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Strange Dreams, anyone?

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posted on Apr, 6 2011 @ 10:50 PM
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I've been here for a while. Haven't really talked about my dreams. Before I get into the details, I want to make it clear that I was interested in the UFO phenomena in HS, especially when I was a senior. That was about 14 to 15 years ago. Beyond 16 years ago it was only something I thought about when I bumped into something on TV as opposed to something I might have "googled" on a dark lonely night. Once I got out of HS and into college I had pretty much googled a lot of conspiracy sh** about UFOs. Since I was a christian still my conclusion back then was that they were demonic. It took me several years to shed my religious faith and to look at UFOs as a non-demonic manifestation. Fast forward to 2009 about. That year I started to question everything. I started to ask myself whether it really was just hysteria and that, in fact, UFOs were simply BS. I never really believed it, but my mind at least was open to it. Keep in mind that for a long while between about 2002-2009 I had stayed away from learning about UFOs. I had grown sick of them.

So here I am. I've been reading Incident at Exeter by John G. Fuller for fun. I still have a few UFO books back from my younger years when I was interested in it. After going over some things on the net and looking at some books I'm reminded of why I felt the way I did back then. There's so much material. It's so easy to miss it. I stopped reading things and stop researching in 2002 about. I think that my departure from it, partly in disgust at that time, might have been what led to my skepticism in 2009.

The reality is that UFOs are real, but we can't say for sure what they're, but we can say that whatever they're, it's not conventional because if it were then there wouldn't be a long list of unknowns in the blue book archives or elsewhere. They couldn't explain these things as weather balloons, or stars, or swamp gas, or mis-identifications, and so on. That's why they're listed as unknown and there're thousands of examples all over the world. If you seriously and honestly investigate it you will come to the same conclusion that there're indeed unknowns and right now we do not have an explanation for them and we may never find one.

Now, I'd like to admit here that I'm not entirely rationale about this. I'm skipping over a lot of history. In my young adult years I spoke to a lot of people. Some of them told me they had seen UFOs. A few even told me they had seen aliens. A few were tight lipped, but whatever they didn't say I could certainly guess at. I won't go into the details, but lets just say that I knew a long time ago that UFOs were not something you only hear about on TV or in fictional books or in a tabloid magazine. I saw with my own self, in person.

The dreams. I've had some dreams. Couple in family have. I'm 98% sure that they're just dreams. Lucid dreams, to be exact. Or even waking-state dreams. The kind of dreams I'm talking about don't really involve aliens or UFOs. They involve things like: red ball of light outside the bedroom window at night, light shining outside around midnight that makes it appear to be morning, dreaming that you see a figure in front of your bed that fills you with a sense of awe, feeling things touch you while you're helpless to move in bed and feeling a weight pressed on your chest, voices in or outside your room that call your name, floating above your body and seeing it from a distance, a man floating above you looking in your eyes (maybe he's wearing platemail, maybe he's an indian, maybe he's biblical, maybe he's a roman, doesn't matter), you see a bright star up above you outside past midnight that you never forget for some odd reason, and so on....

The strangest dream that I've had has to be the one I had around 2002. I'm guessing. I can't remember the exact date. I think it was during summer. I don't normally dream about aliens. I dream about seeing lights in the sky quite a bit because i've always wanted to see a UFO I just never have. I dream about everything, though. But i can count on my fingers how many times i've seen aliens in my dreams. This is my whole life. So it's rare. Anyway, that did I dream in 2002? All I remember is it was dark and I was outside hte door. I seem to maybe remember walking through the house and all of hte lights were off, but I can't be sure so I'll just say that I remember being outside and it was dark in this dream. I walked alongside the garage and followed the side of the house and went towards a bush on our lawn. Then at this moment I looked over at the field across the road. I saw a egg shaped craft with legs that extended down and rested on the field. I didn't see any bright light, though. My eyes had apparently adjusted? I could see figures moving around in the field. I started to get nervous that they'd notice me. Then I seemed to think they had and..... that's all I remember from the dream.

