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Sinnthia

 

lol, claim what you wish..

I have yet to make a claim.

The FACTS speak for themselves..

Then make them facts by providing some proof for them.

Your are conducting a boring circular argument while ignoring the simple fact I have stated..

No, I just keep asking you to prove your ridiculous claim about Hawaii and you keep pretending to not understand what I am asking.

Carry on, lines=$s....

Why would you keep saying something, pretending to believe it, if you cannot even confirm it for yourself?

reply to post by anon72


Expecting to hear trump has died of a heart attack any moment now.

reply to post by Sinnthia

There is NOTHING on his long form that is a secret.
All the details that could possibly be listed on it have already been stated by Obama..

THAT'S the only FACT that matters..
Disprove that and I'll continue to debate..
If you can't then it's game over...