The thing that makes it even stranger is a friend staying at the house the next day told me about light he had seen in the room at night that he couldn't explain. I didn't tell him about my dream because I just thought it was a dream and also because I didn't want to prove to him that I was making fantasy. I told him it was just a light from a nearby driveway, it must have been a car. I said maybe it was a spotlight from one of the boats because I've seen those before. I don't remember him being too convinced, and the issue completely died. Again, I never told him about the dream that I had the exact very same night. I have kept it to myself all these years later because I still think it was a dream. What do you think?

I had a lucid dream a few years ago too. This one I am 99% sure was completely a normal lucid dream. But a few strange things. First of all, I remember the dream that I was having before it happened. I was running around with a brunete in a forest and she seemed to be taking me somewhere. Then the dream ended and I saw an image in my head. I was half lucid. The image was clear. I saw several greys. 3 or 4. Stocky kind of and they reminded me of males becaue they were so robotic looking and their heads were big and almost bumpy. Their eyes almost seemed squarish to me, but they were the typical eyes you see in television. They kind of looked like that alien in the BS video that was supposedly stolen from area 51. It's named Alien Interview or something. The reason I mention this is not because I think that video is genuine (IT'S NOT... at least Victor is a total BS artist for sure). It's only because they kind of looked like that. Standing kind of in the middle of them was a taller creature. It reminded me of a she. There was barely any hair on her head. The color wasn't dark. Her head was more sloped than the "males". She seemed more human to me. She was waving at me. I don't remember any uniforms. Then I remember seeing my room and hearing beeping. It happened cyclical. It was accompanied by a whirring sound. It got louder and louder until it seemed like it was just outside the room. Next thing I can remember is being on my bed crouched kind of halfawake and I could still faintly hear the beeping and whirring until it was gone. I seem to remember thinking "that's weird". Then I just fell back to sleep. I still think that was a dream because I can remember a dream preceding it and also because I have many lucid dreams and it did not surprise only in that it involved aliens.

Another strange thing is that that dream and another lucid dream I had both happened during a power outage. This post may make me seem like I think i'm an abductee or something, but that's not the truth. I think they're lucid dreams. When I was younger I researched UFOs like a rabid dog before getting sick of it and just acting like none of it existed. So I enver entered into any of this with a clean slate. I was already corrupted. I had even spoke with a guy who had told me about seeing aliens so I cannot trust anything in my mind until I see something fully lucid, fully awake. Far as I'm concerned, me and a couple of my relatives just have active imaginations and a sleep paralysis disorder or something.

Thanks for reading. Hopefully you can share your own strange dreams.
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posted on Apr, 6 2011 @ 11:40 PM
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Wow, so funny you asked that. The past month I've been getting them seriously everyday. Last night I slept 12 hours hard without waking up and the dream was so real. The ship wasn't circular at all and was quite beautiful. But oddly I was a lesbian in the dream and with my old best friend from high school hah I have no idea but anyways, it probably didn't help my 70 year old neighbor flipped out about a UFO 100 meters or so over my house last month or so that appeared twice a week apart around 4am. Its wild cause I only see him gardening and walking his dogs out. Very nice uptight elderly couple. I hope to God he is delusional..I've been sleeping very heavily this month with extremely deep vivid dreams to where I wake up clueless of where I am. Bahh...So much for sleeping tonight! |o.0|



posted on Apr, 6 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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Oh and I've also had extraterrestrial dreams like 15 times this month lol



posted on Apr, 6 2011 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by innervision0730
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Oh and I've also had extraterrestrial dreams like 15 times this month lol
I think I'm fantasy prone. But more than that, I think it's a disorder of some kind. Sleep paralysis might be genetic. I do have a lot of dreams where I see lights in the sky. But like I said, I rarely dream about aliens. Dreams are fun as heck though. So much can happen. They're a hidden world. My personal opinion is that dreams train us for potential realities. It's a defense mechanism, I think, that evolved to supplement reality. So that one day when a similar situation happens that happened in the dream, maybe we'll be better prepared for it.

And from reading your posts, you should be ready for when they land to pick you up

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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 12:08 AM
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I had a dream a couple nights ago that millions of people were merging back into the "One."

I didnt see death and tragedy, but a previous dream had showed me that death was at least one way to merge back into the One, and so I certainly took it to mean that millions of people were going to die soon.

Also, "god" or the "universal mind" or "The ALL" whatever you want to call it was showing me in a very gentle and peaceful way all the millions of people merging back into the One and the message I got was "its ok, dont be too freaked out, you know they are coming back to bliss," but not in those words, just the general idea was being put in my head.

And of course that freaked me out more. When God sends you a dream saying "dont let this freak you out" you just get the feeling something that is going to freak you out is about to happen.

Just my two cents.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 01:02 AM
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IMHO there is actually a pretty good explanation for this.

There are theories that dreaming is a survival mechanism, your mind while in an unconscious state prepares for threats it might encounter while awake. Ancient man would have maybe dreamed about a sabre tooth tiger attack, and possibly if it ever occurred he would be better prepared for it cognitively and quicker to react, ensuring his survival and the guy beside him who didn't dream the attack took that split second having to figure it out in his head, and died never to proliferate his genes.

Now as go further into the future and discover the wonders of technology and all these new threats like aliens, nuclear destruction and air plane crashes, our dreams may get a bit weirder or more vivid in our subconscious attempt to understand these new concepts and their threats. Assuming you didn't actually get abducted, and your dreams roughly correspond with your increase in research on UFOs and extraterrestrials, your mind may be simply trying to account and prepare for any possible threats based on the knowledge you have accumulated. While you are awake at night, reading about different abduction stories you probably feel some deep sense of fear (which is normal considering the subject), this fear may register in your subconscious and is 'accessed' while you are in a dream state.

In other words dreams are a threat simulation:
Branchanida.com

Here's a good article about the history of the study of dreaming, the theory above is included:
NYTimes.com

This is a whole book on it, a lot of information here and it may be a bit boring, but it's linked directly to the part I'm talking about:
Google Books



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 01:08 AM
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Weird, I've actually had a couple dreams recently. One is very vague but about a ufo. The other was about my two nephews getting taken away and then brought back later. It was very weird and it's one of those weird dreams that sticks in your head forever.

Could be because I check up on this stuff every day
but still I rarely have dreams about them.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:12 AM
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I have regular dreams about UFOs, they always seem to be spacecraft at first, but eventually I discover that there was a more down to earth explanation. Although once I watched a UFO crash and it ended up being the Starship Enterprise!



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:06 AM
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When i was 15, i saw a ufo. Thats when the dreams started. Last night i dreamt i had been in the caribbean,on the beach,just came back from fishing. I was in a bay with an hour glass opening. Then i saw the wave coming. Been having a bad feeling about the puerto rico trench for a month or so.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by RSF77
IMHO there is actually a pretty good explanation for this.

There are theories that dreaming is a survival mechanism, your mind while in an unconscious state prepares for threats it might encounter while awake. Ancient man would have maybe dreamed about a sabre tooth tiger attack, and possibly if it ever occurred he would be better prepared for it cognitively and quicker to react, ensuring his survival and the guy beside him who didn't dream the attack took that split second having to figure it out in his head, and died never to proliferate his genes.
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I agree with this. It just makes sense that evolution would use dreaming to its advantage.

UFOs are on the public mind as a threat and an interest so it makes sense we'd dream about them. Ever had a dream where something was trying to kill you? Or you're lost somewhere?

I've always felt that because we think dreams are real as they happen that they're important.
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by MrAndy
I have regular dreams about UFOs, they always seem to be spacecraft at first, but eventually I discover that there was a more down to earth explanation. Although once I watched a UFO crash and it ended up being the Starship Enterprise!
I like star trek. Not a trekkie, but I'd love to have Data as a personal assistant.

Off the top of my head I can't remember any dreams about star trek. I think that's because I never became obsessed in learning about it. For a year or two I was obsessed with UFOs.

There's a lot of stuff out there to fuel dreams. Know what I mean?
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by jacobish
Weird, I've actually had a couple dreams recently. One is very vague but about a ufo. The other was about my two nephews getting taken away and then brought back later. It was very weird and it's one of those weird dreams that sticks in your head forever.

Could be because I check up on this stuff every day
but still I rarely have dreams about them.
Always that in the back of your mind you're wondering what's out there. Something is. Just because we don't open the door or can't open it, doesn't mean nothing is behind it.

I think a lot has fueled my imagination. I knew people who had seen UFOs. A few had seen aliens. If I had never been interested in the topic, I probably would never know about them. My grandfather saw what he thought was an oblong spaceship maybe 2 decades ago. I remember doubting him and thinking it was just a semi-truck crossing the bridge or maybe a plane from the nearby airstrip. But still, you never know. I know something is out there flying in the skies. It could be people playing a practical joke or it could be a previously unknown psychological or natural anomaly. But one thing is for sure and I feel strongly. That's that whatever it's, it's not conventional. If it were, there wouldn't be a long list of unknowns when you look through history.

Like I say me and a couple in my family have strong dreams. Even lucid dreams. I had them far back as a kid. So I know I'm already susceptible to this. And that was long before I ever knew about UFOs. In one lucid dream as a kid I peed on my carpet in full view of my brother. That's called sleep walking. In another I woke up screaming because I was looking in the hallway and saw a ghost. Literally, it was a person or something with a white cover covering it just like ghosts in cartoons. I told everyone back then that I sleeped with my eyes open. I didn't just say that. I had a lot of lucid dreams. Many of those dreams have stayed with me. I'll never forget them.

So you can understand while I'm interested in UFOs I think it's 98% or 99% probability that these few dreams that're suggestive are nothing more than that. But like I already said in this post, no matter how convinced you become about it, there's always that nagging feeling in the back of your mind that wonders. Am I right? Should I retrace? Naw, it was just a dream! Not 100%.
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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Okay that´s weird. I also heard a loud beeping sound when i had my "experience". I counted 7 beeps before i woke up. The number 7 is very important but i didn´t figured out why. I´m still waiting for the second half of my vision. The suspense is killing me. I think i´m going to make my own thread about it. I can´t really talk with my friends or family about it.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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Well, sorry I didn't mean to sound like I was trying to debunk you or anything, just trying to give a scientific perspective on it in case anyone is curious. I don't think that makes them any less important, probably more important really.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Not to step out and say"Hey you're wrong," however I think there is a much better explanation than all this survival mechanism hooey. People simply try to attatch meaning to dreams and give them purpose. Such as survival mechanisms or random gibberish from the unconscious. Fact of the matter is it's just our brain creating reality as it would if we were awake, except for the fact we can do whatever we want in this state and it is where our unconscious rules supreme. I wouldn't say that dreams do not amount to anything in the long run, but then again I would not say that they always signify something. It's like rolling around with all the hubris of daily life/thoughts in endlessly jumbled up/randomized scenarios. Until we get to the very deep dream states, however that is just speculation. Some people refer to this as "soul flight".



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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The last couple of weeks i have dreams about aliens.There are from 3 different races and they all are sitting in my bedroom,which in the dream is much bigger.They try to tell me something but i cannot hear their voice,i can only see the lips moving.It seems that what they want to tell me it's important.

I have a long history with dreams with aliens,UFOs,other planets and space,even before i start reading about this stuff.I dare to say that the dreams came first and they triggered my interest in the topic.Also the aliens i see are nothing like the ones we see in movies and read about(greys,reptilians,insectoids,nordics etc).

I don't know maybe overactive imagination is a convenient answer but i use it a lot.Maybe i should write a book or a movie script and become rich, as a member here on ATS suggested



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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hey i just sighned up here like a week ago been posting on other forums but i need to put my 2cents in this thread. i hardly ever remember my dreams and am a very light sleeper. few days ago i had a dream where i was with my old lady in the city(we live in Rhode island so providence) she was going to class which is weird cause she dose not go to any college in the city. when she left i looked around me and realized that i was in the company of a very strange cast of people i knew from when i was a little kid a young teenager some faces i didnt know. I remember picking out an old friend i do tend to see @ local metal concerts at least ounce a month. we started to talk then i remember hearing a very loud wooshing noise. not really an explosion but a woosh. i looked all around as people were doing the same and then looking into the sky i saw cloud rings going up and up and up into the sky on and on ring after ring going up and up. the wooshing came back and a wind started to blow. then i woke up
im a light sleeper and prolby moved my body for real while dreaming of moving. i dont know what to make of it and its stuck with me for a while. i didnt read other people replys yet but i bet there as interesting strange times make for strange dreams....



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Yeah, I could write a book with my insanely awesome dreams
I don't know about a disorder on the sleep though. It just started this month. Beforehand, I usually only get about 6 hours but it's been nice while its been here. Ha yeah I'm still waiting. If I have to die, I would want to go that way..in an extraterrestrial ship.



posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by RSF77
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Well, sorry I didn't mean to sound like I was trying to debunk you or anything, just trying to give a scientific perspective on it in case anyone is curious. I don't think that makes them any less important, probably more important really.
Re-read my post. I absolutely agree. I've been thinking exactly the same thing for a few months or more lately. In fact, that was what I found so weird about your post. But ultimately this is a separate issue from whether or not the strangest dreams are based on any kind of reality. I think there's a 1% chance or less that they're based on reality. That's another reason I posted I wnated to see if there was any kind of commonality that I could link with my strangest dreams. But on the point of dreams teaching us things, you betcha I agree 100%.

Too many people think dreams mean nothing but the reason, often enough from my perspective, is that they don't remember them. Almost every dream I can remember ever having could teach me something about my life or the life around me. There's almost always some kind of lesson. It's not something that's intended to be a lesson like a classroom, but more like a lesson you learn from just normal activities, except that in this case the activities take place in a dream.
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Upthepunx
hey i just sighned up here like a week ago been posting on other forums but i need to put my 2cents in this thread. i hardly ever remember my dreams and am a very light sleeper. few days ago i had a dream where i was with my old lady in the city(we live in Rhode island so providence) she was going to class which is weird cause she dose not go to any college in the city. when she left i looked around me and realized that i was in the company of a very strange cast of people i knew from when i was a little kid a young teenager some faces i didnt know. I remember picking out an old friend i do tend to see @ local metal concerts at least ounce a month. we started to talk then i remember hearing a very loud wooshing noise. not really an explosion but a woosh. i looked all around as people were doing the same and then looking into the sky i saw cloud rings going up and up and up into the sky on and on ring after ring going up and up. the wooshing came back and a wind started to blow. then i woke up
im a light sleeper and prolby moved my body for real while dreaming of moving. i dont know what to make of it and its stuck with me for a while. i didnt read other people replys yet but i bet there as interesting strange times make for strange dreams....
The whooshing sound reminds me of some things I've heard when I'm half-lucid. I get this electrical feeling in my body and I can 'hear' it. I can't move in that state. It feels loud more than it IS loud, but that doesn't mean it's not loud. Hard to explain.

Some people do report whooshing sounds with OBEs. I've never had an out of body experience, but my sister has. In one case I was half-asleep on the parking lot near a mall in hte backseat. It was night. The strange thing about this was I was that an image popped into my head and I was above hte parking lot looking down. Everything seemed to look the way it should. I never saw my body or felt myself separate or anything like that. Then I woke up. I never heard any sounds. It just happened. It didn't seem like an OBE, but I'm not sure what those are supposed to be like.

And one other thing I should mention is that in one case after I woke up I could hear a ringing in my ear for about an hour that had started with the lucid dream. It was not a normal ring. It's very heard to explain. I've never had that happen before or since.

I think an easier way for me to explain the 'sound' is to go into a quiet room at night and listen to your mind. You can faintly hear something. It's almost like a ring. Magnify that. That's what I heard in my ear and it's very similar to what I hear and feel in some lucid dreams.

One last thing.. I've heard that if you're asleep and someone says your name you almost always will wake up. Has anyone confirmed this? In my experience it seems to be close to the truth.
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